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Lilpup
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Taking the President to Court

So, I am going to court. With many of my Democratic Colleagues (list appended at the bottom of this diary), I plan to file suit tomorrow in federal district court in Detroit against the President, members of the Cabinet and other federal officers seeking to have a simple truth confirmed: a bill not passed by the House and Senate is not a law, even if the President signs it.


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Gistok
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Take note of the names on his list.... these will become the House Committee Chairmen if the Democrats win in November.
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The_nerd
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But President Bush is the "Decider!"

If we let things like the constitution get in the way then, by golly, the terrorists will stop the cuts to medicare that are vital to this nation's national defenses.
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Detrola
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You have to admire how much time and effort Rep. Conyers spends working on behalf of detroit.
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Irish_mafia
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Isn't Conyers in jail yet?
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Ltorivia485
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Of course not, Irish mafia. Where did you get that source?
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Oldredfordette
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Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 11:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John Conyers is an actual patriot. So rare, I'm not surprised the blinkered right can't see it.
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The_rock
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Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If he is a patriot so is Judge Deborah Tyner.
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Jjaba
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The Republicans are smearing John Conyers and Charles Rangel. Judiciary and Finance would be in their hands and that makes the right wingers cringe.

Combine that duo with a Democratic President and Congress could change things, and things need changing.

jjaba, first helped elect John Conyers in 1964.
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The_rock
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So,jjaba, you are the one I should blame.

And I like Rangel. He honored Tuskegee Airmen.
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Irish_mafia
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Damn Jjaba!

Diapers need changing too...can't we assign them to that?
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Jjaba
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Blame jjaba and the voters who put John Conyers in since 1964. How many elections did he stand for? Amazing. He's almost rivals John Dingell.

Even The Rock hasn't got that kind of record.
And The Rock knows how to work a precinct. (No socks in summer, Pink Izod shirt, khakis.)

jjaba taught Conyers how to say SAALAM ALEKUM.

jjaba, Westside precinct captain.
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The_rock
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jjaba--You are right ( as usual.) He has been there a long time. I never worked on an election campaign except for 5 or 6 judges.
I honestly don't remember. You were on the committee. Who did Conyers defeat in '64?
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Jjaba
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John Conyers was born in 1929 in Detroit. He's 75 yrs. old now. He holds a JD degree from Wayne State. (1958) Admitted to Michigan Bar, 1959. He served in Korean War and worked for Cong. John Dingell 1959-61.

In the 2004 election vs. Veronica Pedraza, he won by 84%, drawing more than John Kerry by 11% in his District.

In 1964, he was elected to the House of Reps. in Dist. 1. In 2000, he was assigned to Dist. 14 in a re-shuffle. He represents Detroit, Hamtramck, Highland Park, Dearborn, and some downriver communities.

Rosa Parks worked for Conyers, 1965-1988.
Conyers has been in Congress 40 yrs., second only to Dingell as the Dean. Conyers has run 20 times and won 20 times. He is Dean of the Black Caucus.

In 1974, Conyers was active in the Watergate Hearings and the onliest Congressman to also be on the Clinton Impeachment hearings.

The slang for this kind of seat is "Conyers holds a Civil Service Seat." Safe Safe Safe.

jjaba worked in the 1964 campaign when he lived on Ewald Circle on the Westside of Detroit.

jjaba.
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The_rock
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The Rock: Your Honor, I move that jjaba's testimony be stricken from the record. The question posed was who did Conyers defeat in the '64 Congressional election, and all we got was a self-serving, pious platitude.
Court: Motion Granted,moving party will submit a taxed Bill of Costs.
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Jiminnm
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jjaba, I'm a bit disappointed in a fellow Technician. What has Conyers done for Detroit or his district in the last 15-20 years to warrant your strong support?
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Livernoisyard
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 10:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's no need to get exercised over the likes of gadflies on Capitol Hill such as Conyers and his analog in the Senate, Russ Feingold. If there were windmills in DC, they would be tilting with them instead. And they'll never ever become Committee chairmen again.

But the radiclibs can dream their impossible dreams when they sleep, for what good that brings.
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Drdetroit
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Let me get out of here before I fall Asleep!!!!
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Jjaba
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John Conyers has brought millions of the Federal trough to Detroit. Obviously, he can't save Detroit from itself. He is well known for hospital projects.

He is held in high esteem by Black Americans on par with Adam Clayton Powell, Louis Stokes, Whitney Young, Andrew Young, Maynard Jackson, Richard Hatcher, and Coleman Young. He represents Detroit with dignity. On the nation's issues, he take no prisoners. He loves to duke it out with everybody. He championed the cause to free South Africans.

