  Oliverdouglas Member Username: Oliverdouglas Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 69.209.181.108 |
I read in Bagley Community newsletter about project to create a median down Livernois between 8-Mile and Fenkel. Anybody know any details? | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 3679 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.160.138.107 |
Are you referring to Fenkell? (The street formerly known as 5 Mile Road.) Welcome to the Forum. Happy Trails. jjaba. | ||
Jltyler Member Username: Jltyler Post Number: 277 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 69.220.233.200 |
They've had this project in the works for at least 3 years. The money to do this was state grant money that if not used was going to go back to the state. The barrells are out on livernois right now and I was told construction will start in 2 weeks. It is supposed to help the buisness by establishing slanted parking and slower the traffic. To late for our store though were going out of buisness now and have been on the avenue of fashion for 10 years. | ||
Oliverdouglas Member Username: Oliverdouglas Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 69.209.181.108 |
Yes, Fenkell. I grew up in Livonia where it is known as Five Mile - still how I think of it, 'tho I've lived in the city for twenty years now. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1407 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.238.170.39 |
That's a ridiculously wide road in that area. I'm glad to see that they're narrowing it down and adding on street parking. The boulevards should also allow for safer and easier pedestrian crossing. | ||
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.217.214.203 |
This is good news to hear. I've been meaning to get up to the "Avenue of Fashion" area for some time now. I'm excited that Livernois will be treated in this area. There's a lot of wealth in the surrounding areas creating a lot of potential for increased development and prosperity. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 3680 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.160.138.107 |
Rocket_city, welcome to the Forum. jjaba, Westsider on the Livernois bus crossing W. Outer Drive going to Bakers. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 3681 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.160.138.107 |
Just passed orange cones out left window. (Did you know they are the State Flower of Ohio?) Ride I-75 or the Ohio Pike. jjaba rests his case. jjaba, bought a car at Packer Pontiac on Livernois. | ||
Tayshaun22 Member Username: Tayshaun22 Post Number: 71 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.14.101.116 |
Sorry jjaba, they've changed it to "Fenkel" in the past 30 years that you haven't lived in Detroit. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1408 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.238.170.39 |
Who's "they"? The street signs all still say Fenkell. | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 72.229.136.103 |
Anytime frame for the change to a blvd? That area has alwasy looked beautiful. I went to middle school over there and I think making it a 4 lane blvd would /could create more small business and make the area even more appealing. Great idea!313 | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1590 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.209.138.120 |
The narrowing of Livernois is necessary, especially between Seven Mile and Eight Mile. However, instead of just putting a median down the middle of the street, they need to widen the sidewalks. This would attract any restaurants interested in having outdoor seating. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1633 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
Good idea Royce. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 3689 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.160.138.107 |
Royce thinks Livernois goes Royal Oak. LOL. jjaba. | ||
Dettitan Member Username: Dettitan Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.246.127.103 |
I noticed the orange barrels the other day and it is the first thing I thought about because I once heard a rumor that they were thinking about doing that. I wish it would go from 8 mile all the way down to Fenkel. But as it stands currently, the barrels start at Florence St., which is the entrance to University of Detroit (Mercy, argh!). The barrels end before 7 mile at Margareta St. and the End Road Work sign is just past 7 mile. So as it stands right now, the median will only be just over a mile long. I hope they extend it at least to the Lodge and at least to 8 Mile. I also hope they get rid of the "Cobra head" lighting fixtures and install new street lamps as well as replacing the hanging traffic signals with the ones on posts. I really want to see all of this done because it will help to spruce up the area around U of D. I heard originally that they wanted it to end at 6 mile, but the University petitioned for it to come further south. Here is a link to an image that I made of where the contruction is at currently. At first they only had the center turn lane, and one lane on northbound Livernois blocked off. Now they have 3 lanes, the center and one on each side. http://img135.imageshack.us/im g135/4793/construction5pl.jpg | ||
Tomoh Member Username: Tomoh Post Number: 161 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.40.191.146 |
This is great news. Detitan, thanks for the map... does the big red box mean they are fixing up that area just north of 7 Mile? That business district seems to just be crying out for some outdoor cafe life. If only Outer Drive between Livernois and Wyoming were a more solid retail or mixed use road... Detroit could really use more neighborhoods with parallel retail streets less than half a mile apart. | ||
Chow Member Username: Chow Post Number: 285 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.136.148.83 |
I've seen some renderings of the project, along with some redevelopments the DCDC has planned for the area. It will be a huge boost for the area. That stretch has the potential to become a resturant/retail destination for the surrounding neighborhoods. | ||
Dettitan Member Username: Dettitan Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.246.127.103 |
Tomoh, The red box is approx. where the sign that said "End of Road Work" and where the speed limit went back up to 35 mph is. Chow, could you dig up the renderings for us if you remember where you found them...if they are online of course. I would love to see them as I am in that area so often, and often wish for many improvements. | ||
Dnvn522 Member Username: Dnvn522 Post Number: 105 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 204.24.64.25 |
The project will run all the way to 8 Mile. The original plans for the project had it starting at McNichols, but it might have been extended to the University after the project was bid. | ||
Dettitan Member Username: Dettitan Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.246.127.103 |
I wish it would run at least to Puritan. That is where are campus block starts, although that is only the dorms and student parking. Having it start at the University address I am sure was a nice comprise though, and will make the area look alot better. | ||
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c Post Number: 711 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.21.62.206 |
I sort of thought running the boulevard to Puritan would help, too. There are a bunch of new homes and condos going up in Pilgrim Village, just barely east of Livernois off Puritan. I agree too, it should be extended to the Lodge. I'll take what I can get, though. | ||
Michigansheik Member Username: Michigansheik Post Number: 138 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 68.40.107.39 |
i think that's a great start out in some neighborhoods.....downtown is chugging along, lets get the hoods going. | ||
Udmphikapbob Member Username: Udmphikapbob Post Number: 133 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 206.81.45.34 |
from what i understand, plans call for it to go to the Lodge...but the one neighborhood where lots of people vote is north of mcnichols - so that area gets done first. i think they will need more funding approved to extend it south to the freeway. they also made the island smaller than initially planned, and they don't yet have the money for landscaping it. | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 492 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 12.2.196.17 |
I'm still on the fence about this though. I mean, Livernois is already crowded and cutting it down a lane won't help out. Plus there always seems to be problems with the water pipes (hence the huge potholes south of McNichols. Can you imagine if they shut lanes down here? | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1661 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
I don't think they are going to removing lanes. But there is no reason people should be driving down a city street at 45 mph. This median can do a lot to help the area IMHO. The cars have to be encouraged to slow down. Maybe if it takes a little longer to get to Northland or RO, or if you don't fear the cars from the sidewalk, more residents will shop there. | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 495 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 12.2.196.17 |
Not really. I attended the meeting with Sheila Cockrel a couple of months ago. The design basically calls for a grass median in the middle while keeping left turning lanes (a la W. Outer Drive). Parking is still allowed on the right lanes. I do agree that this will slow people down, but for those who have driven on Livernois, we know that those parallel parkers hold everyone up. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1662 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
Those parallel parked cars also help keep the businesses going and protect pedestrians from cars. They are more important than the median. |
