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321brian
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Just saw it on Channel 2 news. High comedy.
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Pffft
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details?
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321brian
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Some group of Detroit residents wants her and everyone on the C.C. who voted for the water rate hike for the city recalled.

I guess they just want all of us in the suburbs with overflowing pockets from the great economy to be the only ones who have to pay more for CITY OF DETROIT water.
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Broken_main
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It is the infrastructure. It needs to be rebuilt and reconfigured due to the growing region(yes that means the suburbs, as well). I am not near the actual numbers but we really need to remember that a lot of the cities and townships jump on to the DWSD bandwagon becaus ethey needed water for their 5,678 resident community. So we priovided them with water for that many people with room to grow. Then these same communities 10 years later are trying to grab water for 50,000 whenther system is only designed for 10,000.

As much as I hate to name the communities, i feel i have to because I know that these are the ones that are complaining the most. Novi, Warren, Troy are a few of the ones(there are many more, trust me)

Not to mention the fact that we sale water to these communitioes wholes, much lower than what we charge the city residents. Also it cost much more money to push water up to the Northern Suburbs than to just let it flow naturally down to the downriver area.

i know I have said this before(starting to sound more like a broken record) but it is not what the people think. We seel the water to some communities for as little as 60 cents for 1000 gallons of water, then they quadruple the price to pay there police and fire departments.

By law each community has to let their residents know how much they pay for water and how much is being charged to the resdients. Check each city's website or do a google on the desired community.
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Broken_main
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By the way, i am not a Monica Conyers supporter at all. So if they need a reason to help oust her...sign me up.
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321brian
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Broken_main,

What does your post have to do with Detroit residents protesting a rise in their rates?

I dont' mind paying more as long as everybody on the system does too.

And what is this?... "Also it cost much more money to push water up to the Northern Suburbs than to just let it flow naturally down to the downriver area."

Huh?!!! Look it up..

Macomb, MI 610'
Detroit 623'
Flat Rock 591'

Looks like both burbs are slightly below Detroit elevation wise. All outlying cities recieving Detroit water need booster pumps to maintian pressure in their lines. This isn't Rome.
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Gambling_man
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Actually Brian, the water holding tanks that you see in every town provides the pressure. Water is pumped up into those water towers and to take over where gravity cannot.....NOT to provide pressure.
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Bvos
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Gambling man,

I've yet to see a municipal water tower in a DWSD serviced city in the Detroit area. The only water towers you'll see are at industrial plants or in cities that have their own water systems.

Detroit's water system serves a largely flat territory and a very large geographic area. Their mechanical pumps send the vast majority of water to consumers, not local water towers.
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Pffft
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There's a municipal water tower in Birmingham, in the back of the Kroger and Alban's, at Maple and 15. There's a municipal water tower in North Royal Oak, just below the McDonald's on 14 Mile.

Neither has their own water system.
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Metrodetguy
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Let's start the "DWSD serviced cities" with water tower list:

1. Novi
2. Birmingham
3. Plymouth
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Jt1
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Pontiac also has a reservoir. Many of the communities that had huge spikes in rates within the last few years were due to the communities filling their reservoirs during peak demnad times.
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Susanarosa
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There's also a water tower at the corner of 10 mile and Woodward...
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Ray1936
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I was just reading an AP article in my local paper about the major problems in water supply / sewage systems that exists in Mexico City. Generally, tap water is not for drinking. Unless you'd like to meet Montezuma.

Be grateful that you have clean, good tasting water coming out of your taps. The comparative nickle and dime costs of Detroit water would be envied by most of the rest of the world. Including me in Las Vegas, which has clean water, but due to high concentrates of calcium and other hardeners it's nasty tasting.

Last drive back to Detroit in August I even brught back two one-gallon jugs of Detroit tap water. Into my fridge it went, and I rationed it for a month. Good stuff.
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321brian
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My point was Broken_main didn't know what he was talking about. There are also booster pumps that help with pressure. They look a lot like houses. Off hand I can think of one on Jefferson in S.C.S. and one on Main in Clawson.
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Metrodetguy
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The protest was "led" by the "Call 'Em Out Coalition". The same "fine" people that brought us the "Sambo Awards". Enough said as to its credibility.
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Gistok
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Those would be the same "fine people" who tried to recall HIS HONORABLE Mayor Archer because he didn't let Don Barden have a casino (the nerve of Archer not letting that multi-millionaire become a billionaire!!!). These are the same "fine people" who's "hidden agenda" is viewed as gospel regularly in the Michigan Citizen, vis-a-vis all the "praise" they have for Archer and Hendrix, and their families and associates.

I can still remember that headline of theirs last summer "ARCHER JR. GETS $25 MILLION GM CONTRACT, GM LAYS OFF 25,000". Someone must have said it, or they wouldn't be printing it.....

