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Jjaba
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Post Number: 3324
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to the Theater Historical Society of America, Ilitch Holdings, owners of The Fox since 1987, are spending $2 on exterior repairs to sign and terra cotta repair.

The new sign will spell out F-O-X on four sides, in letters 18 feet high. A 12 pointed star will crown the sign and be 106 ft. above the roof. Such a star denotes the stars that have played there. All this will be computer controlled, using light emitting diodes as light sources.

Mike and Marian Ilitch were named THS Honorary Members of the Year, 1990.

The article also says that Ilitches are hiring an architect to evaulate the re-do of the Adams Theater. Here jjaba invokes Skipper's Rules.
(Believe it when you see it.)
jjaba.
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Gravitymachine
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Post Number: 932
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haven't been down on the dexter bus lately huh?

the sign was done before the superbowl
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Matt_the_deuce
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Post Number: 563
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you been at Trader Vic's all afternoon Jjaba?

Are you Irish/Jewish?

Can I see into the future?
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Jjaba
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jjaba needs to get out more. Thanks.

jjaba, apologizes for Old News. Does The Forum like the new sign?
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Matt_the_deuce
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it looks pretty darn good. I mentioned this before but my one knock would be that I think all the different colors can be a bit much at times. But...

The structure itself looks great. I fantastic beacon that you can see all the way from Hart Plaza. It really puts a nice exclamation point on the whole Woodward strip and signals the edge of downtown.
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Ddaydave
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it looks great but then you go a few blocks and see buildings he lets rot ...Damn mike at least put a new roof on them to stop water damage or is it a new parking lots he wants after all
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Jimaz
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Post Number: 447
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I learned something. I didn't know until now they'd used that new LED technology. That must be truly brilliant!
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Blessyouboys
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Post Number: 321
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ff



my apologies to whoever I stole that from
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5395
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Matt. I looks good heading south on Woodward too.

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Ddmoore54
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Post Number: 287
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it looks tacky as hell. Turns a beautiful building into what looks like a carnival.
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5396
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dmoore, I belive it is a replica of an original sign.
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Mackinaw
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not the biggest fan either. Spotlights on the roof: good thing. Another vertical sign which doesn't match the other sign: bad.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can AIW see The new FOX signs from the top of his roof or from his other Windsor perches?

jjaba.
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Jasoncw
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it is a replica too.

I think the State needs a better lighting scheme (if it even has any lights at all)
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5397
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 8:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba, no.
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 299
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 9:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"According to the Theater Historical Society of America, Ilitch Holdings, owners of The Fox since 1987, are spending $2 on exterior repairs to sign and terra cotta repair."

Just $2? That's less than one ticket sale! Ilitch can surely spot a deal.
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Jjaba
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Livernoisyard, correction. That's $2 million.
Sorry for the confustion caused by jjaba, typing too fast on empty stomach.

jjaba, no excuses.
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Eric
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 10:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It can be visual overkill if they light the entire facade as in the pic above. Without the rest of the facade lit it looks much better IMO.


I agree about the State needing more lighting during SBXL it was washed in red and blue light and looked just amazing. A sizable, vertical marquee wouldn't be bad either

(Message edited by eric on March 16, 2006)
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 10:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This was information was released when the Ilitch's did their PR stunt just before the Superbowl that also included their announcement to renovate the Detroit Building, and seek redevelopment for the UA Building and Fine Arts Building/Adams Theater.
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 11:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you want overkill just go to Times Square in NYC or London's Picadilly Circus. The Fox looks tame by comparison. It only looks overdone because so much of the theatre district is still undeveloped and dark.

Detroiters are not used to seeing their downtown lit up in neon and stud lights. We should pray for the day when more marquees and vertical signs are installed and lit up at night around a restored theatre district with the lights on in all the occupied buildings.

Most of us were not around in the 20's and 30's when the Grand Circus Park area was ablaze in neon and stud lighting, along with the klieg (large spotlight) lighting.... Hornwrecker has shown us pictures of Grand Circus Park at night, where it was almost like daylight with all the theatres blazing 3 levels of theatre lights (marquee, vertical, and rooftop).

