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Mauser765
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FREEP

This is an image sent to me by my pal Dr.George. We both recently were taking pics of the old Freep building, and he was pondering this very odd symbol. (I think there are several)

I sent it around to my group of peeps, but nobody had a clue - what on earth IS this symbol, and how does it pertain to the Free Press, or the structure ? ?

Looks like a crop circle, alien writing or perhaps Masonic - a friend suggested Rosicrucian, but we couldnt figure how that would relate to the Freep.

Any ideas ?
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Chitaku
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:41 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

pic didnt show
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Bsu
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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes it did, just took a second to show up.
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Hornwrecker
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Mbr
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The artist formerly known as the free press building.
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Burnsie
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bump
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Thecarl
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colorado rockies helmet
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Crew
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 9:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sword = Knight?
R = Ridder?
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 9:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First thing I thought of:

prince
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Mauser765
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Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 10:11 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hahahahaha !

Seriously though - somebody has to know what that is. I might have to hit the research libraries to solve this one.
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Carptrash
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This is probably what is variously called a "printer's sign" or "printer's mark" or "printer's device" and they go back to Guttenburg. I can't say for sure, but looking around sites such as this:
http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/spec/ rarebook/devices/device.htm
might help. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
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Dougw
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Looks like the insignia for "carptrash". (there's the C, an R, a P, a T...)
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Carptrash
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DAMN.
Did you have to tell everyone?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeek
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Ray1936
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The question now is which one of us is going to contact the Freep and ask the question?
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The_rock
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As long as someone is contacting the Free Press, see how much they want for the building and maybe we could convince Kwame to put the Police Department in it.
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Jjaba
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Rock, trying to save another downtown building and turn a deal. Good on ya, mate.
But Rock, what about the sculpture?

jjaba, old Detroit Times newsboy.
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Carptrash
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I tried contacting the Freep [www.DFP.com is an odd place, by the way] and got mired down in various machines, finally got a real person, who did not seem to be enjoying his job much and, who put me back into the maze of mechanical loops. I
m passing the buck here. eeeeeeeeek
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Carptrash
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ps . .... I notice that Mauser765 is rapidly approaching his 765th posting. History in the making and you can be there. Anyway, it sounds like a party to me. eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeek
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Ddaydave
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Hmmmm I have an old argentine mauser 7.65 in my closet ...
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Rustic
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It is a printer's mark. It goes back to the early days of printing, printers would have a unique "trade mark" that they would place on either the title page or colophon. Old library buildings (or buildings that are meant to look old) are often decorated with old timey printer's marks set in stone. This one is probably some famous renaissance printer, a bit of searching should determine which one.
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Rustic
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oops, carptrash beat me to it ... eeeek!
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Jjaba
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Thanks Thekarl. Great hat.

jjaba's top ten ideas.

10. Charlie Rose
9. Chuck Rosenberg.
8. Clarence "Babe" Ruth
7. Clarita and Roselawn.
6. Clinton and Ronica.
5. Coleman Rung.
4. Caxton P-Rinters.
3. St. Cecilia Riena.
2. Chilly River.
1. Cass Rorridor.

jjaba.
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Rustic
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a pious ivy leaguer might see this
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Jdkeepsmiling
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Where is that from Rustic???
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Jdkeepsmiling
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I found something very similar to this as the printers mark of John Siberch, the first printer out of Cambridge. Here is the link. I did find that he used four versions relatively similar, so maybe this was a later one.
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Livernoisyard
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BTW, Ritter auf deutsch means knight.
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Rustic
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jdm', I gave enough of a hint ...

It is not the possession of truth, but the success which attends the seeking after it, that enriches the seeker and brings happiness to him. -- Max Planck
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Jjaba
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Rustic, waxing poetically.

jjaba.
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Jjaba
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Detroit Free Press, 321 W. Lafayette. Albert Kahn, 1923-25. Perhaps some of your Albert Kahn books can explain it. Limestone facade. The bldg. does a nice job of facing Washington Blvd.'s broad expanse.

jjaba.
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Ray1936
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Bump
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Rms
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Harvard Divinity School, Sperry Room windows in Andover Hall.
Richard Grafton. England. Working period: 1534-1573. A very eminent printer, Grafton undertook the printing of Bibles in 1538, and was appointed as king's printer for Edward VI in 1547. His mark consists of his initials, which was actually part of a more elaborate design consisting of a tree grafted on a tun, which symbolized his name. This design also included a biblical inscription, quoted from James 1:21, "Receive the engrafted word."
http://www.hds.harvard.edu/new s/article_archive/windows.html
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Rustic
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oh pooh! The sport is in the hunt not the meat.
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^^He called the shit pooh!"^^
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Ray1936
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Good work, all. I think we have a collective IQ of.....well, since I bring it down a bit, let's not go any further....... :-)

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