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Wilus1mj
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Super_d
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and the problem is.......?

super d(motordetroit)
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Atl_runner
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 1:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, no problem there. Black americans have always liked to attend their own schools.. Morehouse College, Tuskegee University.. and a bunch more.

Rock on charters.
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Eric_c
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 1:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting...not more than an hour ago a customer told me that he pulled his kids out of Redford H.S. and moved to Ann Arbor in the mid- seventies when DPS started integrating.

I asked him specifically what happened to prompt him to abandon his home of more than forty years. His answer was, "Nothing, but I wasn't going to wait around to find out what would."

I was very happy to take his dirty money.

Interestingly, one daughter moved to Boston, the other to Chicago. Good job, Dad!
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Danny
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 4:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You should see what's going on at East Detroit High School at Gratiot Ave. and 9 mile Rd. The black population over there is over 35%, most of them came from Detroit. Even though they don't live at the East Detroit(Eastpointe)/ Warren Consolidated School District. The School Board will continue to review those black students and their parents and guardians. For 2 years ago lot's of blacks who attend at East Detroit High School got kicked out for they were not living within the district.

(Message edited by danny on February 16, 2006)
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 7:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are a few areas that one could argue where it makes sense to divide along culturally or ethnic lines to preserve ones culture. Personally, I don't believe primary schools should be one of those areas, especially considering that a major part of school is suppossed to be preparing one for the real world, where things are rarely clear-cut, either/or situations. Dividing schools along gender lines have shown themselves to be no better than co-ed, and I think it's pretty well shown that segregating primary schools along race does little to fully enrich the student be they Black, White, or otherwise. Segregated schools didn't work during Reconstruction, and they aren't working much, now, IMO. I'm sure quite a few are going to parade out a few good examples, but the state of education in general, in this country for those urban areas is pretty bad, and this doesn't help.
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Jenniferl
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 2:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The article confirms what I have suspected all along as far as charter schools are concerned. Look at Ferndale. The public schools are somewhat integrated since the district includes Royal Oak Township and parts of Oak Park. (Plus, Ferndale itself has some black residents.) But the Edison charter school on Woodward south of 9 Mile is all black. I've never seen any non-black kids there or at any other charter school.

For those interested in school segregation in the 21st century, I highly recommend Jonathan Kozol's new book "Shame of the Nation."
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Danny
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Post Number: 3723
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 9:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's break this down for Detroit Public Schools vs. Suburban Schools:

Suburban Schools: excellent extra-cirricular activities, clean hallways, mostly white and ethnic kids, good teachers, fine PTA Meetings, most of them have college-prep courses. Most of the students score very well on their SAT, MEAP texts, fine schools lunches full of junk food.

Detroit Public Schools: unqualified teachers, metal detectors in every high schools, graffiti everywhere, dirty bathrooms with little or no sanitation, gang fights, shootings, better school lunch programs with mostly soul food, 80% African centered eduction, a very poor special education program. little or no PTA Meetings, but school board meetings are sometimes a no show, mostly black kids with little and no future ahead of them due to their peers in the ghettos, not enough college prep courses, so most of students will be ill prepared for college, lowest MEAP, SAT's and ACT scores in Michigan history, so DPS will get smaller grants.

Include that in the Shame of our Race.
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Bob
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 3:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unqualified teachers is something no public school can have any more because of No Child Left Behind. Each teacher has to meet certain criteria, this even trumps tenure laws. Teachers who are no qualified will have to either get the qualification, or the school district loses funding.

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