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Andyguard73
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Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 141.209.33.143
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone! I'm knew to the forum and just thought I'd say hi by sharing this with you guys.

http://www.thetimesherald.com/ apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/200 60312/NEWS01/603120304/1002/NE WS17

I thought you guys might find this interesting because as I've been reading through the different threads on here I've noticed a lot of similarities between the revitilzation efforts of these two "old industrial towns," and this article sums up what's going on nicely.

The impact of the Casino proposal, which includes a 500 room hotel and the largest gaming floor in the state, on a city of 35,000 is easily comparible to the impact of the 3 in detroit.

The article also alludes to the groups proposal for our civic arena and convention center. The home of our semi pro football and professional hockey teams, the arena would be expanded to roughly 8,000 seats and have luxury boxes installed. Trust me, this would be as big a deal to Port Huron as both the cobo expansion and a new arena for the Wings.

For those of you aware of the state's talks with Ontario for a new detroit river crossing, we even have a MAJOR mdot construction project set to begin soon that has caused its fair share of debate: An 80 acre 340 million dollar expansion of the Customs plaza for the Blue Water Bridges in the middle of downtown.

And to top it all off, it was all started by the riverfront redevolment of old industrial land to a waterfront parkway and mixed use development. Sound familiar?

http://www.achesonventures.com /desmondlanding.asp

I'm posting this not as a Port Huron promotion or anything like that. I do suggest though that you take a look at whats going on in Port Huron though, as kind of a guinea pig for the revitilization of Detroit.
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Lilpup
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Post Number: 887
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 64.12.116.204
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

kinda thinking all that development in PH might negatively impact the D...too close by

does anyone else shudder at the thought of more casinos, more hotels, more cheesy development that depends so heavily on discretionary spending?

is there anything being done in PH that will be unique to PH? what's expected to draw people in (other than not having to go to a casino farther away)?
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Steelworker
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Posted From: 70.137.106.159
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they already have a casino in porthuron its just other side of the river.
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Andyguard73
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Posted From: 64.25.200.14
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as the Casino goes steelworker's right, there is a casino right across the river in Sarnia. And more than 75 percent of that casino's visitors are American. Right or wrong, I think the developer's idea is keeping the money on this side of the river.

As for Lilpup's points I don't think Port Huron's proximity to detroit is really an issue. I'd say it falls out of the sprawl region by a good half an hour's drive. As for the "shuddering" I agree, and so do a lot of people. At this point a lot of people though who may be morally opposed to a casino are backing off, mostly because of the propsect of jobs being created. St. Clair County's economy isn't any better off then Wayne's.

For the uniquely Port Huron question take a look at this Crains Detroit article on the Desmond Landing Site:

http://www.achesonventures.com /NI_Crain_s.asp

It's both the spirit of the project and the actually site itself that make it unique. The seaport at the south end and vantage point to the north are the keys to the identity. Vantage point already has a unique boat watching facility, and plays home to boatnerd.com, and internet site that tracks and has information on all the great lake freightors. More plans include a nautical village and for you preservation junkies, a 100 year old depot is being converted into a maritime museum.
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Andyguard73
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mostly I posted the article not as a commentary either way on Port Huron or Detroit. But I thought it would be worthwhile for detroiter's to watch the developments in Port Huron to see how they fare, since we are talking about very similar projects in a similar environment on a much smaller scale, IMO.
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Jimaz
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Post Number: 417
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 68.2.191.57
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 1:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andyguard73, thanks. I'm reading it now.
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Darwinism
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Post Number: 435
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 69.215.30.34
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 9:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andyguard73: Welcome to the forum and thank you for the article of Port Huron. It is most certainly helpful to observe other cities, big and small, and perhaps resemble some of the successes even if they are on a micro level. However, I must caution you that there are a number of smartasses on this forum who are so tunnel-visioned and cocky, they will simply tell you that Detroit is Detroit and nowhere else on the face of the earth(including Port Huron) will there be anything to learn from or exemplify. It is sad but reality lies in the attitude of people like these in Detroit more than Detroit's natural problems. The attitude, my friend. Thankfully, we have forumers who actually reside elsewhere such as Washington DC, New Mexico, Chicago, Arizona, California and so on, who chime in to pass along their 2 cents.
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Andyguard73
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for the greetings and the tip Darwinism. I've definitely noticed that too. As long as there are some people willing to get into thoughtful debate, I'm all for it!

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