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Zulu_warrior
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.governmentguide.com /community_and_home/where_i_li ve/dangerstates.adp
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Dhugger
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:17 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not bad. I have fallen asleep with my doors unlocked (didn't know it) House in Detroit had the back door not only unlocked but wide open all weekend. Freaked us out on our return home. Nothing missing & best of all no rodents. Luck I suppose + good neighbors.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 1:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't but help to think everytime I read "such-and-such most this" and "such-and-such best/worst place to live" how irresponsible most of these reports and titles are. If we're talking danger, why not also include how likely one is to die in a traffic accident, how polluted a particular place is, the quality of health care...all of which can be dangers. These reports also do little to distinguish between concentrations of crime, which is only one form of danger (and probably the rarest form). I'm not saying that I don't believe that Nevard is not #1 or that Michigan is not #12, but Morgan Quitno is notorious for their simplified definitions or particular aspects of places. I'd like something much more comprehensive. But, then again, our newspapers and magazines are published for those with, what is it, 6th grade reading levels, I believe?
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Futurecity
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 2:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm... I think that if they included stats like traffic accidents and pollution, Michigan would probably move up to 4 or even 3.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 2:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't care. I'd just like to see more comprehensive, and thus, more accurate reports. I have no problem with Michigan ranking high, or any other state for that matter...if it really does. Many would argue that I'm simply being too picky, but naming a "Most Dangerous State" is kind of irresponsible when basing it on only one form of danger, and probably one of the rarest forms of danger, at that. Studies like this do harm considering many people in this country take headlines at face value. For many perception is reality, even if it isn't, necessarily, which is why I think these "study groups" should be a bit more responsible in studying and releasing these reports. Is it so much to ask for an honest take? That's asking too much of too many, though.

(Message edited by lmichigan on March 28, 2006)
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Zulu_warrior
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 9:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe Lmich, you should put one together. Call it the Ruins index or the Lmich index.

What would be the indicators....?
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Eastsidedog
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 5:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd like to see a list of the most boring states.

I'd probably go something like:

1. North Dakota
2. Maine
3. Vermont
5. New Hampshire
6. Wyoming
7. South Dakota
8. Wisconsin
9. Iowa

38. Michigan
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Ray1936
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Post Number: 408
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 6:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see my adopted home state of Nevada is Number One. I thought what happened here stayed here.

Interesting since 88% of Nevada is open desert owned by the Bureau of Land Management. Must be them damn feds causing all this problem.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 6:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When they steal your car in Las Vegas, it ends up chopped up in Fallon. What happens in Nevada stays in Nevada. Ray1936 is right again.

jjaba, enjoying a plate of Matzoh Ball Soup at Lindy's in the Flamingo Hilton.
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Danindc
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Are you kidding, Eastsidedog? Northern New England is incredible if you like the outdoors.
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Eastsidedog
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Look at the other rankings for safest and healthiest.

So apparently we should be clambering to live in New Hampshire, the blandest, whitest state ever.

Pleez. no thanks.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 6:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New Hampshire is the whitest, Idaho is second.
Both are VERY conservative also.

jjaba.
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Eastsidedog
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Jjaba, So if that's the ideal then they can eat me. You can't decide where to live based on statistics. Look at nevada, it's SOOOO DANGEROUS but they have a population explosion. Those people moving to Vegas obviously don't care about it being dangerous.

What I hate about this list is they imply that dangerous is bad.
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Mountainman
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My present adopted state of Montana is just off the list. While it is anything but boring, I must vouch for the boringness of Wyoming and N. Dakota. I have had a blast in Vermont though .... And Wisconsin. Although Wisconsin is only safe because their polic force is akin to the SS of Nazi fame. Many a good time a Alpine Valley was prevented by them.
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Ray1936
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I dunno, in 22 years no crime has hit me or anyone I know here in Vegas. In Detroit, my homes were B&E'd three times and I had one stolen car outta my driveway that ended up torched behind Jumbo's Bar. But stuff can happen anywhere.

