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Busterwmu
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Post Number: 204
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:38 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coming to a mall near you (and, oh yes, the Chicago downtown flagship store), a MACY'S Department Store! Did someone mention Dayton-Hudsons?

http://www.suntimes.com/output /business/cst-fin-federated22. html
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Jams
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Somehow The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade down Woodward leaves me somewhat unsettled.
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Jerome81
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still a shame. That store on state street should ALWAYS be named marshall fields.
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Dag
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jams, in the words of Lee Corso, "Not so fast my friend." It will still be America's Thanksgiving Parade, all rights reserved of course.

Granted it may be sponsered by Macy's but I am not too worried about that with the Parade Company. The only thing I am really worried about is the fireworks on the fourth and whether Macy's is willing to continue everything Hudson's/Marshall Field's funded.

I doubt they would do anything to alienate their Detroit area customers but I still have questions and doubts.
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The_aram
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was my impression that since the flagship Chicago store was named a historic landmark, the name could not be changed for that location.
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Jams
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So if Hudson's became Marshall Fields and now it will be Macy's....will the remake of the Miracle on 34th Street be filmed here in Detroit?
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Dag
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:36 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like it, the question I have is where is 34th street though?

Other than that, I am down with the miracle.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well...Hollywood isn't shy about renaming their remakes any longer...so why can't it be the Miracle between 3rd and 4th Streets?!
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Jams
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Just past Junction going west, not a place most would be comfortable with.

Although I had a girlfriend that lived on 32nd in the 70's.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most people are uncomfortable with Miracles, too, don't forget.
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Jams
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 1:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My girlfriend on 32nd was a Miracle.
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Aiw
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 8:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Smokey Robinson & The Miracles?
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Ilovedetroit
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Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 9:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jams - I thought you having a girlfriend would be a miracle? :-)
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Crew
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I thought the fireworks were sponsored by Target these days.
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Ericdfan
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isn't target part of dayton-hudson?
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Crew
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Nope. Dayton-Hudson changed it's name to Target Store a few years ago then sold the Marshall Field's stores (including the old Hudson and Dayton stores) to May Company. May Company has since been bought by Federated, hence the name chage to Macy's. Target Stores continue to operate the Target discount stores but no longer have a Department Store division.
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Danny
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 9:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't wait until all the malls in Michigan that has a Mashall Field's sign to be changed into MACY'S
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Missnmich
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could be worse, Cleveland's venerable old Higbees became a Dillards ...
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Fury13
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Federated should leave all the Chicago-area stores with the Marshall Field's name.

Restore the Hudson's name in metro Detroit too, and the Dayton's name in Minnesota.

Regional appeal. The perception is more personal customer service.
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 1:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It could be worse. Detroit's venerable old Hudson's became...oh wait.
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Danny
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 3:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marshall fields and into MACYS.
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Jjw
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 3:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.christmasstreet.com /
If you want to see the Miracle on 34th Street, go to the above website. It is truely amazing and should be seen at least once in your life if you are into the Christmas thing.
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Matt
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 4:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know if renaming the department stores back to Hudson's/Dayton's is possible as it stands, Fury13.

I think Target Corporation owns the names still.

Just grasping at ideas, but whois.net pulls up this info...

Target Brands, Inc.
1000 Nicollet Mall, TPS 3165
Minneapolis, MN 55403 US

Domain Name: hudsons.com

Administrative Contact:
Admin Domainnames
(NIC-14276765)
Target Brands
1000 Nicollet Mall, TPS 3165
Minneapolis, MN 55403 US
domainnames.admin@target.com
+1.6126969614
+1.6126962888

Created on..............: 1996-Jan-29.
Expires on..............: 2006-Oct-25.
Record last updated on..: 2005-Oct-26.

Going to hudsons.com even redirects you to target.com.

Hmm... If anyone wants to own the hudsons.com domain, perhaps Target Corp will forget to renew their domain name later this year. Heh.
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Bobj
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 2:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about Crowley's, can we bring that back too?
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Fury13
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 4:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If a hyphenated brand like Neiman-Marcus can be successful in upscale retailing, how about joining two resurrected brands together: Hudson-Crowley?
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Krapug
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 9:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check out the site:

www.keepitfields.com

There are a couple of news stories alluding to the fact that the Field's name may be maintained in some fashion at the State Street store. A key reason for this being the larger than average sales increases over the holiday season at State Street. In fact a 3% increase for holiday '05, gives State Street one of the best sales increases for ANY department store in the nation this year, and if people were just going to "lunch" at the Walnut Room, and buyChristmas Ornaments, the increase would not have been that high. In other words, the people of Chicago put their money at Satte Street and got Federated's attention.

There is also a great article about Macy's 2 Grand Flagship stores (Herald Sqaure, and Union Square), and M-F State Street. It gives a breakdown of these 3 stores annual sales (each store's annual sales are larger than some entire chains), and the number of daily shoppers.
It shows just how a well run flagship store is still a draw onto it's own.

Ken

PS From a prior posters remarks it sounds like when Target sold M-F to the May Company, it did NOT include the Hudson's and Dayton's "brands".
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Fastcarsfreedom
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Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 10:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No matter where you go, this experience is the same. As the traditional retail department store business has consolidated, individual cities and regions have lost the familiar local nameplates. The strategy of many of the biggest players in the business (Federated, Dillards, Belk) has been to consolidate all of their stores under a single name, as Federated is doing with all of the brands it bought from May. Only last year Federated eliminated all of it's regional brands (Bon-Marche, Lazarus, Rich's, Goldsmiths, Burdines, etc) under the Macy's name. Belk is doing the same with the Proffitt's and McRae's chains, as Dillard's did when it bought Mercantile (Higbee's, Gayfers, Castner-Knott, etc). Saks has thus far kept it's brands seperate (including Chicago's "other" local chain, Carson Pirie Scott), and it appears that Bon-Ton will keep the seperate branding after it buys the various chains from Saks. Correct me if I'm wrong (for those south of Detroit) but so far Bon-Ton has kept it's Elder-Beerman stores seperate in terms of branding, correct? I know Bon-Ton was burned somewhat in the early 1990s when it acquired the AM&A's chain, and fiercly loyal shoppers in the AM&A's markets balked at the name change.

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