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Detroitstar
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Steve Yzerman wrote the book on class. He is everything that you expect from a leader, and even more. Having the privlage of knowing him and his family, I know this is not just a front that he puts up in the public eye.

I think The Captain deserves to have a street named after him. Maybe 3rd Street?

Just a random thought I had after reading the article about him in today's Free Press.
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Crew
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We don't name streets after Canadians. Next thing you know AIW is going to want a street named after him. Geesh
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Jt1
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The city has already wasted enough money changing street names.

I repsect Yzerman and think he is a great role model for kids but don't see the need to waste money and time on renaming streets given the real issues the city is facing.
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Detroitstar
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Yeah, because Cadillac Sq is named after an american, right...
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Jimelnino
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*whoooosh* <- the sound of Crew's comments going right over Detroitstars head

You're new, so we'll let this one slide :-)
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Detroitstar
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I've been lurking for quite a long time, but often some of the things here do go right over me.

I just think that Detroit owes more to him that we really will ever know. His contributions to the community off the ice, are as impressive as those on the ice.

His work off the ice with my non-profit Detroit STAR program proves that he loves the city just as much as the metro.
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L_b_patterson
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hell if patrick roy can get a street named after one season in denver
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Danindc
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Wait wait wait. Hold up. I thought Detroit was still naming things after Rosa Parks. Is that period over already?
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Jt1
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Nope - And also a waste of money in our given financial situation.
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Wabashrr1
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Street sign wouldn't last 60 seconds. Within 1 hour of installation it'll be on ebay.
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Mw2gs
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Detroitstar....so he volunteered a little of his time....big freakin deal......He's a great player no doubt but not a real asset to the community inside 8.
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Detroitstar
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Yeah, I guess his $55,000 contribution and 100 hours of personal time donated to help D students go to college was not a real asset.

Nevermind, I guess I'm in the minority who thinks athletes actually can mean more than just overpaid wastes of space.
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Danindc
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By that token, shouldn't we be naming streets after people who volunteer at soup kitchens, Habitat for Humanity, people in the Motor City Blight Busters, and so on? We wouldn't want those people to think they are just overpaid wastes of space.
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1953
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I support Detroitstar.

We should rename Elijah Muhammed Boulevard to Steve Yzerman drive.
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Jt1
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DS - I think that Yzerman has been a blessing for the city Sports world and for the community in which he volunteers.

There are however many, many people that volunteer their lives to causes and are not considered to have roads named after them. Most people that are passionate about volunteering probably don't care about the recognition and I am guessing Steve Yzerman falls into the same boat.

If he retires do something to honor him but changin street names costs money. Detroit has no money to spare.
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Miss_cleo
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you guys sure know how to turn a nice noble gesture to a wonderful captain and role model for kids into rubbish!
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Jt1
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My feelings on this are the same as naming a road after Rosa Parks. Honor the man but don't spend money doing it. Changing street signs takes time and money.
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Mw2gs
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Compare Yzerman to Dave Bing, Robert Porcher, Vinny Johnson....atheletes who are truly committed to Detroit and are here doing business and creating jobs. Sorry buddy.....your superhero doesnt pass the litmus test.
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Border5150
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I've never had the pleasure of meeting "The Captain" personally, but I hear he really is a good guy.

I say let the Red Wings take care of this. Let them put up a statue of Yzerman inside JLA (a la Comerica. Hey, the Wings taking a cue from the Tigers? Whodathunkit?), even change the address of the building to 19 Steve Yzerman Drive. A lot of sports teams do stuff like that.

