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Cmubryan
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Username: Cmubryan

Post Number: 247
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 68.42.169.179
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone knows how much I love this city but the city management absolutely plain sucks. Just an example of how unresponsive and slow this city is: There is a traffic light in the heart of downtown Detroit at the corner of Woodward and Witherall just south of GCP. The red light on Witherall on the east side of Woodward has been out for over 2 months. How many city officals/elected officals/important people drive by this daily?! Yet nothing gets done. Now, the green light on the same corner on Woodward has been out for over three weeks. We install these brand new shining traffic lights and can't even change a simple traffic light and this is in the heart of downtown!! I can't even imagine how many aren't taken care of throughout the neighborhoods. It is absolutely ridiculous and even though it is such a small thing is an example of the crappy management of this city. If we can't even do something so small such as this task, how are we ever going to move some of the mountains that we have ahead of us? Take any surrounding suburb and this would not be allowed. I live downtown and I will continue to do so but when people wonder why it seems like we aren't moving forward at times take a look at who we have running this city!
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Oldredfordette
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Username: Oldredfordette

Post Number: 651
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 68.60.177.56
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What, is the Super Bowl coming up? We don't need lights unless there is a SuperBowl.
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Northend
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Username: Northend

Post Number: 920
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 69.220.232.15
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

city officials, cops, buses, etc don't stop at red lights anyway. They'll never notice
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Lilpup
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Username: Lilpup

Post Number: 958
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 152.163.100.8
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and the T intersection at Witherall & Adams has no traffic control lights or signs whatsoever
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Rberlin
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Username: Rberlin

Post Number: 524
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.76.54.108
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn, I was expecting a Polish joke...
Anyway one solution might be to privatize non-essential city services. I don't blame the workers necessarily, but the Mayor/CCs' friends who get these jobs and are never pressured to perform their actual jobs.
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Jsmyers
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Username: Jsmyers

Post Number: 1659
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 209.131.7.68
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 8:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or could it be that the people assigned to change light bulbs on traffic lights in a 139 square mile vehicle centered city have a big back log?

Maybe the question is why they have a backlog?

Maybe Rberlin is on the right track, but maybe they don't have the right equipment, information, communication, or something else they need to do their jobs.
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Alexei289
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Username: Alexei289

Post Number: 1107
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.61.183.223
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 9:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

.... the city has a 2 billion dollar budget... im sure they can afford to change some traffic lights...

how bout a better question... where the fuk does 2 billion dollars go if they lights arent even on??
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Deputy_mayor_2026
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Username: Deputy_mayor_2026

Post Number: 17
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 64.12.116.204
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How come there are so many traffic lights that are not in use (hanging on their side behind other lights)? Are these ready replacements for the ones that the city expects to be vandalized or break?
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Thecarl
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Post Number: 725
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 69.14.30.175
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

.... the city has a 2 billion dollar budget... im sure they can afford to change some traffic lights...

how bout a better question... where the fuk does 2 billion dollars go if they lights arent even on??




OUTED!!! alexei = l. brooks patterson!
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Jsmyers
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Username: Jsmyers

Post Number: 1660
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 68.255.164.15
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

How come there are so many traffic lights that are not in use (hanging on their side behind other lights)? Are these ready replacements for the ones that the city expects to be vandalized or break?



There is an ongoing project to replace signals across the city.

They new ones have to be strung up and tested before the old ones can be removed. There is an overlap.
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Michigansheik
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Username: Michigansheik

Post Number: 134
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 68.40.107.39
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 10:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Woodward is a state controlled road, blame MDOT or at least tell them first.
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Alexei289
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Username: Alexei289

Post Number: 1110
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.61.183.223
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 1:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is isnt downtown south of GCP...
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Deputy_mayor_2026
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Username: Deputy_mayor_2026

Post Number: 18
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 152.163.100.8
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it must be a project that is quite backed up, but then again with a major city it must be an ongoing one. Jsmyers, thanks for the information though.
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Ro_resident
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Username: Ro_resident

Post Number: 157
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 63.85.13.248
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 9:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Woodward is a city road between Jefferson and Adams, so you should call Detroit DPW at the 311 number or their general number is 313-224-3900 to report a problem.
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Michigansheik
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Username: Michigansheik

Post Number: 142
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 63.65.97.67
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 1:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

3 months ago the traffic light at woodward and congress was out. I called public lighitng, 313-224-0500 and the gentleman told me he would contact MDOT via wayne county roads to fix it since it was a state run road. Since that is between Jefferson and Adams I would call public lighting and ask them if MDOT can help.

