Toledolaw05 Member Username: Toledolaw05
Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 72.240.58.198
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 9:27 am: | |
How they try and get votes in Toledo "Mr. Sarantou told registered Republicans that he planned to recruit unhappy businesses headquartered in Motown to Lucas County. "There's a lot of companies in downtown Detroit," he said. "It's unsafe, crime-ridden. There's corruption." http://toledoblade.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060430/N EWS09/604300416/-1/NEWS |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 230 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 129.9.163.234
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 9:36 am: | |
That's a pretty sad comentary on Toledo. |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 2559 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.162
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:04 am: | |
It just goes to show Detroit and Toledo have a lot in common, struggling Downtowns on the comeback, problems dumped on them by surrounding communities, and boneheads who try to exploit their problems for their own gain. I suppose we can now expect some LBP type here to take advantage of Toledo's recent racial disturbance. Sick, all of them. For my part I'm looking forward to seeing a game at the new Mudhen's Stadium in downtown Toledo. Any recommendations for interesting pubs / sites in the neighborhood? Toledo art museum in outstanding too. |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 778 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:05 am: | |
Is this guy for real? Hilarious. |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 228 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 10:42 am: | |
Toledo? come on now the Flint to the south? |
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys
Post Number: 399 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 141.217.173.219
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:00 am: | |
http://www.ci.toledo.oh.us/ind ex.cfm?Article=788 The douche's email address is available to all |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 711 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:15 am: | |
Lowell, I would highly suggest "The Dirty Bird", and "The Bronze Boar", both rehabbed pubs just south of the stadium. The Spaghetti warehouse is also very nearby.....they have a trolley car inside, that is very interesting, for a chain-type restaraunt. Try Tony Packos for a genuine Toledo meal, just across the river and to the north. Lastly, Maumee-Bay Brewing company is on the river, just south of the Owens-Corning HQ (and just SE of the stadium)....very cool rehab of an old building, and great beer......also two restaraunts in the same bldg.. Some great old warehouses in that area. Enjoy! |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 781 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:37 am: | |
Dear Mr. Sarantou, I am writing to express my dismay with your comments regarding downtown Detroit, as published in the Toledo Blade on April 30, 2006. Your description of downtown Detroit as "unsafe, crime ridden...[and] corrupt." is factually inaccurate and diminishes positive perceptions of our region and yours. A study prepared by Wayne State University in 2005 reveals that the crime rate in downtown Detroit is "much lower than national, state and metro averages." Please review the study here. http://www.tedconline.com/uplo ads/DMCVB_June_Final_Report.pd f Recent levels of investment also support the positive environment in downtown Detroit. New casinos, stadia, and corporate headquarters - yes, businesses are willingly relocating to downtown Detroit - reveal that the Motor City is welcoming and hospitible. You'll likely find it difficult to woo tenants such as Compuware Corporation, Price Waterhouse Coopers, or Ernst and Young from their new offices in Detroit. Other companies are looking to make the move to Detroit, including suburban-based Quicken Loans. I strongly suggest you give Detroit, downtown in particular, a second look. The city is rebounding strongly from decades of disinvestment, much of which was caused by federal policies in support of decentralization. The reputation of Detroit is important to our community, but also to yours. Northern Ohio benefits from the health and welfare of the people of metropolitan Detroit. Perhaps you'll soon come to recognize this important fact. Sincerely, 1953 |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 792 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.101
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:45 am: | |
Good work old timer. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 43 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 11:46 am: | |
1953, what if Quicken Loans/Rock Financial moves to Toledo instead? Not such a good idea to mention who is on the bubble. He sounds like he is totally out of the loop. Keep him that way! : ) |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1449 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.66.56
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:09 pm: | |
Oh I hope they recruit. This will be amusing. Ohio should be a turned into one big parking lot. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 7281 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:17 pm: | |
quote:Ohio should be a turned into one big parking lot.
