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http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2006 0417/SUB/60414028/-1/toc
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kelli1
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Congrats kbkav! Well deserved. Keep up the good work.
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Thanks for that Lowell!!!!
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Too funny how you removed the wire cover and exposed the wires. Congrats Kelli Kavanaugh.
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When Crain's announced they were taking nominations for this category, Kelli is one of the first I thought of who would make a good candidate.

If anyone deserves this award it's Kelli. Congrats and thanks for staying in the trenches for all those years!
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Ditto to what Lowell + Bvos say. Hear, hear!

And thanks, Lowell, for the appropriate cleanup on this thread.
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thanks for the kind words although honestly, i wish this thread was titled "20 in their 20's" and was linked to http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2006 0417/SUB/60414005/-1/toc - there's 19 other interesting folks featured on that list...

i think that crain's did a good thing by drawing attention to why some young people have decided to stay here when our ongoing "brain drain" is a real issue for this region.
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Congrats Kelli!
Corktown was lucky to have you, as is Model D, and Detroit as a whole.
I am so proud of you!
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That's excellent. Bravo kbkav!
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Great job!!!
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Kelli, you deserve it. Congrats !

And as Kelli had pointed out above, the rest of the other 19 individuals deserve our kudos as well.

2 other persons on that list whom I know are Matt and Austin. Congratulations, guys !
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the one guy on the list, Qasim is my frat brother. PHI BETA SIGMA.


Congrats to all on the list...
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"...there's 19 other interesting folks featured on that list... " < -- That's true but your the one closest to our hearts.
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Did you just do a shout out to your frat brother? Go get'em "dude".
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Yay Kelli, I owe you a drink!
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Not to rub it in, but it was your last year of eligibiliy :-)
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I also owe you a drink! Congrats...and thank you for all that you've done for Detroit.
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Congratulations to the 20 in their 20s. Stories like these are encouraging on one hand, however, I temper my enthusiasm by coming to the realization over the years that things aren't always as they seem on the surface (either through one's personal promotion and/or media portrayal).

I know several of the people on the list and they are all pretty good individuals. However, the "work your way up" or "pull yourself up from the bootstraps" angle isn't always the case.

Let's just say that a least a few of the people are from very wealthy families (nothing wrong with that) and that advantage has definitely smoothed their path to where they are (and where they're headed) today.

Again, not trying to critcize, just pointing out the other side of the story.
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Hey Metro - I know several on the list to and they were Kilpatrick and McPhail supporters hahaha (just had to get you riled up) :-)
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Of course you "know them" "Ilovedetroit". I'm sure that "you've been to their houses too". Although you "don't like their furniture", right. :-)
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Metrodetguy...nice. You say you don't want to critisize, but you do. Coming from money and making your life about the community is very commendable. Maybe it would be better if people who came from money made their lives about themselves. Everyone needs a pat on the back for a job well done.
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Tamber,
WELL SAID!

This is about those who do, whatever their background.
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Tamber, how is pointing out an aspect of (some of) their lives that is underreported/misrepresented/u nreported/etc. the same as criticizing?
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I agree with Metro, let's just say that when you don't have to worry about making rent and car payments every month it's a heckuva lot easier to start your own "boutique" in Birmingham when you're only 24 or whatever...
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Are you kidding? The point of the story is that these people are making a diference here in Detroit when so many of their successful peers have chosen to make lives elsewhere. What the hell does this have to do with how much money their parents make?
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Yeah because planning bachelor parties and selling clothes in Birmingham really helps out the Community...

I'm not trying to take anything away from some (not all and definately not the community folks like Kelli) of these guys. I'm sure they're all quite lovely and I'm glad they're making themselves some money up there in Franklin and Rochester and Warren.
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susanrosa - you're really going to make this a city vs suburb thing????
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I don't believe that this had anything to do with the city itslef but the metro region as a whole. I am happy that it seems that the majority on the list choose Detroit as home.
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I've never made a single thing on this board a city/suburb thing, to be honest I hate the city/suburb thing.

But look back to what was written above and in Crains about folks giving back to the community and then tell me how rich kids getting richer (in some of these cases) is really worth recognition?
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" I'm sure they're all quite lovely and I'm glad they're making themselves some money up there in Franklin and Rochester and Warren."

that sounds condescending towards the suburbs to me.


The mission of creating the list was to highlight 20 people under 30 who are making a creative difference. They didn't have to live in city proper and they didn't have to have some rags to riches cinderella story.
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I grew up in the suburbs Jfried, why would I be condescending to the suburbs?

