  Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 10 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.61.197.58 |
What ever happen to greektown plans for their hotel and casino expansion, is it on hold or what? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3677 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.189.74 |
Give it time. They are probably simply rounding up the appropriate companies for the project (general contractor, structural engineer...) | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 80 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
I'll bet you 10 to 1 that greektown will change plans again instead of trying to shoe horn their project into that small foot print. Especially with Mgm Grand unveiling their project at over $750 million and Greektown's crap at $200 million. Look for Mike & Marian Ilitch to revamp there minimun investment proposal also. (Message edited by drdetroit on May 08, 2006) (Message edited by drdetroit on May 08, 2006) | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 446 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
Have some patience it'll come in handy deal with any project in this city. I don't think they were going to start work this soon anyway | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1605 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.209.158.194 |
I see that the Gratiot-I-75 site is up for sale. Greektown Casino surely won't change their minds and build there if a for sale sign is up. | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 616 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.214.106 |
The Greetown construction should be starting soon. I don't have an exact date, but it shouldn't be very long. | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 81 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
How come they cant change their minds and still build on gratiot. Like I said I will bet you 10 to 1 that Greektown will change their plans again. | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 719 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
Greektown Casino will NEVER build on their Gratiot lot........ | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 636 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.248.252 |
Maybe Rock will... | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 46 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.42.80.245 |
The article about the city selling the garage to the casino said they're supposed to start building in june. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060407/U PDATE/604070431 | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 84 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
Gambling_man - Ok, a friendly wager. If Greektown starts construction as currently proposed I will start a thread labeled "Gambling_man was right & I was wrong about Greektown" If they revise again (as I predict) you will post "drdetroit was right & I was wrong about Greektown ) Do we have a bet Gambling_man?????? (Message edited by drdetroit on May 09, 2006) (Message edited by drdetroit on May 09, 2006) | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2067 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.65 |
That Gratiot site should be the location for the new Justice Campus that the county has been touting lately. No point in rebuilding a county jail when the one they have seems perfectly adequate and relatively new. Ditto for the Murphy Hall of Justice. If anything, they should build courthouse space along Gratiot and hide the jail facilities farther away (like the county jail). They should eliminate the old city jail though. The sight of all that barbed wire fencing along Gratiot does not help with the rejuvenation of that stretch of Gratiot. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1797 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
Making a bet about the casino with someone Named Gambling man sounds like a huge losing bet to me. | ||
Spitty Member Username: Spitty Post Number: 466 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.101 |
Yeah, especially when in the past he's been known to refer to Greektown Casino as "we". Ya gotta do your homework DrDetroit or you might end up hearing this question: Do you know who the f*ck I am?! My money's on Gambling_man. | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 86 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
Spitty _ I already have done my home work. That is why I know that the so-called "MINORITY INVESTORS" (Non Indian) in GreekTown Casino have absolutely no power just lip service. So who ever Gambling_man is suppose to be he is just typing on a keyboard ( talking & saying nothing ) Because he has no real say in the matter. The way that the Indian's dis-respected Detroit by making that Romulus casino proposal should tell you that. So yes I have done my home work Spitty and THE BET STANDS !!!!! Greektown will change their proposal again | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1800 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
Sorry DrDetroit. You better do a lot more research. He's not a minority Investor. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.40.65.66 |
doesnt sound like much of a bet? posting a thread? lol not much of a risk there...i'd take a much more risky bet if I all had to do was say I was wrong | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 632 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
So much of what noobs say just makes me shake my head. (Message edited by E_hemingway on May 09, 2006) | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1801 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
Makes me laugh that most of the noobs think we're all 19 year old know nothings. Some of us have real careers with real ties to what's going on. | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 87 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
Apbest - I believe I said friendly wager. I may be wrong but you can check. | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 88 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
Apbest - I believe I said friendly wager. I may be wrong but you can check. Actually this is a sucker bet. Motorcity wil announce changes and more investment also. Ndavies I think your wrong. Let's see | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 89 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.103.130 |
Oh yeah..Art Blackwell has the highest amount of " MINORITY" investment in Greektown casino @ 5%. Ndavies if you think that Gambling_man Is in the Ste Tribe Think again. Easy( friendly )bet | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1803 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
LMAO at another ignorant noob. Dude, you've lost that bet. Maybe you should get to know who the players are before you start making bets with them. Don't think investor. Think operational. I'll definitely believe my friend and soon to be neighbor's view of what's going on over yours. I do know what Gambling man does for a living, unlike you. (and he's no black jack dealer.) | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 845 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.217.228.170 |