Of course, this stuff should only be considered AFTER his #19 is retired and he's inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.
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Mountainman
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Steve Yzerman was born in Canada, but recently declared his US citizenship. No street name, but a statue outside of the Joe may be appropriate. Maybe at the people mover stop. Or maybe we could have him painted riding that whale on the Broderick tower. That'd be pretty cool. Hell, throw VJ up there too. While you're at it, paint a Stroh's in the hands too. And slap some Shelby racing stripes on the Whale. Now that's Detroit.
I'm still trying to figure out how to work a coney dog in there.
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Solarflare
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Mountainman,
That could make for an interesting photoshop...
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Mountainman
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Solarflare,
I think we should issue a challenge. We want some to craft this artistic masterpiece.
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Supersport
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I think Yzerman should be renamed Coleman A. Young.
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Mw2gs
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Maybe rename The Joe to The Steve
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Susanarosa
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I actually really like the above People Mover stop idea...

Let Nextel or whomever paint another billboard on a building. Renaming stuff has jumped the shark for me ever since the City Council wanted to rename Pingree Park to Uhuru Park.
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Mackinaw
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I'm sure Civic Ctr. Dr. or a new street around whereever the new hockey arena is built will be named Yzerman Dr. I agree with Detroitstar. Not only is he one of the greatest franchise players of all time, but he's also a good guy.

They have a Roberto Clemente Bridge in Pittsburgh.
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Fury13
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Those of us who aren't hockey fans barely know who Steve Yzerman is. To Red Wings fans, he may be a god, but to the rest of us... ehhh. Hockey may be bigger in metro Detroit than in some other cities, but the Pistons, Lions, and Tigers all have much more of a following here.

I'd rather see a street named after Pete Karmanos, who has brought thousands of jobs and residual development to the city.

Maybe the new hockey arena downtown (when it comes) can be named after Yzerman. That would be more appropriate. Let Ilitch make that call.
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Supersport
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Well said, but I still like renaming him in honor of the late Coleman A Young.
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Kenp
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I am a huge fan of Steve Y, the hockey player. Off the ice there is no Detroit/SY connection at all. In the 20+ years he has played I dont think he has contributed much to the city in any way besides hockey. I say if Gordie Howe has no street then no hockey player should.
I heard a great Howe story years ago. Somebody ask him if he ever had his nose broken. He replied, "no, but I know 12 other guys you can ask"
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Coleman Alexander Yzerman! Same initials, too. I like it.
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Detroitstar
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If the pistons had a much bigger following, it sure has not been reflected. As I recall, the Red Wings 1997 parade, at 1.2 million was the largest gathering in the history of the city.

Just my 2 cents. Not a lot of logic to back this, but I just dont see the pistons being bigger than the wings right now, even though they sure have performed much better recently.
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Here is some logic.

You could jump online and buy tickets to most any Wings game this year. Many did not sell out. The home opener I was at was maybe 1/2 capacity. You don't see that at a Pistons game on ANY night, and try buying online during the season and you have to plan months ahead.

Sorry, but how many show up for a parade is hardly a just comparison of their fan base.
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Mackinaw
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Kenp makes a valid point.

I do not think the Pistons compare to the Wings. First, the level of excitement for their championship runs does not compare to the Red Wings in the 90s. This past season, before the Wings were ousted, I'd say that levels of interest in either team were about equal. The Wings are pretty much a Detroit original...the Pistons, imported from Indiana, only here since 1957, and not HERE anymore.

Fury13, I'd actually like to see the Joe Louis tribute continue for the new arena, but I know it won't happen. The new name will be corporate--Olympia--but at least this coincides with the name of the original venue.

I hope the JLA doesn't become the new Ford Auditorium when the Wings leave. It better get torn down and the city better find some other way to pay tribute to Louis.
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Detroitstar
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I was at at least 15 pistons games this season, and there were plenty of empty seats.


And back to the Yzerman issue, he did live in the city for 6 years, which is more than probably 90% of the athletes over the last 25 years, so he has made a contribution at a certain level unlike someone above tried to say.
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Mackinaw
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"Many did not sell out."

