Romanized Member Username: Romanized
Post Number: 187 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 71.4.97.70
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 2:47 pm: | |
In regards to the zoo issue. "This is not a plantation," Collins said. "We are not owned by everybody else. Black folks aren't owned by white folks any more." I guess this is her little way of sticking it to the man. Maybe. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6800 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 2:50 pm: | |
Way to play the stupid race card Collins. What a fucking ridiculous statement. I am certain she is not speaking on my behalf. |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 9896 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 2:56 pm: | |
That's my city council....YAY! |
Gogo Member Username: Gogo
Post Number: 1246 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 2:58 pm: | |
Collins_MB@cncl.ci.detroit.mi. us |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6803 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 2:59 pm: | |
Beat me to it gogo. I just went to post it. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2312 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.228.0.238
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:18 pm: | |
This latest zoo fiasco (and the rhetoric behind it) is yet another example of why you won't see a Belle Isle Conservancy, regional mass transit, etc. anytime soon. |
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan
Post Number: 258 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 141.217.84.59
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:20 pm: | |
Why didn't Barbara just yell "HEY LOOK OVER THERE" and run out of the room when everyone had their backs turned? |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:25 pm: | |
The phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face" keeps coming to my mind. |
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986
Post Number: 51 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 67.175.251.236
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:30 pm: | |
would it be too much to email her explaining how offended your are? or is it worthless. I am tierd of her using the race card for everything. |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 525 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 141.217.44.203
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:32 pm: | |
Where is the quote from? |
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander
Post Number: 1620 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:38 pm: | |
Freep or News article in todays paper. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 182 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 68.2.191.57
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:42 pm: | |
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20060220/UPDAT E/602200399 |
Wazootyman Member Username: Wazootyman
Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.75.220.9
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:53 pm: | |
Everytime something like this comes out, loving the City of Detroit gets a little bit more difficult. This whole zoo issue has soured my mood for the afternoon. Perhaps this is why my parents' generation gave up on the city. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6806 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:02 pm: | |
quote:Perhaps this is why my parents' generation gave up on the city.
Perhaps the city can't support the zoo because your parents' generation gave up on the city. |
Dsmith Member Username: Dsmith
Post Number: 89 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 68.41.202.23
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:22 pm: | |
How is a non-black supposed to respond to a comment like that? |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 9897 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:23 pm: | |
I would like to say two things. First off, in regards to the zoo I would like to say: TEAR THAT SCHITT DOWN, SET THE ANIMALS FREE! In regards to BRC's comments, I would like to add: KILL WHITEY! |
Alsodave Member Username: Alsodave
Post Number: 706 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.221.65.46
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:23 pm: | |
Hear, hear to Jt1 |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6809 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:25 pm: | |
DSmith - I am white and I think it was a completely ignorant statement. Ignorance should not be hidden by color. Every group of race, ethnicity, religious denomination, sexual orientation have their fair share of idiots. We just happen to have some fools that are supposed to be representing us on city council. |
Blondy Member Username: Blondy
Post Number: 967 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.173.138
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:28 pm: | |
Did anyone send her an email asking her to explain her decision and her quote?????????? Don't just sit on a forum and bitch about this one people, LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD! |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6810 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:28 pm: | |
Yes, I did. Just not expecting any response. |
Wazootyman Member Username: Wazootyman
Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.75.220.9
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:31 pm: | |
Good point. But I will say this: When I speak with my dad about how much I enjoy the city and how much improvement I see downtown, I can hear a lot of frusteration in his response. He worked downtown for about 30 years. Since I'm only 24, my experiences in the city have been relatively limited (in the last 5 years or so), during a time period where things really began to clean themselves up. It's easy to get overly optimistic. The city council seems to be acting very childishly about this matter. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that there is more to it than the paper presents, however, the race comment is just stupid. Absolutely stupid. Why is cooperation so hard for this region to grasp onto? That's a hefty question, I know. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6811 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:34 pm: | |
Fair point - I just wanted to point out that much of the issues the city faces has to do with declining tax bases, ridiculous pensions and salary programs that all started in the 50s. The 'they ruined Detroit' argument is a load of hooey. Race comment - you are correct, stupid.
quote:Why is cooperation so hard for this region to grasp onto? That's a hefty question, I know.