ndavies; check your email or shoot me one (i might have the wrong address). | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7368 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
Drink girl? | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 448 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
Hmm who to believe? Gambling man who's given us accurate info on Greektown happenings before or DrDetroit who hasn't told us anything | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 720 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
dRDETROIT, Art Blackwell doesn't own any part of the casino whatsoever. The largest "minority" investor has maybe 1/4 of 1% ownership of the casino. | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 721 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
Oh, and if you want to place a bet, let me know. As for "changing" plans, any number of things could happen, but the current ownership of the casino will not be completely rebuilding the casino on another site........ | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3679 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.162.223.78 |
Drdetroit, you've really over-stepped your bounds, here. Gambling man is on the inside. You are not. Unless you have some credible information that the plans are more likely than not to change (including a total site relocation), than you should probably just sit and wait like the rest of us, instead of running off at the mouth. There's a difference between being bold, and being just plain foolish. You've already crossed the line, IMO. | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1087 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
I, too, put my money on GM..hehehe. By the way, if Drdetroit, I know a little bit about that Romulus deal. That wasn't a slap in the face. That is a business move to make the Sault tribe a viable player in the Michigan casino industry. If you know anything about how the tribe runs its business you would know that they run their casinos up north in clusters. With presence in 3 cities down here, Romulus, Port Huron and Detroit(Monroe would be the icing on the cake) they would be a chief competitor in this market and the Michigan market as well. I may not know as much as the inside man Gambling_man but I have an interest in seeing how well they do in this market. | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 92 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 |
Gambling_man = Bizaree on this thread. Looks like he is loosing it! | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 33 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 |
art blackwell doe's own 5 percent of greektown casino. Looks like Gambling_man is an imposter if he claims to be on the inside ans dosen't know that. (Message edited by detroit48213 on May 10, 2006) | ||
Lurker Member Username: Lurker Post Number: 1626 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.196.220.198 |
Did you edit that to make it less legible? | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 723 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
Art Blackwell sold his entire percentage back to the Tribe 4.5 months ago. Period. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 1766 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
I don't know if I can believe you G_M anyone that includes their zip code or the word Detroit in their member name must know their shit. Considering Detroit48213 has both you must be wrong.  | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 95 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 |
Gambling_man - Art has not sold his 5 % interest in Greektown. You are making a fool of your self now drop it Mr so-called inside man. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1808 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
DrDetroit, According to Crains, You're the one making a fool out of yourself. From nov14 2005: http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2005 1114/SUB/511140893&SearchID=73 244155572604
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Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 449 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
Congratulations DrDetroit  | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 1767 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.91.250.131 |
I'm starting to question whether you are really a Dr now. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5872 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.213.167 |
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Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2075 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.6.193 |
Ah the DetroitYES Forum.... where the weak are killed and eaten by the strong..... | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 96 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 66.72.149.250 |
My original post is that Greektown Casino will change their plans again. I stand by that post. I also said that Gambling_man has no say in the matter. I stand by that post. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3682 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.167.135.33 |
Yeah, because you know so much more about the inner-workings of Greektown Casino, right? | ||
Spitty Member Username: Spitty Post Number: 468 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.213.206.54 |
Of course they'll change their plans somehow. That's such a broad statement, and things will come up during the course of construction that require adjusting. Looks like you're trying to go back on what you said and repaint it with a broad brush. You said, "I'll bet you 10 to 1 that greektown will change plans again instead of trying to shoe horn their project into that small foot print." So technically, you haven't simply said that they will change their plans, you've said that they are going to build somewhere else. Also you gave 10 to 1 odds, so you'll need to post 10 threads stating that you lost if they do shoe horn they're hotel, etc. onto that footprint. And Gamblingman never said that he was part of the decision-making process. Hey may not have input, but I think he has info. One more thing, all bets on the forum should involve beer or beers. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3683 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.167.135.33 |
No, he was arguing that there would be huge overhauls of the current project, and more likely than not a total move of venue. | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 47 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.42.80.245 |
