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Royce
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I have passed Cass Park hundreds of times and I could swear that the statue along the Temple side of Cass Park was that of Lewis Cass. However, recently I have seen a statue with the name "Burns" on it.

If the park is named after Lewis Cass then why would there be a statue of someone other than him? Is this really Cass and someone has taken the plaque with his name on it and replaced it with Burns? What's the 411?
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Mcpd1300
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http://detroit1701.org/Robert% 20Burns%20Statue.htm
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Broken_main
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A little more on him...

http://www.rabbie-burns.com/in dex.cfm

I had to do a report on him while at Cass Tech. My English teacher at Cass had us go to the "Lewis Cass" statue in the park to a report on him. We found it quite interesting that it was not a ststue of Cass but of Burns.
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Royce
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Thanks, folks.
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Kathleen
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From the Detroit Historical Museum's Monuments and Statues Inventory...

"In 1920, the Detroit Burns Club, requested and was granted permission to erect a statue of Robert Burns in Cass Park. The statue of Burns was dedicated July 23, 1921"

For more info: http://www.detroithistorical.o rg/collections/vewebsite2/exhi bit3/e30005a.htm
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Not too shabby (personally I can't stand the way these hip hop guys massacare the english langauge, but if yae look past it there is some good stuff ...)
O, my luve is like a red, red rose,
That's newly sprung in June.
O, my luve is like a melodie,
That's sweetly play'd in tune.

As fair art thou, my bonie lass,
So deep in luve am I,
And I will luve thee still, my dear,
Till a' the seas gang dry.

Till a' the seas gang dry, my dear,
And the rocks melt wi the sun!
And I will luve thee still, my dear,
While the sands o life shall run.

And fare thee weel, my only luve!
And fare thee weel, a while!
And I will come again, my luve,
Tho it were ten thousand mile!
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Royce
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Where in the state of Michigan is there a statue of Lewis Cass?
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Lowell
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And, lest we forget, also from the Scottish plowboy...

AULD LANG SYNE

Words adapated from a traditional song
by Rabbie Burns (1759-96)

Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
And auld lang syne?

CHORUS:
For auld lang syne, my dear,
For auld lang syne,
We'll tak a cup of kindness yet,
For auld lang syne!
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Psip
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This Robert Burns?
Robrt. Burns
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Rasputin
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Thought you might like this one Lowell:

quote:

Address Of Beelzebub
To the Right Honourable the Earl of Breadalbane, President of the Right Honourable and Honourable the Highland Society, which met on the 23rd of May last at the Shakespeare, Covent Garden, to concert ways and means to frustrate the designs of five hundred Highlanders, who, as the Society were informed by Mr. M'Kenzie of Applecross, were so audacious as to attempt an escape from their lawful lords and masters whose property they were, by emigrating from the lands of Mr. Macdonald of Glengary to the wilds of Canada, in search of that fantastic thing-Liberty.
1786



Long life, my Lord, an' health be yours,
Unskaithed by hunger'd Highland boors;
Lord grant me nae duddie, desperate beggar,
Wi' dirk, claymore, and rusty trigger,
May twin auld Scotland o' a life
She likes-as butchers like a knife.

Faith you and Applecross were right
To keep the Highland hounds in sight:
I doubt na! they wad bid nae better,
Than let them ance out owre the water,
Then up among thae lakes and seas,
They'll mak what rules and laws they please:
Some daring Hancocke, or a Franklin,
May set their Highland bluid a-ranklin;
Some Washington again may head them,
Or some Montgomery, fearless, lead them,
Till God knows what may be effected
When by such heads and hearts directed,
Poor dunghill sons of dirt and mire
May to Patrician rights aspire!

Nae sage North now, nor sager Sackville,
To watch and premier o'er the pack vile, -
An' whare will ye get Howes and Clintons
To bring them to a right repentance-
To cowe the rebel generation,
An' save the honour o' the nation?
They, an' be d-d! what right hae they
To meat, or sleep, or light o' day?
Far less-to riches, pow'r, or freedom,
But what your lordship likes to gie them?