I, and most on this forum have been wondering that for a long time. Fault lies on both sides and both sides act vindicative at the expense of the citizens of SE Michigan. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 524 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 68.250.41.46
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
I emailed her too |
Romanized Member Username: Romanized
Post Number: 188 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 71.4.97.70
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:40 pm: | |
"How is a non-black supposed to respond to a comment like that?" As a black person I can say, "Sure as hell beats me." I'd ignore it. |
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 434 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:52 pm: | |
That's so sad. Well... only 3 3/4 years of these people left. |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 301 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 5:33 pm: | |
Rather than looking at it as a racist statement, I look at it as a very immature statement. The lady talks as a child. |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 3136 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.160.138.107
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 5:38 pm: | |
Supersport closing in on 10,000 posts and "Ax a donkey" on this thread. Some families like a zoo and probably will never get to see these animals in Africa or India or in some jungle. Supersport owes everybody an apology for his ignorance. Stop axing a donkey, Sporty. jjaba. |
Pjazz Member Username: Pjazz
Post Number: 21 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.212.63.169
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 6:41 pm: | |
I'd like to say unbeleivable, but councils almost predictable. You'd think when KK got re elected council would try stand behind him. They said in the news other than California and the national zoo no other citys run Zoo operations. Who were the two who voted for proposal? |
Hutt Member Username: Hutt
Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 64.136.49.225
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 6:41 pm: | |
I don't understand what this woman is even talking about. How does her statement relate even a little regarding the Zoo issue? It's not her... It's me. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6816 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 6:57 pm: | |
Pjazz - Both Cockrels. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 719 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.7.222
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 7:12 pm: | |
They were just on Channel 4 complaining that they've been getting bombarded with e-mails from the suburbs, that's where it seemed to come from (or where Channel 4 edited it to come from...Channel 10 should have the entire painful discussion starting in a couple minutes). They even then showed a white lady showing BRC her license to prove that she's a Detroiter pissed about the zoo closing. In other pathetic hilarity, Monica Conyers appeared to call either Kilpatrick or the Mayor's Council liason, Kandia Milton "Boo Boo the Fool." |
Maryellen22471 Member Username: Maryellen22471
Post Number: 31 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 9:32 pm: | |
did anyone check the viewers opinions on Channel 7's website? One post I swear said CC was made up of N's and N lovers. I called them and complained. |
Hardhat Member Username: Hardhat
Post Number: 99 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.209.133.64
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 9:56 pm: | |
I interrupt this discussion to point out that "Jjaba" and "Hutt" are both on the same thread... |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2319 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 9:59 pm: | |
So is CC implying that ("Real") Detroiters don't watch the news and have access to computers? |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 721 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.233.7.222
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 10:06 pm: | |
No, I think they're implying that "real" Detroiters don't care about the zoo closing as much as the suburbanites do. |
Drm Member Username: Drm
Post Number: 871 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 207.215.1.194
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:01 pm: | |
In context: quote:Collins said, "The symbolism is that Detroit is a black city and that we’re unable to govern ourselves. So we need an overseer, the state legislature, or what have you, to step in and tell us what we must do and how to do it." She said she will not sign off on an operating agreement until it protects Detroit’s interests and the state should not try to force them with a funding deadline. "That is a racist attitude. I resent it very much. I’m trying not to let it color my judgments, but we’re not a plantation, blacks aren’t owned by white folks anymore," said Collins.
http://detnow.com/wxyz/nw_loca l_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_159 24_4482423,00.html |
Neilr Member Username: Neilr
Post Number: 189 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.242.215.65
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:24 pm: | |
In my mind, I'm not sure if the majority of the Council made the best decision or not to insure the long-term best interests of the Zoo and the City. If at all possible, the Zoo should stay open. In an ideal world, we Detroiters should just pay the bills and continue to welcome visitors. But this is not an ideal world; when people left Detroit, they took the tax base with them. Their tax dollars no longer are available to support our "jewels." It's a good thing to donate to a "Save the Zoo" fund; but nothing beats a good, old-fashioned, healthy tax base. I do not agree with Barbara Rose Collins assessment; but anyone who has followed her career over the last 30 years knows she says lots of outrageous things. That's her style. And frequently, there's some merit in what she says. Finally, Supersport, I found your comments about Barbara Rose Collins on this thread to be out of line. Perhaps your intent may have been an attempt at humor; but I, for one, did not laugh. |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 1296 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 72.25.177.194
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:29 pm: | |
Wazootyman said: "Perhaps this is why my parents' generation gave up on the city." Some answers lie in the book "Quotations of Coleman Young" as he gleefully tried to drive the nails into the coffin of Detroit's future. Hopefully he failed. However, curmugeons survive: Supersport said: "TEAR THAT SCHITT DOWN, SET THE ANIMALS FREE!" and "KILL WHITEY!" Perhaps these are reasons why your parents' generation gave up on the city. Please have your parents check out "Detroit Issues - Packard Plant" and see if it brings back some memories before they left. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 3207 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:29 pm: | |
Thanks for the context. Unfortunately, one racist attitude (precieved, if even reality) does not justify another. I'm tired of this view on both sides, in Metro Detroit, that each municipality will hold onto anything, if even it is making them sick, as long as it doesn't go to them. I'm tired of this perpetual boogeyman lurking around each sides corner. This paranoia, this mental illness is killing any hopes of regionalism. I liken it to two separate individuals being in a hospital, but hell-bent on not letting them treat the patients. It's suicide, and it's self-defeating. |
Moreta
Member Username: Moreta
Post Number: 179 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 209.131.7.68
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:32 pm: | |
Comments like this one were why I never felt the city council represented me at all when I was a Detroit resident. If you're going to characterize the city as a black city, populated entirely by black people, don't be surprised when non-blacks feel ignored. I didn't move because of the racist attitude displayed constantly in city governance, but it sure didn't make me eager to stay. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6817 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.158.100.106
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:34 pm: | |
quote:Wazootyman said: "Perhaps this is why my parents' generation gave up on the city." Some answers lie in the book "Quotations of Coleman Young" as he gleefully tried to drive the nails into the coffin of Detroit's future.
