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Jmcbroom
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 6:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/ business/chi-ap-il-cheapbusfar e,1,6993070.story?coll=chi-bus iness-hed

This seems like a Midwestern version of the Chinatown buses that college students like me use to get around the East Coast. Glad to see that these cheap buses are coming to the Midwest. Even the non-$1 fares are cheap. 8 bucks seems to be a normal fare between Detroit and Chicago, and it's not much slower than a car.

www.megabus.com
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Bob
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 6:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You beat me to posting this. Not sure how they will make that time, since traffic around Chicago will hamper that. Amtrak may have to deal with freight traffic, but I would take that over having to sit on a bus in traffic. Will be interesting to see if they make it.


http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060402/B IZ/604020383/1001
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Dougw
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It does sound like a great idea. I guess the Detroit-Chicago Megabus is a non-stop route, whereas Amtrak has several stops, which is how Megabus can potentially be quicker.
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Bob
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Non-stop yes, but do you actually think it will be able to get through Chicago traffic and make it on time?
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Paulmcall
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Boy, that will be a great ride with everyone who can scrape up a buck. Better bring some air freshener.
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Focusonthed
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Interesting...I wonder if any of the transient population will choose to leave, once they hear of this. Panhandle for a dollar, then hit the road for the "bigger opportunities" in Chicago.
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Thrice
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 10:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, lots of homeless people have credit cards and computer access....

I'll be riding it next month for sure when I head to chicago.
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Lmichigan
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Great idea. This should hold some off until we can put together that Midwest, high-speed rail network (still years off, it seems).
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Focusonthed
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My bad, I forgot the part about no walk-up sales.
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Ddaydave
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at a lot of those detroit stops I wouldn`t leave my car for a weekend
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Smogboy
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Just how many of those $1 seats are there going to be?

From the sounds of it, it could be very interesting. I still miss good ol' Southwest Airlines flying out of City Airport for about $60 round trip to Chicago; I made a few impromptu lunches that way!
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Nellonfury
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Speaking of buses, has anyone heard anything when the city is going to start on The New Rosa Parks Bus Transit Center?? The ground breaking was past months ago and my friend and I was taking about it.
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E_hemingway
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The $1 fare is only to get headlines and free press. I'll bet those prices drift away fairly quickly. I wonder how the average fare will match up against the Greyhound and Amtrak prices?
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Bob
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With gas prices being the way they are, there is no way they'll make money on this. The article did say that there were something like four seats per bus at the $1 level. They they go up from there, but if will "competative" with other methods of transportation to Chicago. I don't see this service lasting.
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Danny
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$1 bus ride from Chi-Town to Detroit. Excellent ideal. Now that's public transit.
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Genesyxx
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Yeah, those $1 seats are flying quick! You'd have to go a month down the line to have a chance at finding them. It's still cheaper and a good deal, at least until they hike prices.
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Machoken
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I think this service could succeed. Last time I flew to Chicago (the boss made me do it), after all was said and done it ended up taking me just over 5 1/2 hours to get to my destination on the gold coast. And that cost I think more than $200 plus rental car. So next time I can take a bus for less than $10 and the trip will take just about the same amount of time as it would to fly? Put me down, I'm down.
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Warriorfan
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High-speed rail would be sweet.
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Quinn
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How can they afford this? Where is their margin? Seems like a dumb business idea.
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Machoken
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Megabus appears to have started in the UK, and seems to be quite successful with a comprehensive list of destinations from London.

http://www.megabus.com/uk
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Machoken
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One thing that I think will help this service succeed is the availability of rental cars near the bus stops, especially for people coming into Detroit from Chicago. I assume that renting a car (or hopping on the El) at Union Station in Chicago is pretty easy to do, but how about renting a car in GCP and on Wayne State's campus?
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Lurker
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quote:

but how about renting a car in GCP



There is an Avis 2 blocks south.
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Thrice
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its also a people mover stop. You can be at the Rencen in 5-10 minutes....
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Dougw
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quote:

How can they afford this? Where is their margin? Seems like a dumb business idea.



See this quote from the DetNews article: "Every bus will have three or four $1 one-way seats available on a first-come, first-serve basis. As those sell out, a slightly higher price ticket will become available.
Ticket prices will continue to rise gradually as each price point sells out.
Alvich would not disclose the top ticket price between Detroit and Chicago, but said it would be below the competition."

So, most tickets will be more than $1. The chart lists the round-trip costs at $9, so perhaps that is the price for the largest block of tickets. But then they might raise prices up to $40 or whatever as the bus gets closer to filling up. As long as it's still cheaper than the competition (Amtrak at $72), they can still sell tickets.

Also, I'm guessing they are saving some money by only having online ordering.
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Thrice
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Just from playing around with the pricing on the website, I've found $1, $7 and $15 tickets and up from there.

My trip to chicago next month is going to cost
$1 Detroit -> Chicago
$15 Chicago -> Detroit


Great system though, hope they stay around a long time.
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Focusonthed
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I don't know where they got $72 from. When I went to Chicago from Ann Arbor, it was $45 round trip. Amtrak's fares are progressive based on distance, so there's no way it cost $22 more to go to Detroit, as it only cost $1 more to go from Dearborn.
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Jsmyers
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Amtrak prices can get really high on a weekend when you take a long trip and don't plan in advance.

But if you plan ahead they are pretty good.

BTW - Always check the hot deals section on Amtrak. If there is a sale on a certain train, you won't find it on the normal system. Some friends of mine went AA-Detroit on Saturday for $6.90. $10 is normal.
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Bob
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Yeah, you have to check out the "Rail Sale" section of Amtrak's website. I can see people getting really ticked at this new company for advertising so much for $1 seats, then having to pay $40. I have traveled on Amtrak to Chicago numerous times and never paid $72 round trip.
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Vic_doucette
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 1:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A friend of mine used this service to come to Detroit yesterday. She spent $8 for her ticket. The bus was new, clean and comfortable, and the driver was quite friendly. The bus left Chicago on time, navigated construction hassles on Chicago's Dan Ryan Expressway, yet still made it to the WSU bus stop a few minutes early. She loved it.

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