But hear, my lord! Glengarry, hear!
Your hand's owre light to them, I fear;
Your factors, grieves, trustees, and bailies,
I canna say but they do gaylies;
They lay aside a' tender mercies,
An' tirl the hallions to the birses;
Yet while they're only poind't and herriet,
They'll keep their stubborn Highland spirit:
But smash them! crash them a' to spails,
An' rot the dyvors i' the jails!
The young dogs, swinge them to the labour;
Let wark an' hunger mak them sober!
The hizzies, if they're aughtlins fawsont,
Let them in Drury-lane be lesson'd!
An' if the wives an' dirty brats
Come thiggin at your doors an' yetts,
Flaffin wi' duds, an' grey wi' beas',
Frightin away your ducks an' geese;
Get out a horsewhip or a jowler,
The langest thong, the fiercest growler,
An' gar the tatter'd gypsies pack
Wi' a' their bastards on their back!

Go on, my Lord! I lang to meet you,
An' in my house at hame to greet you;
Wi' common lords ye shanna mingle,
The benmost neuk beside the ingle,
At my right han' assigned your seat,
'Tween Herod's hip an' Polycrate:
Or if you on your station tarrow,
Between Almagro and Pizarro,
A seat, I'm sure ye're well deservin't;
An' till ye come-your humble servant,

Beelzebub.
June 1st, Anno Mundi, 5790.


Hip-Hop ain't got nothing on that dude!! ala Rustic .... btw: that was a cold-hearted piece .....

Black-atcha .....
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Lowell
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robert burns statue detroit
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Broken_main
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Also in Sault Ste. Marie, there are plenty or dedications to Lewis Cass. I will check and see if there are any statues in the town of him.
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Jelk
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My understanding is that Lewis Cass was such an unfortunate looking man that his likeness was kept off almost all of his campaign literature when he ran for President. That's saying something considering he was running against Zach Taylor. Perhaps Mr. Cass had a likeness so horrifying that sculptures shunned any such commission. Though according to Wikipedia, there is a statue of Cass in the U.S. Capitol. A tribute to Michigan's long tradition of electing politicians not known for there looks. Recent examples include John Engler and Carl Levin. What ever you may think of their politics, I think even they would concede, GQ doesn't return their calls.
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Itsjeff
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burns
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Jimaz
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HAHAHA! Perfect! Mr. Burns!
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Yes, there is a statue of Cass in the US Capitol.
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Broken_main
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itsjeff...you are incredible!!!
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Aiw
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Here's a picture of Lewis Cass:

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Broken_main
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I have always thought he looked better on the statue. A copy of this picture hung on the walls of Cass Tech until they dropped the ceiling back in 1982.
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Kathleen
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The Lewis Cass statue in the U.S. Capitol:

LewisCass

From: http://sandstead.com/images/washington/capitol/FRENCH_Daniel_Chester_Lewis_Cass_1888_marble_h7ft_8in_Statuary_Hall_US_Capitol_source_LS_d100_44.jpg

About the statue:
http://www.aoc.gov/cc/art/nsh/cass.cfm
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Jams
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cass
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Jams
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And here I was so proud of myself that I finally figured out how to post a picture.......and I get beaten out by a GIRL!!!



A very charming and knowledgeable one, I must admit.
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Broken_main
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Wow...is that the same statue in two different locations

Good job Jams...you almost made it lol
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Royce
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Thanks, everyone for the info. And to you, Itsjeff, "Exxxxxxxxcellent."
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Kathleen
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Jams...

But not by just any GIRL!!!
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Hans Moleman

"I thought it said Boo-urns."
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Jimaz
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The contrast between these dignified statues and silly cartoons is so, ... so, ... contrasty! :-)

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