I understand the mission of this type of a story I just wish they'd found some more people who seemed to have more than the capitalistic bottom-line as their goal. But I guess that's what you get when Crain's writes the article.
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Not to make this a typical city vs suburbs thing...

Jt1, actually (according to information contained in the article) "the majority on the list" residence are unknown or suburban.
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I checked the profiled of all of the them and the last part either lists where they live or references to living in the city.

Check your facts Metro
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No check your facts Jt1. I also read the profiles. References to working/going to school in the city are not the same thing as living in the city. Some specifically mentioned living in the city. Some specifically mentioned living outside the city. Several were not specific to actual residence.
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If you read the profiles it alludes to living in the city. The only suburban ones listed are AA and Royal Oak. That is 2 of 20 so your claim of either or unknown or suburban is a bit of the mark.
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Not to jump in this pissing contest between you two but under their names at the top of the profiles it lists a city. You can infer whatever you want regarding what these cities mean but there were more than two suburban cities listed.
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The top refers to their business or the location of their business/company.
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Jt1, I'll break this down for you. (As Susanarosa mentioned, check directly below their names). Although, my interpretation (as well as knowing several of the profiled individuals) says that the city listed is where they do business.

In addition to the three references to Ann Arbor/Washtenaw County and one reference to Royal Oak, I can personally add Birmingham, Dearborn, and Troy to that list. Rochester is also mentioned. Also, as I said, at least 5 or 6 were not specific as to residence. 12, 13, or 14 equals a majority of 20.
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Thanks for 'breaking it down for me'. We seem to be reading different articles but I appreciate the consistency in your condescending bullshit.

Have you ever been mistaken? Please break it down by person as I know a few and know they live in the city and some specifically list Detroit or downtown.

Actually 11 is a majority in 20 (I could have sworn that you were smart enough to know that)and I believe that there is a majority or close to it living in the city.
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My guess is the two anonymous ones are smartly avoiding the usury car insurance rates.
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susana - I just sounded like you had a problem that they were making their money in the suburbs. I'm just sick of the "if you're not living in detroit PROPER, you're a traitor" attitude. I know I over react about this sort of thing often. I'm just sick of it.

I totally get your point about focusing more on people who are really making a difference in the community - but like you pointed out, crain's is a business magazine.
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goddamn! Who would have figured that this thread could actually git stooopider AFTER Mr. Lowell disinfected it? Wow!
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Gannon - Sad but possibly true.

Rustic - Good point. I'll abstain from anymore banter with Metro.

Congrats to the 20 whether their endeavours are in the private, for profit sector as they will create jobs and businesses that add to the community or the ones that are working in the community for the greater good.

The area needs people that open business and/or help the community. Helping people is needed but so are the jobs.
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Jt1, at least you admitted to being wrong once before about my residencey, before you continued to attack me. Maybe your interpretation on this matter is as "accurate" as your bulk trash claims. And talk about being consistenly condescending...

Now how about you break it down since your track record for accuracy is so "great". You're another one of those so-called Detroit supporters that views anything that is not completely favorable to Detroit and against the suburbs as being against Detroit.
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Movin' on to keep this about the 20 in their 20s. Choosing not to make it all about me.
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More disingenousness/dishonesty from Jt1. "Moving on" consist of moving on to other threads to continue attacking someone because he's mad about being shown to be wrong about something (as usual).
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Nope - Just didn't want to bog down a thread about 20 people doing great things.

Please start a thread on the connections and I will continue to mock you and how perfect you are. It however does not belong on this thread.
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Likewise, Jt1 I'll continue to call you out when you make bogus claims. I am glad to see that you've "moved on" and "it isn't all about you".

You're either for Detroit (by denying deficiencies/wrong and/or making up things to cover for deficiencies/wrong) or against it.
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What a pack of Idiots!

Take a great story about some talented and motivated young people and turn it into a bicker-fest. Get over yourselves, nobody really cares that much about your opinions anyway.

Congrats to the 20, hopefully they'll keep it up and continue to be the entrepreurial leaders the region desperately needs.
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Ditto, Rrl. I know several of those on the list, and their efforts should be lauded, not nitpicked. As for the assumption that they're rich, well that hardly applies to the ones on the list I know. They're doing what they love to do, and believe me they're not getting rich doing it. At least not yet.
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quote:

They're doing what they love to do, and believe me they're not getting rich doing it. At least not yet.




And whose to fault them if they get rich. They are still creating jobs, paying taxes and supplying the community with businesses. More power to them if they get rich doing it

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