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Jt1
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Post Number: 6721
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 1:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.theoaklandpress.com /stories/021406/loc_2006021403 .shtml

Detroit leads in housing permits

Starts fair enough but I love how it ends:


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Detroit issued 935 units in 2004, while Oakland County had 4,533 new units in 2005, versus 6,465 in 2004.




Why no mention of the fact that Detroit is 139 Square Miles and OC is 873 square miles.

Nothing like comparing apples and oranges to downplay Detroit's positive housing starts.
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Jt1
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 1:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And more from local areas.

http://www.macombdaily.com/sto ries/021406/loc_wrnpox001.shtm l

Despite millage, city may cut cops
Warren officials debate whether to fill vacancies after recent retirements

Is there going to be a dent in 'Fortress Warren.' I requested Steenbergh to authorize that I be allowed in Warren from Detroit. I still have not heard back if I am part of the group that the fortress needs to keep out.
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Skulker
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Post Number: 3532
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 2:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1035 divided by 138 = 7.5 housing permits per square mile in 2005 for Detroit.

4533 divided by 873 = 5.19 housing permits per square mile in 2005 for Oakland County.
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Detroitduo
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Post Number: 498
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 2:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Math is FUN!
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Dialh4hipster
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Post Number: 1427
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 2:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I may be so bold as to ask ...

So?
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Jt1
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Post Number: 6728
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 2:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No reason - just strikes me as funny when housing starts, job numbers, businesses, etc compare only Detroit and OC although we live in a sprawl region and their land mass is more than 6 times Detroit.

The Detroit News had an op-ed piece stating that the AA-Detroit mass transit line is a waste of money. They showed current population and expected. The groups were by county except Wayen was Wayne minus Detroit and Detroit was shown on its own. At first glance it gave the impression that OC will be the most populated county.

Just spin to paint a picture that isn;t completely accurate.

So why is a city always compared to a county.
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Track75
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 2:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sheesh, Jt, if they compared Oakland to Wayne housing permits and didn't mention Detroit's good showing you'd probably go off on that perceived slight. Oakland's population is what, about 1.2 MM, and Detroit's is around 900K so there's a natural basis for a rough comparison. At least that's the way I took it.
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Jt1
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Post Number: 6734
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 2:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We live in a sprawl region. Equating land mass is much more telling than equating population.

What brought this about was that I showed the Freep article to a co-worker that is a constant Detroit basher. He came back with the oakland Press article citing how OC is seeing so much more growth.

Metro Detroit rarely builds vertical so total square mileage is a much better indicator.
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Taj920
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Post Number: 86
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 9:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spin? I think the reporter pointed out that housing starts in OC declined from 2004 to 2005 and increased in Detroit.
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Naturalsister
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Post Number: 479
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come on Taj920!!!

later - naturalsister
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Mackinaw
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Post Number: 1200
Registered: 02-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2006 - 10:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do permits for additions and renovations of pre-existing structures count in Detroit's total new building permits for 2005?
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Jerome81
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Post Number: 914
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 2:16 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An AA to Detroit rail line might change that projected population movement.

Amazes me that so many people don't see transit/roadways as a CAUSE of where people choose to live and work and not so much a result.

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