Uhhhhh...you sure about that? Many seats were vacant....many big wigs sit in the Olympia room, but the Wings, while not completely selling the entire season out in the fall the way they did around 1998, kept their sellout streak alive I believe. The Pistons usually have tickets available for a given game a few weeks in advance; Pistons crowds usually leave early it seems....it takes forever to get free from that silly ass parking lot.
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1953
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Mountainman
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Interesting. Yet I still think the Whale and at least VJ, if not Dave Bing needs to get worked in there.
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Detroitstar
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Every 2nd skyscraper is named after a david...how about the David Bing Building?
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1953
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David's sure are a successful group;)
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Jt1
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Not to self - Name all children David.
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Kenp
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The lockout hurt the Wing fan base big time.
I go to both the Palace and Joe Louis. The people that run the Palace give their seats away to get the parking and other revenue they generate. Many times before they were winning they would give seats away or discount them and say it was a sellout. Now that they are a top team the Piston fans will come to the Palace and actually pay top dollar.
The real fans are Red Wing fans, very loyal. As soon as the Pistons start to fade, the fans will to. Everybody loves a winner.
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From the globe and mail: "There have been 409 consecutive regular-season and playoff Joe Louis Arena sellouts since December 1996"

You can find this fact in the "notes" section of the following story (you may not want to read the story, however):

http://www.theglobeandmail.com /servlet/story/RTGAM.20060429. woilers29/BNStory/Sports
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7even, that's some good schitt!
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7even, that's beautiful. It's like seeming my dream come true.
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Detroitstar
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lol now how about brandon inge sliding into home on the whale at the bottom?
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Iseries840
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Who is Steve Yzerman?
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Jimelnino
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Ok guys heres the facts.

The Wings did in fact sell out every game this year, the JLA was at 100.1% capacity http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/ attendance?year=2006. HOWEVER, you could order tickets online, and even pick them up at the arena box office before the game started. In previous years good luck getting a ticket on game day, this year it was possible, but the arena WAS always sold out.

Now before I say this, let me just say that I'm a fan of all sports, and every Detroit team, and Hockey is my favorite sport. I don't care how big Hockey is in this area, arguably biggest hockey market in the U.S., but Basketball and the Pistons are bigger, its just a fact. Going further, baseball and the Tigers are bigger than the Pistons, and football and the Lions are the kings. Its just a fact that in the US, it goes football > baseball > basketball > hockey. Things may change depending on team success, but this usually remains true.

Also, empty seats in an arena doesn't mean its not a sellout, either people are at one of the arena bars, or they didn't show up, but both the Wings and Pistons sold every seat this year.
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Gistok
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Welcome to the forum 7even!!!

And what a glorious post you have! Few words.... can't top that around here.... usually too many words are spoken!! :-)
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Just a little FYI.....

"I'd rather see a street named after Pete Karmanos, who has brought thousands of jobs and residual development to the city. "

Karmanos = owner of the Carolina Hurricanes, a HOCKEY team.......

"Sorry, but how many show up for a parade is hardly a just comparison of their fan base."

Go to ANY, and I do mean ANY opposing team's home ice when the Wings are in town, and I guarantee you there will be at LEAST 1/3 of the people there wearing Red Wings jerseys...makes for an interesting Chicago-Detroit game in Chicago when I'm wearing my Wings jersey!!!! Years ago, that would've got my ass kicked, but seeing how Chicago's been playing the last few years and Wirtz' treatment of the fans,........
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Iheartthed
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How about we name Big Beaver after him?
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Futurecity
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We could call it Big Stever
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Genesyxx
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The dedication that he's given to the city/region should be recognized definately. A street name isn't one of them. I'm sure the Winged Wheels will think of something proper.
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Bagman
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Abel Ave?
Ted Lindsay Trail?
Howe Hwy?

I think before Stevie gets his we have some catching up to do?

Yzerman Ave, sounds good but could people spell it?
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Jt1
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Meet me at the intersection of Yzerman and Livernois. Just rolls right off the tongue.

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