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Jtw
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it's opening day! here's a toast to our fair Tigers - may they have a winning season at last!
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Chitaku
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Doubtfull
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Bobj
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probable
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Spitty
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I bet my friend that the Lions would have a higher winning percentage (I should say lower losing percentage)than the Tigers. Hopefully that will at least make both mediocre seasons a little more interesting.
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Marcnbyr
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Lions record: 5-11 for a WP of .313

For a .313 winning percentage out of 162 games, the Tigers would have to win 50. Less than that if you wanted a lower WP. Even a bad season for the team would still net 60-65 wins (and that's lowballing it) as the last two their win totals have been in the 70's. Either you had higher expectations for the Lions, or you think the Tigers are the worst team in the league....More likely, you made a bad bet.
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Jjaba
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.313 is a damn good batting average though.
Maybe we'll have one of those at the end of 162 games. Been a long time. Now get us a decent hot dog.

Good Luck Tigers.

jjaba.
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Focusonthed
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Polanco batted in the .360s for a good portion of the year. Not sure where he ended up, but I remember he would have won the batting title, had he been in the AL long enough.
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Jtw
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focus:
yeah, he nearly had a high enough BA to win the batting title in BOTH leagues, had he qualified for either one! i hope it continues, since i was really impressed.
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Rjk
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Hope springs eternal.

88 wins.

GO TIGERS.
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River_rat
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77-85
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Mackinaw
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That is true focusonthed. He is way underrated, but not for long.

I'll go with 88 wins as well.

Can't wait for Monday at CoPa.
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Rusty
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why is our leadoff man NOT bunting? TWICE

Damn Leyland.
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Cheddar_bob
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I haven't seen a bunting situation yet. Did you want Granderson to bunt for a base hit with nobody on? And "our leadoff man"? I didn't know you were on the team.
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Jimelnino
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I think this ump has the most obnoxious "Strike" call I've ever heard. How the hell did he come up with that?
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Cheddar_bob
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Yeah I don't know who the umpire is, but I've heard him before. Obnoxious indeed.
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Adamjab19
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Jim Joyce is his name. You can hear him on the damn radio.
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Jimelnino
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At the risk of sounding obnoxious myself.......

KAAIIIIIIIIIIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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65memories
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Tigers start off the season with a 3 - 1 win over the Royals. Good for Jim Leyland. A new era in Detroit?
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Tigers2005
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Let's go Tigers. I would like to see 85 wins, but I doubt it. I expect about 78 wins. I like the looks of some of the young pitchers that we have, though. This team could approach 90 wins if, and it's a big if, they can stay healthy. Looks like I need to get a new username.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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UNDEFEATED!!!!

Well done Tiggers! Shelton can just plain HIT
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Marcnbyr
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"why is our leadoff man NOT bunting? TWICE

Damn Leyland."


And last year it was "why is our leadoff man bunting? TWICE. Damn Trammell"

Make up your mind!
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Mackinaw
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It was a nice win.

We won our first game last year too, but here are some things that are different, which explain why we'll be in contention this year:
1) Kenny Rogers is in total control of all facets of the game when he is on the mound. If he is healthy, he gives us about 5-10 wins which we didn't have last year.
2) Loading our bullpen with top prospects like Zumaya, Tata, and Grilli is a great idea. It seems like the Trammell administration was afraid to get raw talent up here, let alone from opening day. Having the team integrated from day one the way it ought to be gives us a head start. The future is now. Give Leyland and his staff great raw talent...I trust them to take care of the rest.
3) Shelton has developed even more. Wow. We'll see if we can say the same about Granderson, Monroe, and Inge.
4) Guillen and Ordonez appear to be healthy and ready to do their jobs.
5) Placido Polanco is amazing. He was last year, too. The only difference is we have him starting in April this time!
6) Todd Jones isn't a long term solution but his health woes will not be as colossal as Troy Percival's.
7) Jim Leyland is a manager's manager and already sounds like he is ready to be more committed to Detroit and the organization than Trammell was in his role as manager.
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Rusty
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Chedder Bob, twice Brandon Inge lead off the inning with a base hit. TWICE, Granderson should have bunted him over and possibly used his speed for a bunt single. First non bunt attempt lead to an FC and the second lead to a fly out to right.

If Granderson was a 3 or 4 in the lineup, then so be it but 1,2,8 and 9 should defnitely bunt in that situation.
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Jtw
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with the possible exception of chris shelton, NO ONE looked better out there than joel zumaya. he's one to watch, that's for sure.
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Ray1936
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Hey. 162-0. So far, so good.
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Erikd
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Rusty,

Sacrifice bunting with a runner on first is a bad idea. Even if it works, you are still left with a runner at 2nd and one out, which still requires a base hit to score the runner. There is no reason to give up the out, and hope that the next guy can deliver in a pressure situation. Considering the fact that Curtis Granderson has been killing the ball this spring (.348 average, 5HR, and a 1.127OPS), telling him to bunt with a runner at first would be a terrible decision.

Alan Trammell's poor judgement in these situations is the reason why he was replaced.
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Smogboy
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Chris Shelton sure makes me forget about Carlos Pena awfully fast!

