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Eric
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 35.11.210.161
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 2:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the timetable for work on this part Campus Martius?
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Valkyrias
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Post Number: 232
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

they are supposed to start working on it very soon, and should be done in time for the jazz fest in september.
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Sharmaal
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Post Number: 780
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard that they are shooting for June. With a guarantee that it'll be done for the jazz fest.
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Nellonfury
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 03-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About time!!!!!
The city must be having plans about the future buildings on Woodward Block(old hudson's site)and the Monroe Block to complete the Campus Martius project!!
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Detroitkev
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 04-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:26 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the desing plan for the park?
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Sharmaal
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The layout is similiar to the image Nellonfury posted. One end will be the fountain. The landscaping from the main park will be copied running the length of the strip on both sides.
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Eric
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Post Number: 421
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for info it'll be nice having Bagley Fountain back

Nellonfully CM is privately operated/funded completion of this part was tied to raising money not whatever the city is doing.
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Mackinaw
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Post Number: 1359
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 3:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a thought...a privately run (and largely privately funded park) for public use. I still can't believe how well the whole CMP deal has gone over. And yes, the Bagley fountain will be a great element to have there. Isn't the proposed location actually its original spot?
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Downtown_dave
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Post Number: 65
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 5:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Bagley Fountain was originally on the point where the old Woodward and Monroe streets intersected before the current Campus Martius "roundabout" scheme. The new location is a bit northeast of that - further down Monroe toward Greektown. I have many old postcards showing it in the original location.

I think this is (will be) Detroit's only example of H. H. Richardson's work. Erected in 1887, the fountain was Gov. John Judson Bagley's gift to the city. Richardson designed the fountain base so that ice could be packed around the pipes to provide water "cold and pure as the coldest mountain stream" just as its donor wished.
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Eastsidedog
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 03-2006
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 6:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is exciting. I love Campius Martius and budget woes can't hold this back. It's going to be a great summer. :-)
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Eastsidedog
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Post Number: 200
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 6:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't remember what the Bagley Fountain looks like. pics anyone?
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Eric_c
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Post Number: 697
Registered: 11-2003
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 6:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I remember correctly, Bagley Fountain sort of looks like an old-fashioned well. I recall it being made of brown stone. It has a squareish carved base with four decorative poles leading up to a hip-style roof. It's not very big - maybe a six by six foot base and twelve feet high?

Could be wrong about the dimensions - it's been removed for nearly ten years, and I don't recall it working then!
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Pam
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Post Number: 155
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Link with pic of fountain:

http://www.detroithistorical.o rg/collections/vewebsite2/exhi bit3/e30002b.htm
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Hornwrecker
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Post Number: 1036
Registered: 04-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


WSU/VMC
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Tetsua
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Post Number: 571
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't wait to see that at its new home, it looks really nice.
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1953
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Post Number: 759
Registered: 12-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope they find a nice place for the bums who really enjoy that area today!
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Hornwrecker
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Post Number: 1037
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cadillac Square, for as long as I can remember was one of the seedier areas of Downtown. Mostly parking, dive bars, and for your entertainment needs, the Gayety Theatre. Anything will be a big improvement over the good old days.


Cadillac Square
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Mackinaw
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Post Number: 1361
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 12:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow look at us bowing to the almighty car even in that photo (early 50s I'm guessing?). I'd like a few of those old buildings back, but Cadillac Square as a park will be better than using it as a parking lot or empty median.
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Eric_c
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Post Number: 698
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 8:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fountain is definitely bigger than I remembered it!

Between the picture of Cadillac Square posted above, and those recently posted 8mm films from '54, it shows how the "good old days" were awesome, but we certainly had/have room for improvement. From century to century, Detroit has done the best it could with what it had.
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Busterwmu
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 09-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 11:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm excited that work will soon begin at Cadillac Square. It'll be nice to have the Bagley Fountain back in operating order and as a headpiece at the end of the park. I hope they do some good flowerbed work in this park, and also that some of the trees they plant be flowering varieties, so that this time next year it'll look spectacular!

Does anyone know if any work is being planned for the Lower Woodward median from Campus Martius to Jefferson in terms of landscaping? That grass looks ok, but some ornamental trees, etc along there would be great. Otherwise tear out the grass and lay the streetcar rails back down!

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