A day late for this Broken_main, but the Port Huron aspect isnt a sure thing. The voters here approved it, but apparently its stuck in the federal goverment level because some type of land swap is required, I believe. Also, another tribe jumped into the fray, proposing a massive casino and hotel redevelopment. I know that this doesn't necessarily pertain to Greektown, but since it was mentioned just thought I'd share the info I had. | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 730 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
DrDetroit, I will put all the money in the world on the fact that Art sold his ownership in Monroe Partners LLC, that owned 40-some percent of Greektown Casino LLC. Truth be told, there is another agreement in place that if you truly knew anything at all, you would be able to speak to.....I cannot, as I actually do know.....So until you come up with some factual information, I would appreciate it if you would leave room for those of us that do........ | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 731 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
Also, I am not on the board of Directors for Greektown Casino LLC. They are ultimately the ones that always decide what will be done with the casino. There are 14 people on the board, most of them elected officials, who have very different ideas about what should be done with the casino. Even if you were actually on the board,(which I can guarantee you are not) you could not accurately tell me what exactly the board as a whole was going to do. I post on this board to be part of the "goings-on" downtown, and a desire to see this city get better. I do not post to argue facts with know-nothing newbies such as yourself. | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 619 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.255.238.220 |
OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Drdetroit - you couldn't possibly go on with your rantings after that tongue lashing from G_man. Rantings is what they are. later - naturalsister | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 157 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 24.192.25.47 |
But Gambling_man doesn't know what he's talking about. I do. Listen to me. The way you will know that I am right is because I will tell you he is wrong. These are my qualifications. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5880 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.242.213.167 |
To a lot of you, Gamblingman is simply some anonymous online guy and you have no reason to trust what he says. But he isn't anonymous to older members of the forum. We know who he is, where he works and what he does. Please don't think that he can post any old thing that pops in his head unchecked. Skulker and Histeric are there to beat him down if he started doing that. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 641 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 194.138.39.56 |
Itsjeff, what does that make you? Narrator? | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 851 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.255.236.129 |
word [to itsjeff]. | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 735 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
Hah! Those old men could give it their best shot! | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1089 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
Oh goodie...a fight!! A fight!!! I'm putting my money on the G_M...LOL BTW...thanks for the info Andyguard73 | ||
Toog05 Member Username: Toog05 Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.61.197.58 |
What happen to my thread!...LOL | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3699 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.167.182.114 |
Drdetroit happened to your thread. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 414 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 69.136.150.132 |
The Greektown Casino deal was weak from the very beginning and it still shows today. Archer made a huge mistake and bowed to political pressure when he approved their bid. He should have had the courage to reject their bid while using his savvy and political capital on getting the right group in. Can you imagine what a Steve Winn casino would like in Detroit next to an MGM? | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 100 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.250.41.15 |
Morena - I agree but you have a lot of so-called intelligent people on this thread who dont even have a clue. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2591 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.162 |
DrDetroit is no longer with us, nor his alter ego Detroit48213. LOL, a little bit , at you regulars for biting at the troll bait and overlooking the giveaway in this thread. A little more research by our crack DetroitYES hacker guard dug some more on our split personality friend[s]. Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 92 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 10:12 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Gambling_man = Bizaree on this thread. Looks like he is loosing it! Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 33 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:33 am: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- art blackwell doe's own 5 percent of greektown casino. Looks like Gambling_man is an imposter if he claims to be on the inside ans dosen't know that. ======================== Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 28 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.219.20.60 Posted on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 10:24 pm: Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 31 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.219.20.60 ========================== Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.219.20.60 Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:21 am: Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 28 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.219.20.60 ============================== =================== Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 94 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 8:41 am: Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 34 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.218.153.178 Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:35 am: ============================== ======= | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 416 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 69.136.150.132 |
Hey Lowell: Are you eavesdropping on posters too. haha. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3703 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.167.182.114 |
I sure hope so. Internet forums are one place I don't mind not having democracy, as these are individuals giving their time and money to run a website. And, Lowell is usually very hands-off in moderation (to my chagrin, sometimes), so DrDetroit must have really have gotten out of line or shown a significant pattern of trolling. |