I guess P.T. Barnum was right about a certain type of people being born every minute.
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Barnesfoto
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Ray: Tap water in Mexico City is fine,(but not anywhere as fresh tasting) if you boil it first. But they are draining the layer of water out of the soil, and sooner or later there's going to be a problem. (Lyndon LaRouche has successfully spread rumors that the water system there is owned by Queen Elizabeth. It is not.)
Broken Main has mentioned before that he works for the Water dept, so I suspect that he does indeed know what he is talking about.
Detroit Water, it's the best that I've tasted!
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Danny
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And the war between the city and suburbs continues.
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Broken_main
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Brian, I work directly with maintaing pressures throughout the entire water distribution system. I think what you fail to realize is that there is a seriously sloping effect that really affects the way we pump our water.

For instance from our station in Rochester there is an elevation of 745 and just down the road which just so happens to be down 24 mile road is that lower point of elevation in/near Macomb at 24 and Fairchild.

Yes Macomb is at a lower elevation, but it is still at a higher elevation than the pumping station that feeds it which is on 8 mile.

As a matter of fact the highest elevation in the city of Detroit is at around 8 mile and Wyoming, which is why a lot of our stations are situated along the 8 mile corridor so that we may have a differential in system pressures.

Also the elevation at our Imlay station is 800 and the actual city datum which just so happens to be 579.755(Detroit datum) at the Kern clock downtown.

Also the highest elevation that we serve is 1100. it is Auburn Hills East of Lapeer Rd North of Brown. That is one of the main reasons we have a pumping station on the same hill that The Palace is on so that we don't have to pump up.

By the way the city of Detroit does NOT have water towers. We have reservoirs that vary in capacity from 10 Million to 30 Million gallons. Those water towers that you all see are being built by the numerous communities that are having a problem with their own growth. Most of these communities do fill during off peak time to help relieve the pressures during a time at which the load is low.



I actually supervise the distribution of this system and consider myself very knowledgable on this matter. If you want to talk about it, you can email me your number and i will be more than happy to help solve this discrepancy of my not know what I am talking about.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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321Brian,

I am pretty sure that Broken_main knows what he is talking about, especially considering he works for DWSD...and he certainly doesnt appear to be the kind of guy that just spouts out shit.

(Message edited by motorcitymayor2026 on March 13, 2006)
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Jimaz
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quote:

...draining the layer of water out of the soil,...


This is happening in Phoenix too. They're depleting the water table so much that the desert floor is sinking, opening up fissures near surrounding mountains. Recently they've had gasoline, electrical and water shortages. There's yet another electrical problem right now.

I don't care. I'm moving to Michigan! :-)
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Lowell
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Water tank in Farmington too -- de facto tower - as it is on elevation of 740 feet -- although it makes little difference for me other than for cleaning clothes and showering. I stopped drinking it over fifteen years ago after learning the extent of poisoning going on by chemical plants in Sarnia and raw sewage dumping in the Clinton river basin into the DSWD main source, Lake St. Clair. Absopure spring water for me and the family. What a pity that we continue to poison our most valuable asset.
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Broken_main
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By the way Brian...it had nothing to do with the title of the thread or Monica Conyers. I was just trying to defend why it they always see a reason for the Department to raise rates. I, for one, know the importance of the infrastructure, including the fact that we have to maintain the system, add to it, and keep up with all of these new regulations and standards to continue providing the area with a safe drinking water.

By the way, I hold 4 licenses that certifies me to filter, treat and distribute water and one to manage the system. I do know what I am doing here or the director or the mayor wouldn't have me here.
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Broken_main
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Lowell, believe it or not the surface water that we receive in each of our three intakes is some of the cleanest water in the world.

The Sarnia dumping actually stays on the Canadian side of the river due to the undercurrent. Canada is actually having a hard time keeping up with the industry standards when its comes to producing clean and safe water. Trust me, I actually saw a few letters connected with Windsor wanting to tap into the new Water Works Park facility dated some years back.

I think we are more threatened with the fact that Fermi2 is downstream and that radioactive particles can float upstream against currents and contaminate our water.

And Yes the DWSD has some of the most advance equipment to detect 1 part per trillion of any radioactivity on the water.
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Jimaz
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A couple of related stories today:

Water woes irk residents

What's draining two Great Lakes?
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Bagman
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Lowell,
were you aware that the Absopure spring water comes from a sping at the corner of 12 mile rd and Northwestern Hwy?
I only know this because when we had a store on that corner you would see one tanker after another pull into the garage behind the store and fill up......Eventually the man that owned the property came in and comfirmed it

I am not really a water man myself. I like Iced tea, or lemonade but I prefer my water with some flavor....and lots of sugar of course...
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Broken_main
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Bagman, to tell you the truth, Absopure also buys water from the DWSD and boils it runs it through reverse osmosis. Coca Cola and Pepsi does the same with their brands of water as well (dasani)
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Ilovedetroit
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You tell them Broken!
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Broken_main
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Jimaz, don't even get me started on that New haven problem. We spoke with their water department guy at about 4:30PM that day and he said that we broke 11 of his mains. What you are hearing on the news is so false its not funny. since you are in Arizona, you may not know that the weather was beautiful that day and we were running lower(key word) pressures than normal. Someone in their department opened up those water towers to quick and ruptured those mains.