Tell them those blue round lights installed on the people mover track before superbwo at park and woodward are 80% burned out now too.

The general number to 311 is 313-224-INFO(4636) although many city numbers forward there now.
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The_rock
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Username: The_rock

Post Number: 1152
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 68.42.251.225
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 1:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few years ago, the pedestal light on the NE corner of Congress and Wash Blvd. was out. I called two or three different numbers and was finally told it had been previously reported as "not operating", but had been added to the repair list.
I think it took a good 6 months to get it operable. Fortunately, the intersection was controlled by other lights so maybe the pedestal light was not high on the priority list ( unless you were a pedestrian).
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Homer
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Username: Homer

Post Number: 45
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 69.242.221.113
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 2:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In SW Detroit the I-75 service drive at Junction and several other streets have had non-functioning traffic signals for over a year. The City's solution? Put up stop signs and make it a 4 way stop. Much easier to blow through the intersection now on my way to Duly's.
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Zulu_warrior
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Username: Zulu_warrior

Post Number: 2766
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.251.27.41
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 2:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just need to know if anybody actually contact PLD?
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Genesyxx
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Username: Genesyxx

Post Number: 489
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 12.2.196.17
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 3:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have to keep bugging until a) they listen and put it on their list. b) they stop answering their phones.
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Jt1
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Username: Jt1

Post Number: 7228
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 198.208.159.19
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 4:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WHich begs the question - why doesn't Detroit have a web based site to file these reports and check on status.

Could cut a lot of people from the phones and delete many duplicate calls as well as tracks metrics on resolution time.

You could have top DPS students work as interns and set this stuff up with the oversight and review of the CoD IT management staff or integrator.
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Alexei289
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Username: Alexei289

Post Number: 1115
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.61.183.223
Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 5:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how many PLD people does it take to change a lightbulb ;)


seriously tho... how fukin hard can it be to stockpile a shitload of lightbulbs and run down each street changing bulbs as you see them out?? i mean... why should it take a complaint to realize a bulb doesnt work after driving down a street? fuk.. if it dont work... CHANGE IT
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Cmubryan
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Username: Cmubryan

Post Number: 248
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 68.42.169.179
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 12:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly and almost every other city in Michigan can change a traffic light when it is out, it is sad that the largest city in the state doesn't have capabilities to do that.

Another example of the lack of responsibility and management is they put those beautiful nice blue bulbs on the DPM track in front of the Whitney building for the Superbowl then surely one is out, two are out, three, etc. I think all but one or two are working now. It's so senseless, we install these beautiful features but just let them rot and can't even do easy maintenance on them.
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Nellonfury
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Username: Nellonfury

Post Number: 140
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 68.43.156.135
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 7:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with you 100% Homer. Some intersections in Downtown Detroit has old non-functioning traffic signals with stop signs.That's not call management, that's call being lazy.The city NEEDS to take then down for good. The funny thing about all of this, the city is installing new signals all over town but they can't change a bulb and taking down the non-functioning signals. What a joke!!!
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Busterwmu
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Username: Busterwmu

Post Number: 242
Registered: 09-2004
Posted From: 24.247.221.241
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 9:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How many lighthing employees does it take to change a lightbulb, you may ask? 903749503! That's why they rarely get fixed!
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Jerome81
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Username: Jerome81

Post Number: 977
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 64.142.86.133
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 3:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I get a bigger laugh out of the stoplights in all those abandoned neighborhoods where they gotta help traffic move from prairie to prairie.

Drive up St Aubin sometime.

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