I know most of you have taken Statistics, so we all know you can make numbers do just about anything you want them to. That's why I usually yawn at these "lists". Mean, median, or mode. Phooey.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 11:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nevada has ranked number 1 for quite a few years. In fact, if it isn't consecutive this year, it is known for its consercutive runs at #1. People probably have the same stories about Detroit. The thing is that Metro Las Vegas holds most of the state's population, and is increasingly and consistent in its crime rate.

BTW, where do you live in Vegas, Ray? My dad use to live at MLK and 95, and now lives way up past the beltway in the very northwest corner near the state park.
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Ray1936
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Lmichigan, right now I'm near Sam's Town around Boulder Highway and E. Flamingo. But we're having a home built way down in the south end of Henderson, so we'll be about as far away from your Pop as possible and still be in the valley.

Needed to make the move; our present two story house is tough on Mrs. Ray1936 since she broke her ankle last year. New digs are one story.
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Jjaba
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Stole my car in Henderson, Nevada, ended up in a chop shop in Wells. What happens in Nevada stays in Nevada.

jjaba, losing his shirt at Station Casino on Boulder Hwy. in Las Vagas.
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Ray1936
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LOL :-) Jjaba. Just spent the afternoon in that place and won your money back. Only instead of sending it to you, I went to Office Max and bought two sets of ink cartridges for my printer. Sorry, but thanks.
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Lmichigan
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Ray, not too familiar with the eastside of the valley, but that is a relatively old part of the city, isn't it? My dad use to take us up to Sunrise Mountain (or near it) where the Mormon temple is and watch the city lights below, at night.
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Ray1936
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Yes it is. My present home was built in 1974 and is so (comparatively) old it's on the National Register........:-)

I usually drive up Lake Mead to Sunrise Mountain and park to watch the Thunderbirds at Nellis AFB when they practice in the spring. It's just about that time, too.
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Eastsidedog
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Wow. 1974 and on the National Register. In what way is it historic?
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Ray1936
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I was being facetious, eastsidedog (note the smiley). Seems like when a building gets to be twenty years old out here, they blow the sucker up.
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Eastsidedog
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 11:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ray1936, really? They blow em up? Are there lotsa teardowns? If so, that's sad. It's so sad to see perfectly good houses torn down to build newer, bigger houses. Sorry. This is OT.
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Lmichigan
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Please, don't cry for Vegas' "historic" housing stock. lol You'll find that you'll be crying alone.

(Message edited by lmichigan on March 29, 2006)
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Ray1936
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 1:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bear in mind that Detroit was 204 years old when Las Vegas was founded in 1905. And there wasn't much that happened here anyway until after WW II. So all Las Vegas history is of the 20th century, mostly from the last half.

If it hadn't been for the Comstock silver lode discovery in 1859, I doubt that Nevada would have had statehood before 1920 or so. (We did get it in 1864, and appropriately, on October 31 -- Haloween.)
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Jjaba
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What do locals think of the Fremont Street Experience? jjaba thought it was dreadful.
He waited an hr. to see it, but did spend time looking at the neon art everywhere which was very nice.

Then jjaba's car was stolen down there. Ended up in a Basque chopshop by the UP mainline in Winnemucca. What happens in Nevada stays in Nevada.

jjaba, at the tables in Station Casino on the Westside. (Trying to win some computer ink.)
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 3:41 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since there isn't much too the original topic of this thread, I guess it doesn't hurt to hijack. Personally, I think the Fremont Street Experience brought more life to downtown than it probably would have seen otherwise. Plus, it close down a street and gave it back to pedestrians which is great in my book regardless of the actual canopy. It's cool to see how street artists have developed along this pedestrian corridor. Consider how much the Strip had come to shadow downtown in the early 90's, I think the FSE set off a current wave of downtown redevelopment that has helped in the long run.

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