Not really fair to say about Ohio. |
Ltrain Member Username: Ltrain
Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.33.49
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:22 pm: | |
I warned him to expect a bunch of emails in reference to his commentary. I just told him is was unfounded and unfair. If he'd visited our downtown he could not say those things. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1450 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.66.56
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:33 pm: | |
Not fair to call downtown Detroit crime ridden, either. I'm just blinded by having too many run-ins with Ohio State fans, haha, and having a distaste for the strictly enforced speed limits once you get into that oh so lovely, crime-free state. |
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1
Post Number: 7284 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:33 pm: | |
Mackinaw - I agree just wanted to point it out that the State of Ohio has some decent things to offer. |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 784 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:43 pm: | |
Don't worry guys. This baboon isn't going to steal Quicken Loans (though the thought crossed my mind while crafting my response). (Message edited by 1953 on May 01, 2006) |
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit
Post Number: 382 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.42.23.2
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:43 pm: | |
I love lamp... i don't see Toledo exactly as the new business hub of the midwest... it's a lot slower. I didn't think life could be slower than in Michigan. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1452 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.66.56
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:45 pm: | |
Haha. But whoever compared Toledo to Flint was a little off. Flint is a complete basket-case of a city; Toledo has a much larger population and a somewhat coherent downtown. |
Jimelnino Member Username: Jimelnino
Post Number: 416 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.250.43.213
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:48 pm: | |
I know this is inconsequential, but the Mud Hens stadium in Toledo is absolutely beautiful. But yeah, who are they kidding here. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 44 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 1:03 pm: | |
1953, they opened a sizable office in Cleveland when they bought the Caveliers and are providing several hundred jobs there now. If you were to operate a company with offices in Detroit and Cleveland, would not Toledo be a logical HQ? |
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander
Post Number: 1751 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 1:34 pm: | |
Only one letter, get to work people. Also please post reponses you might get. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 49 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.213.66.220
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 2:09 pm: | |
Who the heck wants to live in Toledo? |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 3214 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.218.153.119
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 2:14 pm: | |
Ohio got Toledo, We got the U.P. in exchange, which also gave us a shoreline on Lake Superior. |
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit
Post Number: 392 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.42.23.2
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 2:53 pm: | |
lol @ Jams... that was my laugh for the day |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 787 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
Toledo would be a perfect geographic center, but with information technology like we have today, no one cares about that very much anymore. Here's the response I received: --- The message cannot be delivered to the following address. --- george.sarantou@toledo.oh.gov Permanent error involving remote host. 550 5.7.1 Requested action not taken: message refused |
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city
Post Number: 18 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.217.214.203
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 5:30 pm: | |
There is no such thing as an unhappy business in Detroit. If there was, they would have left years ago. In fact, I'd imagine the opposite is more accurate in that many businesses want to become a part of the Detroit scene. Watch Toledo suffer a net loss of business as many move to Detroit. |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 789 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 5:58 pm: | |
I love that Rocket_city. d |
Treelock Member Username: Treelock
Post Number: 109 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.192.27.161
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 6:09 pm: | |
Toledo is a strange city. My wife and I recently drove down on a Saturday afternoon to see a Louis Comfort Tiffany exhibit at the art museum, which is terriffic (as was the exhibit). We planned to make an afternoon of it and find a nice place to have lunch afterward. However, after driving around for at least a half hour, we abandoned our idea and drove back to Detroit to eat. We stayed on the west side of the river, including the downtown area, and could not find anything. We did see a few hole-in-the-wall bars, but nothing that looked particularly promising for food. The building stock in that city looks to be about the same age as Detroit's. They seem by and large in much better shape, but totally vacant. Downtown, on a Saturday afternoon, was absolutely empty. Nothing open. It's too bad; it seems like it could be a nice, compact city. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2037 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.6.93
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 6:51 pm: | |
The Toledo Paramount Theatre, a 3,800 seat Rapp & Rapp Atmospheric movie palace, and one of the most opulent theatres in Ohio.... was pounded to rubble in the 1960's. So today Toledo's theatre district doesn't even exist..... |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 3618 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 7:36 pm: | |
I haven't read much of the responses, but this coming from someone in Toledo!? It's largely in the same boat as Detroit, but without half of the national importance, and a downtown even more dead than downtown Detroit. This guy needs some education, DetroitYes style. Email flood, anyone? (Message edited by lmichigan on May 01, 2006) |
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin
Post Number: 528 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.76.54.108
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 8:11 pm: | |
Jams, we already had 2/3rds of the U.P. before the Toledo War. We we're supposed to get everything east of the southern tip of Lake Michigan. Just ask John Quincy Adams. Save for what is rightfully ours, I second turning the rest of Ohio into parking. A dirt lot preferably. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 3227 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.252.127.221
| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 9:26 pm: | |
Send me proof.............never mind, a quick Google search proved your point. We got 2/3rds of the UP in return, for a simple knife wound. Wasn't a cow killed? Can't find it at the moment. But, at least, we don't have Toledo. |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 713 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 4:32 pm: | |
Treelock, admittedly Toledo is a VERY blue-collared town. Much more so as a percentage than even Detroit. Toledo has three very nice jewels to discover.....the Toledo Zoo (Compact and well-kept), the Museum (Same as above) and the Mudhens stadium....very tight to the field, I recommend it highly. Please read my earlier post for several recommendations the next time you are there. There is also a trio of restaraunts on the east bank of the river (right across from the core of downtown), that are very nice on a sunday afternoon. I had one of the best meals of my life the 1st night of the blackout a few years ago, and stayed overnight in Toledo.......They have their own power, and plenty of it that night.....all in air-conditioned comfort....... |