Rock, your honour, jjaba is still trying to find your answer. If you know, instead of taunting, tell us who ran against Conyers in 1964.
For crissakes, that was 20 elections ago. What is jjaba, chopped liver?

jjaba.
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The_rock
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As I said on April 29 at 5:30 in the morning--"I honestly don't know". I assumed you did.
I can wait. No hurry. Give it some thought.
Call your buddy, Bonior. Maybe he might know.
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Jjaba
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The Rock, call John Conyers:

Wash. DC: 202-225-5126

Detroit: 313-961-5670

Trenton: 734-675-4084.

Tell us what you find out. We are in no hurry.

On on WWW.johnconyers1964electionres ults.gov.

jjaba on the Westside.
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Lilpup
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all I can find so far is that Conyers defeated Richard Austin in a bitter primary - was there no other opposition?
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The_rock
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okay, jjaba, I will check with his various offices and see what I can find regarding the 1964 election. However, since Mr. Conyers is out of Washington so much on his various cross-country ventures, it might be awhile before we ( I ) get the answer.
So to quote your other buddy, the late Adam Clayton Powell (who I think got excluded from the House in the 60's for spending too much time in Bimini), "Keep The Faith,Baby."
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Mikem
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Conyers beat Robert Blackwell, ~138,000 to 26,000. Seat was previously held by Lucien Nedzi(D).
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Rustic
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The republican candidate in a '64 Detroit congressional election would have been a formality (even moreso than nowadays). Remember, LBJ took something like 2/3rds of the votes in the state that election and probably polled over 3/4 in Detroit so in addition to a strong D district you had a very strong national candidate running for pres. Typical of Detroit elections then and now, the interesting stuff would have been during the primary ... I'll ask my father if he has any anecdotes ... Yay Detroit!
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Hornwrecker
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There was probably a redistricting around that time, or switched districts, as Nedzi never lost an election until he retired in 1980. Some people know when to retire.

He was chairman of the Select Intelligence Committee for the Watergate hearings, and on the House Defense Committee. (Also was my mom's next door neighbor growing up in Hamtramack, and lived in our Nortown neighborhood near Van Dyke and Outer Drive.)
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Mikem
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He moved from the 1st district to the 14th in 1964. First elected to Congress in 1962?
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Jjaba
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Thanks MikeM. Where Lawyer Reseacher Scholar The Rock couldn't and didn't, you, Hornwrecker, and Rustic saved jjaba's ass.

jjaba wishes to observe that Adam Clayon Powell is a respected black congressman among blacks. Where's "my buddy" in all of that? (Rock, that comment was weaker than Lims' third cup of Chinese tea.) There are plenty of good Jewish elected officials for jjaba, thank you.

jjaba, Westside Dexter bus Torah bukkor.
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Jjaba
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jjaba tried to call Conyers office but his staff was doing child care, waiting for his car to be fixed, or marching in the May Day immigrant parades. jjaba will try again.

jjaba.
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Lmichigan
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lol and yawn (for us younger folk) at this whole exchange, but particularly Jjaba's last post.
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Hornwrecker
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Jjaba, The_rock was busy padding his hours; don't be surprised when you receive the bill and the answer about two weeks later.
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The_rock
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Hornwrecker--behave yourself. You are making mischief. Lmichigan-relax, you,too, will be old some day.
Mikem has posted the election results. And I just talked with Bob Blackwell. He is not willing to concede defeat until the absentee ballots Jackie Currie's ambassadors distributed for him are all counted.

the rock--sipping his 3rd cup of tea at Victor Lims
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Jjaba
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It took the Rock 6 minutes to place that last post @ $300.00 hourly billible= $30.00, usual and customary.

jjaba.
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The_rock
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wise-ass, oops! I mean wise-guy.
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Jams
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I'm trying to find a use of the facility to raise money to restore Brodhead Armory.

The_Rock vs. jjaba, no holds barred as the featured event? I'm trying to get hold of Lord Layton to M.C. it.
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Jjaba
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jjaba's got no hound in that fight. Sorry.
Great idea to restore that Art Deco beaudy.
jjaba.
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Lmichigan
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As to the subject, why hasn't there been any national news coverage of Conyer's filing? I've heard NOTHING. And can't seem to find anything on the internet save a few liberal blogs.
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Lilpup
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The AP carried it last week with a Saturday followup

Other than that the media are big chickens afraid to analyze what the fallout from such a case could be...Conyers' case is about Congressional vs Executive Branch power which some feel is out of control right now.
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Lmichigan
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That's what I figured. Our "Imperial President" has Congress and the media whipped, which is why I always laugh when conservatives believe in the conspiracy theory of a "liberal-biased media." Ha!
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Detrola
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Miguel de Cervantes is smiling.
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Irish_mafia
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"That's what I figured. Our "Imperial President" has Congress and the media whipped, which is why I always laugh when conservatives believe in the conspiracy theory of a "liberal-biased media." Ha!"
______________________________ ___________________

Good point. The media is just a bunch of conservative hacks!
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Lmichigan
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No, they aren't that, either. They are simply whipped. They've lost their hunger to search for truth.

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