Discuss Detroit Archives - Beginning January 2006 Whats up with "The Madison" by Comerica Park? Previous Next
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Sparty
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard it might open opening day?

what the hell is it? It sure was open super bowl week...
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Jt1
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 5:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think they are looking for a permanent tenant still. During SB there was still a lot of work to be finished.

Maybe there is a tenant and the place will permanently be the Madison but I thought that was just a name slapped together for SB.

I would love to see what the space looks like as it has a ton of potential.
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Focusonthed
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 6:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, back in one of the SB threads, someone on here said it was going to be permanent, following completion of renovations. That same week, it was empty, with a for sale sign on the window.
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Bpjeff
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 8:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just walked by and it is far from finished. In fact, there is a sign on the window that states: "Bar for Sale/Lease" I doubt it will be open by Opening Day.
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Eric
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No tenant yet the retail space still not rented according to its listing

http://www.cpix.net/jsp/listin gs/listing_overview.jsp?listin gID=540265
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Erikd
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 9:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The construction of the building isn't even done yet. They just finished putting up the SE wall a few days ago. It will probably be a while before any permanent tenants move in.
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Hooha
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of the temporary Super Bowl bars, anybody know when Cliff Bell's will open back up?
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Sharmaal
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Opening day. I spoke to someone at the sight yesterday. The street level facade looks finished now and I think they were getting ready to wash the exterior of the rest of the building.
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Matt
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice one, smart ass. :P So when is opening day? :P
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Spitty
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Opening Day is April 10th. You must not have tickets.

www.detroittigers.com
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Dmart
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 1:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, There always seamed to be an Opening Day party there the last couple years regardless if there was only a half shell of a building up.

It would really piss me off, that the Post (Wheelers) wouldn't dump any money into that place after they started it, and then let it sit, and have the audacity to throw opening day parties. I always wished a Code Official would ticket there ass.

I wrote them an e-mail bitching about the lack of progress, pretty much ripping on them for tearing down a building, and ripping the Madison Theater Apart, then letting it sit. I heard there was some money issues, but I don't give a shit. There opening huge bars all across Michigan, while they let this one sit, and actually made the building look worse than when it was just vacant.

They e-mailed me back, saying how much they have always supported Detroit and how their downtown bar is an Icon.

Yeah, open up million dollar bars all across Michigan, but you can't sink a frickin dime into the Downtown Post in the last decade (atleast). The place is a dump!

That is a prime location, I can't beleive anybody hasn't snatched it up yet.
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Newman
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 12:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Dmart, the Post (Wheelers) do not own the Madison and have not for over a year. The construction project was loaded with minefields that could not be overcome and resulted in the dissolution of the ownership group.
The 408 Congress Post is an icon. If you feel that it is a dump, that's because it is. But as the old saying goes, if it's good enough for Gretzky, it should be good enough for you.
Each Post has its' own soul. Downtown will always be the original and I love it there.
There is absolutly no reason to dump money into the joint. It is packed after a hockey game and acts as a clubhouse for the remainder of the non event nights.
Remember that when Cobo Joes was charging a $100.00 cover charge and the Anchor was at $40, the Post refused to take advantage of the Detroiters and out of towners that got them where they are today and kept their cover at $3.00.
Every business has made mistakes and for the record, there were only 2 opening day parties there. Everyone involved with the project wanted to make a go of it. It just didn't work out. Just ask the city. However, a lot of forumers want to put the Wheelers in the same bracket as the Mike I clan.
Buy your own bar, give er a go.
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Dmart
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 1:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wrote them about 3 years ago on this, so at the time they still owned the property, had stopped construction for quite a while, because of the unsurmountable obstacles, and opened bars up in Auburn Hills, East Lansing, Ferndale, etc.

The dedicated to Detroiter's speil kind of falls on deaf hears, when all of their recent investments are outside of Detroit.

"The construction project was loaded with minefields that could not be overcome and resulted in the dissolution of the ownership group."

Yeah, the minefields were so overwhelming, that someone was able to nearly complete the construction in less than a years time and deemed it a good enough investment to do so, while it sat stagnant for three years prior.

If they charged $5 cover, the place would sit empty.

For the record a "couple" means two, sometimes three if your nuts.

I went to the one in Ferndale a couple of times the first Summer it opened, it was a great place if you liked hanging out with meatheads who want to fight if they get touched in a way overcrowded bar, and there's always the aesthetically pleasing used gum collection lining the sidewalk in front.

Charming
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Newman
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 1:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is obvious that you have formulated an opinion. I won't try and sway that.
However, your post is riddled with inaccuracies and misstatements of facts.
Ferdale was opened in 1997
Auburn Hills was opened in 2002
East Lansing has a Post Bar Name but is Not owned by the Wheelers (Much like the Post East and the Dearborn Post.

Good luck to the new owners when it is decided that the Brodrick has to come down because it is falling down.

They do charge cover on Hockey nights. And no the place is not empty.

I am not, and have never considered myself a meathead.

Please inform us when you are opening the doors to your joint in the city.
I would even settle for having you tell me where your business is located within the city.
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Bob
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 1:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, their is a Post in Clinton Township, but it is owned by the same people that own Andiamo's.
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E_hemingway
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 1:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of the Broderick Tower, there's a big new sign on it announcing its redevelopment. Anybody have any news on it? I have my doubts about the Broderick falling down. All of the photos I have seen of it inside and out and from walking by indicate on the surface that it is still quite structurally sound. However, if I'm missing something, please point it out.
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Eric
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Post Number: 392
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 2:50 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There has been a sign out there for months mentioning JC Beal and Kraemer Design doing the work. That sign or did another one replace it?

(Message edited by eric on April 01, 2006)
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E_hemingway
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It looked like a newer and bigger one, I think. I was pretty drunk when I walked past it last night. The old had become detatched.
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Kraemerdesigngroup
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Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 8:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

E_hemingway and Eric - the redevelopment of the Broderick Tower is on target. Kraemer Design Group is 80% with the construction documents.

This past week, surveyors and testing engineers were on site. A complex study is onging to determine the feasibility of putting in a tunnel to the Grand Circus Garage.

Next week may see testing engineers on swing stages reviewing the skin on the tower (keep your fingers crossed that nothing terrible is discovered).

If everything goes as expected, construction should start early this fall.
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Eric
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 2:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the update, good to hear things are progressing. I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed that nothing bad is found
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E_hemingway
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 9:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Kraemerdesigngroup. Just a shot in the dark, but are there any updates about when work will start on the Detroit Life Building?
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Downtown_dave
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 2:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Madison is full of people enjoying the Tiger opener -- Budweiser and Buddy's Pizza. Looks like the Superbowl down there again!
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Cmubryan
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 2:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it just another temporary thing or can we actually count on it being open?

Speaking of Buddy's Pizza-why the hell don't they open a joint downtown already?
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Downtown_dave
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 2:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd guess it's temporary - but at least the owners (or someone) is using the space when they can until a permanent tenant is signed.
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Gotdetroit
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2006 - 2:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if they rent the space for events (assuming it's not permanent, or even if it is). We're thinking about hosting a party downtown with a band this summer. And that would be a great location. If anyone knows, that would be helpful.

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