And whaddaya know? The pitching looked solid today! None too shabby so far. Ahhh...hope eternal! But then that's what fans do, right?
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Thrice
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As much as I like Big Chris today...

Remember DY in the opening game last year?

One game does not a season make.....
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Rusty
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EricD, we agree to disagree on this one. When a rookie with good speed (not to mention he had struck out at least once already) is up to bat, I'm pushing the runner over so Polanco or Pudge can knock them in......with a SINGLE. Same strategy 99% of the teams use when in a 1 run game in the last three innings. I would not force Granderson to bunt in ALL situations but both of these times, I would have pushed the runner over.

I will give Leyland major credit for going and sticking with Zumaya in the 7th-8th. He showed great instintcs in letting him go another inning. Tram would have rotated several pitchers in/out of the game matching the right/lefty lineup and it would have been a roller coaster 8th-9th.

Great job by Leyland but lay the bunt down when the big boppers aren't up.
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Smogboy
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Zumaya was a starter most of his career so I think physically he could've finished the game. Mentally he's still a rookie. Bringing in Rodney to close it out was the right decision.

It makes me forget all about the Trammell FUP scenario where he'd start it with Farnsworth, Urbina & Percival.
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Super_d
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Ya see, that's the difference in an experienced coach like Leland and a rookie coach like 'Tram'.

I'm sure 'Tram' would have bunted(we are not in a pennant race folks).... strategy is planned out in the long-term(baseball season is what? 164 games or so?

The first game of the season is not a good reason to play 'situational baseball'. I'm sure when the time is right, Lelands situational baseball will be played out!


super d(motordetroit)
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Jtw
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rusty, i agree. the old "single, steal, bunt, sac fly" is to generate runs in the early game. when you want runs late, don't take chances moving runners (ie, you should bunt) and rely on the heart of your lineup to drive in runs.

small ball. it works.
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Spitty
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My bet was for the Lions next season. I like to make long term bets and write them down, so when I lose, people forget that I lost. If the Lions go 8-8, and the Tigers are under .500, then I win. If the Lions somehow go 9-7, that would be a tough gap for the Tigers to make up. Honestly, I'd rather see the Tigers do well than the Lions, but I'm assuming they'll both be near the middle of the road.

I'm just glad to see baseball on TV again, and though I've been overly excited coming into every year about the Tigers, this year I'm a little more reserved. It seems that everyone else around the sports world is expecting a lot from the Tigers this year, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Glad to see new faces stepping up and contributing early, i just hope the team can get it together and be consistent.
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Spitty
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Here's what wether.com is saying for the real opening day:

Mon Apr 10 - Partly Cloudy - High 58/Low 44 20% Chance of precipitation

I can't wait. As long as it doesn't snow I'll be happy.
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Smogboy
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Spitty- you mean you'll be glad to see "baseball on CABLE TV again". There's an entirely different thread bemoaning the facts that the Tigers aren't on freebie TV anymore somewhere around here. But I agree, there is something to be said for just having baseball around again.
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Spitty
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Smogboy, for as long as I've been a TV addict, I don't remember ever not having cable tv, so that free TV issue doesn't affect me. The complaints that you might hear from me would be related to there not being enough games in High Def.

I just hope the guys that are supposed to be established solid major leaguers (Pudge, Guillen, Ordonez, Rogers) produce like we expect them to. The younger guys will feed off of them and make for some good baseball to watch.
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Play Ball!
opening day 2006
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Thecarl
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the weather was wonderful, the crowd was great, the people on the streets were happy and friendly. the only thing missing was the "w," but there's plenty of baseball left, and the tigers surely have better days ahead.

on a personal note, i brought my ten-week-old daughter to the game - what a blast! it was an early lesson in tradition and loyalty, which someday she'll understand. she was good the whole day through, and people were pretty tickled and enthusiastic about seeing such a young one joining the ranks of tigers fans!

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ thecarl/
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Mackinaw
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I was suprised when the Tigers couldn't produce a late-inning rally, but this was a great day as usual. I see this team going into September about 5 games over .500, and we'll see what happens after that.

My walk to the stadium took me through Brush Park in its entire length and I was happy to see so much improvement. Being a Monday, I noticed all of the active worksights (they're everywhere)...there are so many more plots being primed for additional townhouse development, and now the rehabs of the remaining 19th century homes are really firing. This is what will give BP character for the future. Some of the rehabs look a little better than others (in terms of architectural integrity), but all of it is a good thing,
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623kraw
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Nice panorama, Lowell. I assume that was today. I've never seen Comercial that crowded. Can't wait for a nite game...GO TIGES!!!
YEEHAAH
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Fury13
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"I was suprised when the Tigers couldn't produce a late-inning rally..."

Wasn't the White Sox closer, Bobby Jenks, throwing about 98-100 mph?
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Mackinaw
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So was Joel Zumaya. But Konerko hit a bomb off of him.

Yeah Jenks gets some props from me, but you can see my unhappiness with the Tigers not getting baserunners, and being kind of impatient at the plate.

After Thursday, the Tigers and White Sox don't clash until June 6th. I wonder if it will be a no. 1 v. no. 2 matchup then?

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