If they would invest in some PRV's(Pressure Regulating Valves) this episode could have been avoided.

just to let you know about this city. a few years back they tried to chlorinate their water tower using pool chlorine. They could have killed all of the people that used that water.

It is so much easier for these city's to put the blame on the DWSD than to accept there own mistakes. In addition, the media sucked that incident up. I work closely with all of these city's and it can be very hard dealing with them at times especially when they feel it is our fault.

The media is just trying to help with the takeover of the water department anyway. This saga will continue.
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Broken_main
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Well ild...its just gets old when so many people try and accuse us of doing this and doing that. I know that their are a lot of people here working to get all of the people in the area water. As far as assuring proper pressures, we have all types of equipmentand telemetry working to assure pressures are where they should be.

You betta ask somebody
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Jimaz
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Broken_main, I hadn't formed any opinion on who deserved blame. I'm just getting interested in the subject thanks to you and all your informative posts!

Any opinion on that other story about Lakes Michigan and Huron?
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Broken_main
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I don't know much about the Lakes. The only thing I've been hearing in the industry circles are that there is an aggresive approach at piping water from the Lakes to the Western States. My summation on all of this is if you dig deep enough, you will find water.
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Lmichigan
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I agree with Jimaz, Broken Main (now I get the name, lol). Your knowledge is very interesting regardless of whether or not it is on topic. In fact, I think it's far more interesting than the original topic. lol I'm a geek that way, though. I love learning about infastructure, and the things we take for granted every day.

Yeah, I also heard that Detroit has some of the cleanest water in the nation for a big city. Lansing does, as well, I hear.
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Broken_main
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Believe it or not we, in competition we rank up there as far as clarity, taste and odor is concerned
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Didn't Detroit water win an award last year for cleanest or best tasting city water in america?? Seem to remember Kwame saying all of this...of course while the city spent tax $ importing special water for KK's office and staff at city hall..ahh anyway
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Broken_main
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Kwame actually had city water brought into the office. Only problem is it had to be processed by Absopure first then sold back to the city. Thats usually how business is done here anyway :-)
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Motorcitymayor2026
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thats right...spend an extra few hundred so that Kwame can have some of those cool jugs with the Absopure brand name on them!!

anything to pimp out that office! haha :-)
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Livernoisyard
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Lowell: I got a spring to sell you. As a bonus, it comes with its own bridge.

[Chortle! Chortle! I thought everyone knew about Absopure's "spring." They probably only bottle during March through June.]
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Jimaz
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The What's draining two Great Lakes? story was interesting because it seems to be a catastrophic (although slowly developing) problem. (Yeah, I'm a geek too.)

quote:

The lake level reduction since the mid-1800s has been 32 inches, an amount 28 times the volume of Lake St. Clair


If this is really a problem and someone solves it, it will truly be an engineering feat.
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Jimaz
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I would think spring water wouldn't suffer from either of the problems mentioned in Lowell's post. Am I missing something? Is it not a legitimate spring?
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321brian
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Broken_main.....I think the name says it all!
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Barnesfoto
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ah, broken, perhaps I could pass on to you that there is water springing out of the street behind the Michigan Central Station.
Can you get some guys on it before the Absopure Truck arrives and starts filling up on the "spring water"?
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Broken_main
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Its just a name that I use on the forum. Does it mean anything about myself?? Nope

sticks and stones dude, its a screen nanme that I chose.
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Barnesfoto
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a specific location would be helpful, yes? It's on 18th St. just behind the MCS.
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321brian
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I know. The irony.
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Livernoisyard
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Some two hundred years ago, Springwells Township (Southwest Detroit, Dearborn, etc.) was originally named for its numerous spring wells, especially those somewhere in the Clark Street area.
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Broken_main
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I will get someone over there ASAP. Thanks Barnesfoto.

Just up the street from where I live...
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Barnesfoto
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Springs....one such spring was located where I-75 crosses Clark. Another was next to Amelia Earhart School.
Broken_....and where I live. how you liking the new digs?
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Broken_main
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Awwww, wow...they are great. The decorating is tedious. I am still waiting for my window treatments. We have all the basics in place. Still trying to determine a theme for certain areas in the house. But all in all , its a fun experience.
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Barnesfoto
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just wait till July...you will have a great view of the fireworks from either your window, or Stanton Park. And Honeybee will have their annex open soon, with an expanded deli counter!
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Broken_main
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Honeybee is great!!! A deli...that is wonderful. my son loves to get his gummy worms there. I have the perfect view of the skyline out of the front of my place and I have the bright lights from the bridge out of my bedroom(that is until I get those room darkening curtains)

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