Garish or not, and yes it may look like a carnival atmosphere, but that is the way it was in the golden days....

You want a restored downtown that looks like it did in its' heyday, then get used to it!

(Message edited by Gistok on March 16, 2006)
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Hysteria
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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 11:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you betcha !
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Dougw
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 1:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That pic was mine, blessyouboys. No problem, saved me from looking it up myself.
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Jimaz
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A fine picture it is too, Dougw. Thanks!
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Hysteria
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 1:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Agreed. Will be at the FOX tomorrow evening.
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I sued to be able to see it out my front window and I would stare at it for 10 minutes. I like the way it changes colour and patterns. A gerat addition to the area.
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Gogo
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Detroit Life Building looks like it has its own website:

http://www.thedetroitbuilding. com/
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Jjaba
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat, how far do you live from the river? Are you up at any elevation above the Fox? Are you directly South of Downtown Detroit? Without traffic, how long would it take you to drive to the Fox?

Glad to see Canadians enjoying their big city neighbor both at night and during the day.

jjaba, checking his compass.
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:34 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to live on the river (east of downtown in old Walkerville), no elevation, it would take me approx 5 minutes to drive to the Fox if I could go straight through customs with little traffic. Heavier traffic it usually took 10 minutes.
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Jjaba
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Goat must be driving a Triumph, Ford Cortina, MGB, Sunbeam or a Morris Minor to make it across that fast. Those were the days, eh.
Thanks.

jjaba, sitting on his English bone China at Customs.
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Goat
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 11:19 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had an MGB and a Triumph (though the Triumph never ran). I always wanted a Morris Minor though. Great little cars, can't say much for the Lucas wiring.
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Jjaba
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Goat owns a Triumph
they're the best.

Drive a mile
Walk the rest.

Burma Shave, eh.

jjaba, faithfully N. American.
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Livernoisyard
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The middle 1960s were good to me car-wise. Picked up a 1953 Jaguar XK-120C roadster for parts at a salvage yard for $300 and a 1958 XK-140 roadster from a classified ad @ $850 for the road.

Afterwards, a 1965 Cessna 150F in 1970 for $3000. However, its wingspan made it difficult to handle on the highway.
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56packman
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Why do the english drink warm beer?
because they have Lucas refrigerators

What's the Lucas company motto?
Home before dark

Joseph Lucas is creditied with the invention of the first intermittent wipers--his company also pioneered the production of intermittent ingnition, lighting and accessory operation.

The Packman started with an MGB-GT, before he was hip to Packard.
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56packman
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One thing that happened to the Fox during the exterior restoration work is the re-creation and installation of the terra cotta "crownwork", replacing the bits that were chopped off the building in the 50's. Back then A piece of ornamental stone fell off of a unmaintained 19th century building, narrowly missing someone. The city over reacted and made the owners of any building downtown chop off any vertically oriented doo-dads for fear they would all rain on the public and kill someone. in the case of the Fox building, those pieces were cast with 1" re-rod inside, and not going anywhere in a hurry. But off they came, and now they are back again, just like '28
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Jjaba
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This is the first time in a long time The Forum has been nice to Mike Ilitch.

Glad he just plunked down $2 million on one Detroit bldg. That's a lotta pizza.

jjaba.
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Mplsryan
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 4:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm, the detroit life site only lists one 'related restorations' - the fox. Imagine that, only one.
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56packman
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Jjaba-the restoration work set Mike back 400,000 pizzas.

(Message edited by 56packman on March 17, 2006)
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Jjaba
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Were those the special combos or just cheese and sausage? Does that figure include the red pepper seeds and a box for each? Did you factor in the foreign franchises with the Canadian money exchange?

jjaba, LOL.
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Busterwmu
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The FOX letters on the rooftop sign = looks good. The Durasig traffic signals replacing the aging but graceful Classic signals from the 1960s out front = aweful.

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