Please elaborate. |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 1297 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 72.25.177.194
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:50 pm: | |
Jt1 - before I elaborate, have you read the book? |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 1175 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.49.239
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 11:58 pm: | |
Oh boy, you knew this was coming too, Karl decides to chime in on race in Detroit! Karl, please stick to your rememberances of old Detroit and leave the rest of the site alone. I've read the book and don't see what you saw. He wasn't trying to drive the nails into the coffin, he was trying to pull out the ones all the white folks were putting in. |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 1298 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 72.25.177.194
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:09 am: | |
Bvos, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. You are entitled to your opinion, and I to mine. You saw something one way, I another. A matter of opinion, and such is this forum. Discourse is more important than agreement, so why don't you try being quiet and listen? You might learn something. |
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan
Post Number: 259 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:27 am: | |
Barbara Rose Collins will happily respond to all of your angry e-mails personally, AFTER she gets her brand new $2000 wireless taxpayer-funded laptop from the city IT department. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 3208 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:35 am: | |
The nail was driven into Detorit's coffin long before Coleman took office. But, Karl and other's love to drag out the old strawman. I mean, after all, it is easy to drag Coleman out from the grave and continually demonize him. It takes all of the attention off of the other side of the argument. You know, the one that shows that a significant amount of former White Detroiter's left their city in drove out of pure, illogical hysteria never to look back until it got too bad to use it as an excuse as to why they left. Where are you guys getting this from? http://www.stormfront.org/whit ehistory/? Seriously, it's those little tit-for-tat games that's really getting old. And some here feel completely comfortable with perpetuating this crap, too. As bad as Collins is, it never surprises me that she is effective in pulling out her polar opposites, even here on this forum. |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 1178 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.49.239
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:47 am: | |
Here, here to LMichigan. And Karl, if you haven't noticed, I do a lot of listening. I read this site regularly, but rarely chime in. When I do it's to make a real contribution. I've really enjoyed your postings on the Packard plant, especially since I work near there and drive by it on my way to work every morning. It really brings the place to life thinking about how vital of a neighborhood it used to be. However your opinions on race, especially concerning Detroit, are as old as you are and need to be put to rest. It's time to recognize a new Detroit, one that can't be bogged down with the shit that we've gotten ourselves mired in. Yes, Coleman played the race card every now and then and he really didn't seem to have the best interest of real Detroiters in mind the last term or two, but he played the race card far less than his white, suburban counterparts such as Hubbard, LBP, etc. |
Cmubryan Member Username: Cmubryan
Post Number: 217 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:06 am: | |
What if the situation was reversed? Just imagine if any political person said that their city is a White city and they need to look out for the Whites. Their political career would be somewhat over but in Detroit its par for the course. |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 1300 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 72.25.177.194
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:09 am: | |
Lmich, of course the exodus began far earlier. Simply reading that Detroit citizens who had decent jobs were rioting in 1967 would have been reason enough to head for the 'burbs - but in the aftermath & crossroads of those tragic times, Coleman Young took office - for 20+ years. Anyone in office that long either takes a city forward or back - no standing still. BTW, when one is trying to raise kids in a safe environment and with good educations, if that isn't available they seek those things elsewhere. I would hardly call those moving out of Detroit acting in "pure, illogical hysteria" - I knew many folks who loved Detroit, without kids, who stayed so long that in the end, they literally gave their homes away - at certain times, there was no market of any sort for good, solid homes in the city. Sorry if you think this history is "tit-for-tat" and if you truly think recounting some of this history is "perpetuating this crap" then ignore it. I suggest that recognizing past problems clearly, and immediately zeroing in on current similar problems (Collins?) might help deal with same more quickly, efficiently, and in a unbiased way. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6819 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.158.100.4
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:15 am: | |
Karl - PLease explain the hundreds of thousands of white people that left prior to 67. Your revisionist history is not rooted in fact. 700,000 white people fled from 1950-1970 with no appreciable increase in the years of 67-70. Please deal in facts not your versions of them. |
Tndetroiter Member Username: Tndetroiter
Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 24.158.164.229
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 1:40 am: | |
