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Detroitman
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Post Number: 969
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 7:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eastern Market revival planned

For control, nonprofit vows to put $30M into venue

Louis Aguilar / The Detroit News
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060427/B IZ/604270348/1001
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Detroitduo
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 8:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This should have been done 10 or 20 years ago.

I am glad to see this and I hope they are successful. My Childhood years were spent at Easter Market and it is my absolute favorite spot to go to, on Saturdays. It would be great to have this as a 7-days-a-week shopping area.

I'm looking forward to this.
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Jsmyers
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 5:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lets hope city council signs off smoothly.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 6:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yea, something tells me it wont go smoothly with CC though.... Just a hunch :-)
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Gistok
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 6:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love the architectural renditions of the 4 Victorian buildings, but it's too bad that they don't recreate a 5th building that used to be to the left of R. Hirt & Co.

That was the 2 or 3 story Fronterra Brothers Building (Hornwrecker, can you find a pic?), another Victorian jewel that was lost in a fire in the 1980's, and not rebuilt. They could easily do a recreation of a new building with a faux Victorian facade. That would make the block complete again.
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Jsmyers
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 6:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great point Gistok.

I think if the vision for the market comes to fruition, the parcel will be desirable to build on.
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Hornwrecker
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 11:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is all I can come up with on an initial search, an aerial from the 1920-30s. I'll have a look at some other sources when I get the time, guessing around 2400 block of Market St.

Market St aerial

The rest of this photo shows how conveniently located Eastern Mkt was to the old DeHoCo.
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Hornwrecker
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Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 1921 map of that block.

Market St map 1921
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This needs some urban styling look at all of those parking lots with the stores behind them. Thats just terrible. No wonder Eastern Market has gone to hell. ; )
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Schoolcraft
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome. Bring back Joe Muers also.
Man, was that place great!
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 11:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schoolcraft, welcome, are you a Brightmoorington?
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Eastsidedog
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 3:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitplanner, I love eastern market and judging by the massive crowds there every week I wouldn't say it's gone to hell. I love the market just as it is. I love all the chaos, dirt, noise and grime (and the great selection, fresh foods and cheap prices of course). After all it's an open air market. I hope no one tries to make it into a goddamned lifestyle center.
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Gmich99
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 4:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will Gratiot Market be included in any of these plans. Just a guess, but I figure Gratiot Market does more dollars worth of business than that of Eastern Market. Its just across the highway and forms an important part of the market community around Eastern Market.
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Jams
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 4:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eastern Market is really not a retail center, that's just a bonus, its day-to-day operations is based on its wholesale located there.
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 4:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eastside, I agree. I was just making an attempt at humour, some folks get way too freaked out here when it comes to parking lots.
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Eastsidedog
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 5:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gotcha Detroitplanner. Sorry to flip out. People changing one of my favorite places in the city just has me on edge...
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Broken_main
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Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 12:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I haven't been here for a few weeks... Is there any news on this project. I think its a wonderful concept and it would make Eastern Market even more of a destination for out of towners. It would be a perfect way to keep people coming downtown for longer periods of time.

Also the addition of a more diverse selection of marketable goods is an excellent way to get people of all cultures together. This would be the DIY Chefs oasis!!
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Gistok
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Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 1:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I take it that this means that Alex Pollock's whimsical animal murals on the market sheds are going to be history? They always added a touch of humor to the streetscape. Kids especially loved them.
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Broken_main
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Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 10:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everybody loves em!!! You can't always beleive a rendering. They could save them.
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Detroiternthemist
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Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 11:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the market as is....why does everything need changing......park you cars or walk from near...fruit and flowers......music over at Berts...food off the grill.....its almost perfect. Open on Sunday that would be icing. Stop trying to suburbanize everything!!!
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Saturday, May 13, 2006 - 11:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mist, First of all, everything changes. Berts was not there since the begining of time. New farmers will come and old ones will go. The same goes with most of the stores.

This is not suburbanizing it, it does however turn it into a more active place on slow days (it is underutilized every other day but saturday). You say you don't want to suburbanize it, but you want it open on Sunday's you can't have both. Sunday shopping came when the suburbs were born.
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Irish_mafia
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Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 9:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Everybody loves em!!! You can't always beleive a rendering. They could save them."

______________________________ ___________________
Not everybody.

They are as dated as the artwork on the Partridge Family bus....lose the murals!
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Naturalsister
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Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitplanner,

Sunday shopping? Suburbs? Been to the open markets on Sunday in Manhattan or Chicago, or Columbus, or Philly, or DC?

Obviously not.

A ridiculous statement.

later - naturalsister
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Natural, It was meant to be rudiculous. My statement/main message is all things change (or die off).

I thought mist's comment about how this would suburbanize things was nonsensical so I put together a bougus a correlation that suburbs = end of blue laws; since these laws things faded as suburbanization began.

Natural, where is the open market in Philly? Do you mean open as in open for business or open as in open air? The one I am familiar with is on the lower level of Reading Station; and is a wonderful space.

(Message edited by Detroitplanner on May 14, 2006)
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Thecarl
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Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 8:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey! anybody notice the facade on the produce company (?) north of rafal spice on russel? i drove by this morning, and saw bricks that had peeled off the top of the building, laying on the sidewalk.

the bricks on that building have been bowing out severely for some time now; one would think that code enforcement would see the inherent risk, and at least make the owner put up some netting, if they were unable to make the needed repairs. it looked like hundreds of bricks that cascaded two stories down onto the sidewalk.

i was hoping that this incident didn't happen during peak eastern market shopping hours!
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Wash_man
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Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 8:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ate lunch next door at Mike's Pita on Friday. They were there then, so luckily it didn't happen on Saturday. One of those buildings, I think that one, was bowing out bad. The top part was torn off last fall and rebricked. I hope it wasn't the same building.
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Naturalsister
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Posted on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 10:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Detroitplanner,

Guess I'm a bit sensitive. I grew up on this stuff.

Eight siblings and all, my parents made sure they'd get the best deal and that was at the 'market'.

I'm talking about Filter Square. Is Reading open on Sunday?

later - naturalsister
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Detroitplanner
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Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 1:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hmm Filter Square? Sounds interesting, is that the italian hood on the south side?
We used to go there all the time, and I'm a west sider! We would get our christmas trees there, sometimes Dad would wake us kids up early and take us down to load up the back of the Pontiac with beans or corn, then we would have breakfast at some dive. Good memories.


I didn't think it was, but I was only in town a few days. I stayed down the street from the Reading Terminal, and would do my lunch there. It seems my fellow planners I was being trained with in Philly were to lame to want to go out to eat, but they would give me some handy advice.

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