Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 948 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 11:25 pm: | |
started wondering today & I admit I haven't paid much attention while in other cities, but do many other American cities have as much public art in them as Detroit does? (not talkin' taggers here) |
Messykitty Member Username: Messykitty
Post Number: 3 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 67.160.165.130
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 12:00 am: | |
Portland requires projects of a certain size to include public art in the plans in order to pass design review. We have public art everywhere here. While there are entire urban parks that are sculptures in themselves, there is also a piece that is merely a permanent water bowl for dogs. While some of it is not quite my tea, it does add tremendously to the streetscape. I have always been proud of (if a little surprised by) the amount (and sometimes the quality) of public art in Detroit. |
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001
Post Number: 2130 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.14.135.95
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:05 am: | |
There are a ton of statues around the downtown area. What exactly are you looking for? |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 949 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:39 am: | |
I started thinking about this while wandering yesterday when it dawned on me that while in Chicago last weekend I don't recall seeing any. I was up around Loyola/Water Tower/big bucks Michigan Ave. And thinking about NYC I mainly remember the big works in Rockefeller Center and the Central Park area. Or did I just not notice smaller pieces placed here and there like Detroit has? |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1279 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 12:02 pm: | |
Hey Lilpup!! The Wayne State Press book "Art in Detroit Public Places" by Dennis Nawrocki (photos by David Clements) covers 120 sites featuring publicly accessible art in 5 areas: Downtown, Belle Isle and East; Cultural Center; West and South; and North and Northwest. (For more info: http://wsupress.wayne.edu/glb/ art/nawrockiadpp.htm) You might enjoy the Preservation Wayne walking tour on Downtown Sculptures, Fountains, and Art. The 2006 dates for this tour are: May 30, July 4, August 8, September 12. (For more info: http://www.preservationwayne.o rg/tours_downtown3.php) Of course, there continues to be new art popping up around the city since the Nawrocki book was published. The Josephine Ford Sculpture Garden at CCS (John R and Kirby) and the Labor Monument in Hart Plaza are two notable additions. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 950 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 12:26 pm: | |
I really like the Labor monument - it looks so socialist but I don't like the riverfront condos for the same reason but no one's answered my question yet other than about Portland - do other major cities have extensive art, too, or is this another special thing about Detroit? I know D.C. does, but it's freakish with all the monuments - like a mix between a war zone and a cemetery |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 168 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 4.229.81.141
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 7:25 pm: | |
Seattle seems to have a lot. http://www.seattleoutdoorart.c om/ My fave one that I saw was the Fremont Troll: http://www.roadsideamerica.com /attract/WASEAtroll.html |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1281 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 8:08 pm: | |
Maybe the Arts USA (Americans for the Arts) Public Art Network would have statistics on how much public art the U.S. major cities have: http://www.artsusa.org/service s/public_art_network/ They have an online form to submit research and informational questions: http://www.artsusa.org/staff_e mail.asp?u=research&d=artsusa. org&n=Research+and+Information +Staff&t=Research+and+Informat ion |
Leoqueen
Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1267 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 8:53 pm: | |
The John Egner mural on the side of the Park Shelton, and the Kurt Novak mural on the side of the former Dell Pryor Galleries building in Harmonie Park are being 'destroyed by neglect'. What can be done about this? The Al Loving mural on the side of the First National Building was sandblasted off a few years ago, but you can still see a faint outline of it. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 9:37 pm: | |
Who put a mural of John Engler on the Park Shelton?? who is going to want to live there now? |
Leoqueen
Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1268 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.204
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 10:53 pm: | |
Detroitplanner, thanks for making my day.....I needed a laugh. You WERE joking, werent you? |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1074 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.138
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:31 pm: | |
I don't think there is a wall big enough in the city to put a life-size Engler on it. |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 177 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:33 pm: | |
Los Angeles has alot of Murals |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 2377 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2006 - 11:40 pm: | |
John Engler and Arts should never be used in the same sentence together! Now as far as the John Egner piece on the side of the park Shelton... I love seeing that mural on my drives down Woodward. It's my landmark to let me know I'm in the Cultural Center. And as I turn left onto Kirby, I get met with all of that great sculpture in the Josephine Ford Sculpture Garden. It's some pretty amazing stuff to which I wish more people knew about it. There are some pretty landmark pieces in there. |
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis
Post Number: 46 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 71.227.102.82
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 1:41 pm: | |
when I was a kid I remember seeing a chrome, maybe car parts statue on John R if I'm remembering correctly. Is that still around? I haven't seen it in a while. |
Leoqueen
Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1269 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 207.74.195.249
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 1:50 pm: | |
The chrome car parts horse now resides in front of the Children's Museum. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 2385 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 6:40 pm: | |
I miss the old Children's Museum on Kirby there! Granted the sapce was quite tight and confining but it was such a fixture there for so many years. http://www.detroitchildrensmus eum.org/ I remember climbing all over that chrome horse as a kid; I probably shouldn't have now that I think about it. Does anyone remember the name of that thing?? |
Leoqueen
Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1271 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 68.73.201.64
| Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 7:00 pm: | |
Silver {hiiiii hooooo, away!] |
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 747 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.69.233
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:04 am: | |
No public art in Chicago ????? WHAT ? Too much time wearing beer goggles on Rush street Im guessing. That downtown is freaking loaded with all sorts of art. |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 961 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.129.146.186
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 10:51 am: | |
nope, no beer goggles but maybe in the wrong area of downtown to see it - where is it? all over by the museum & aquarium? I was up by the water tower/shopping district & Loyola |
Downtown_dave Member Username: Downtown_dave
Post Number: 66 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 63.77.247.130
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:03 am: | |
Lilpup, as Mauser noted, Chicago IS full of large-scale public art. At Daley Civic Center Plaza (not far from your Miracle Mile shopping) you'll find a primitive-mask Corten steel Picasso sculpture and another abstracted woman by Joan Miró. Nearby, a bank plaza features a Matisse mosaic wall mural and the curving State of Illinois building features a pair of cartoon-like puzzle-piece sculptures by Jean Dubuffet. Around the city are other modern works: the Bat column by Claes Oldenburg, a Calder stabile, a Noguchi fountain behind the Art Institute, and among the newest is the polished steel "Bean" in Millennium Park. Elsewhere, on the south side of the city are major works by Lorado Taft on the grounds of the former World's Columbian Exposition, where the University of Chicago sits. And then there's the sculptural architecture itself - but that is for another topic! |
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup
Post Number: 962 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.129.146.186
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:31 pm: | |
ha! I wish I could afford to shop there! I daren't even step foot in those stores lest I get tossed out. I was wandering around looking at the architecture that's why I wondered if I just missed the art, but everything you listed was farther south. |
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 748 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.69.226
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 2:19 pm: | |
Yeah, I wandered downtown Chicago for three days and nights and never stopped finding art everywhere I looked. They even have some Wyland whales. |
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch
Post Number: 1470 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 2:37 pm: | |
You forgot about Chagall's 4 Seasons at Dearborn and Monroe and Nevelson's Dawn Shadows at Wells and Madison. One of the great pleasures of living there was getting off of the train and walking to school every day from one end of the loop to the other and passing all of these unbelievable pieces. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 2:51 pm: | |
Queen, yes that was sarcasm. I knew you wrote that correctly, I just wanted to sound like it had taken me by surprise. Coulr you even imagine an Engler Mural? Heck we don't even have a Young Mural, and he at least defended the City. |