700,000 hadn't left by 1970. The city's population was 1.9 million in the 1950s. It was 1.2 million in 1980. 700,000 had left by 1980, and the rate of flight did increase after the '67 riots. |
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl
Post Number: 241 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 4.229.57.119
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 2:37 am: | |
As of the 1990s, there were still more white people living in Detroit than in any other city in Michigan. Detroit also has a growing Hispanic population as well as residents from various Asian and Middle Eastern countries. Yes, the majority of Detroiters are black, but the city council is supposed to represent everybody who lives in Detroit. Personally, I am sickened that Barbara Rose Collins is turning this into a race issue. The zoo is for everyone and the whole region should be pulling together to make sure it stays open. What happened to all the regional cooperation we saw during the Super Bowl? |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 3212 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 3:01 am: | |
Ok, to get back on subject, apart from Rose-Collins inflammatory quote, there was actually a much larger, overiding reason (though nearly just as ridiculous) why the plan was shot down by the council: they have made it quite clear that they are pissed with Kilpatrick for apparently springing this one them. Actually, I find that even more ridiculous, as if council's can't make prompt and quick decisions in an emergency. This sounds like in my city, where the former mayor and the council really didn't like eachother, and would sabotage city plans and appoitments just to spite one another, in the end hurting the city. Apart from Rose-Collins' remark, there seems to be quite a bit of animosity between the council and the city administration that derailed the plan. Hopefully, there will be some "behind-the-door" meetings with separate council members to make this work for the city until a more appropriate regional solution can be found. Hopefully, Kilpatrick is already calling up his powerful suburban friends, and lobbying with regional leaders for some kind of solution on this. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2081 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.40.225.35
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 6:30 am: | |
She is not very smart (as if that is a shock to anyone)...I think she actually thinks she is going to get re-elected to Kilpatricks's congressional speech. I am embarrased for her! |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 8:56 am: | |
Whether they want it that way or not, those from the Middle East have only these typical choices for race or ethnicity (White being the most likely; otherwise - Asian or Black - if applicable): [Approximately 20% of old-line "European's" DNA was found from experiments to be "Middle Eastern."] What Racial Categories Will Be Used in Current Surveys and Other Data Collections by the Census Bureau? By January 1, 2003, all current surveys must comply with the 1997 revisions to the Office of Management and Budget's standards for data on race and ethnicity, which establish a minimum of five categories for race: American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Black or African American, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, and White. Respondents will be able to select one or more of these racial categories. The minimum categories for ethnicity will be Hispanic or Latino and Not Hispanic or Latino. Tabulations of the racial categories will be shown as long as they meet agency standards for data quality and confidentiality protection. For most surveys, however, tables will show data at most for the White, Black, and Asian populations. |
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx
Post Number: 437 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 9:44 am: | |
Can we impeach this woman? She obviously doesn't know what the hell she's talking about and has caused nothing but problems since she got into office. Bar fights, racist statements, and now I hear she's pushing for a city car "cause she doesn't want to drive her own anymore". Take action! |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 6820 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:37 am: | |
quote:700,000 hadn't left by 1970. The city's population was 1.9 million in the 1950s. It was 1.2 million in 1980. 700,000 had left by 1980, and the rate of flight did increase after the '67 riots.
700,000 white people. It was offset by 370,000 black people migrating into the city.. The rate of flight did not see a noticeable difference from 67-70. The population dropped by 180,000 in the 50s and 150,000 in the 60s. You are incorrect about the amount of white flight but correct about the total population. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2087 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 130.132.177.245
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:32 pm: | |
Tndetroiter, up until the late 60's there was still a significant migration of population into Detroit from the deep south (mostly black), rural appalachia (mostly white) and a smaller number from the middle east. Virtually all of the residents of middle, lower middle and working class Livonia, Southfield, Oak Park, Dearborn Heights, Redford, Warren etc etc. which went from small population numbers in the early 50's to about what they are today by the late 60s came from Detroit. In addition there was a significant intramigration in the 50's and 60's of lower middle and working class whites WITHIN Detroit from older neighborhoods to newer greenfield construction neighborhoods virtually indistingushible those of inner ring suburbs -- this also contributed to the economic cavitation of "inner city" Detroit -- the "inner city" just kept growing and growing further west and north ... |