Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 313 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 6:38 pm: | |
Anyone know where Ford's first shop on Mack was located? |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2087 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.106
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 6:42 pm: | |
I don't know about Mack Ave..... but the VERY FIRST Ford shop was in a carriage house in a back alley off of Bagley Ave. (on the site of the former Michigan Theatre) where Henry Ford built his first motor and his first horse-less carriage back in the mid 1890's. |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 3804 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 67.160.138.107
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 8:50 pm: | |
Greenfield Village. jjaba. |
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2
Post Number: 229 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 9:11 pm: | |
Started off on the Eastside and ended up on the Westside! Livedog2 |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1505 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.2.9
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 9:22 pm: | |
From ModelD media... "September 27, 2005 Ford’s original showroom to showcase artists Ford’s building that originally was used to showcase his cars is being put to good use after being vacant for years. Josephine Marino, a local artist, recently purchased the historic building to provide a larger studio to work in. She plans on converting the first floor of the three-story, 30,000-sqare-foot building into a showcase for art and artists. Meanwhile, the top two floors will be reverted to their original purpose by serving as storage space for cars and boats. Understanding that artists need a lot of space to work in, Marino is renting out the bottom floor to artists who also are seeking a larger workspace. Marino works with clay, metal and oil and is seeking to attract artists who will add other creative media to the list, such as glass-blowing. Studio space can be rented out for any period of time, from hourly to yearly. The additional top two floors are used as storage space for cars, boats, bikes, etc. The original steel elevator was designed to transport cars to the top two levels. Storage units are available for immediate use, while artist space will be ready soon. The building is located at 14801 E. Jefferson Ave." I'm not putting too much into this when it comes to historical data, I just remember coming across this. |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1146 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.146
| Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 10:29 pm: | |
685(?) Mack & Beaufait, 1903-04, fate: demolished Also on that intersection is the first Hudson (1909-10) factory, formerly Aerocar (1906-08), which is still standing. Brick structure with arched front door. (Message edited by Hornwrecker on May 11, 2006) |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 187 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 209.220.229.254
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 10:46 am: | |
Check the Old Car Factory thread for the location of the shed on Bagley. I circled it from an 1897 map. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 594 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 209.69.221.253
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 1:14 pm: | |
I seem to recall the street was called Rowena when the Ford factory was first built. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2090 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.6.200
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 2:45 pm: | |
Was the entire stretch of Mack called Rowena? Or was only the few blocks near Woodward called Rowena? I remember Albert Kahn's 90 year old daughter Rosalie mentioning Rowena a few years ago (the Kahn residence is the Urban League building today at the corner of Mack/John R), but I thought that it was only called that for a few blocks, and the rest of the road was always called Mack Ave. (changing names somewhere near where I-75 is today). Am I wrong? |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 3267 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.122.61
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:04 pm: | |
Came across this on a Google search, too lazy to pull out the old maps. http://www.phigam.org/history/ Sites/detroit.htm Hotel Cadillac, from a postcard Hotel Cadillac (site only) 1909 Ekklesia A famous hotel in its day, the Hotel Cadillac hosted the 61st Ekklesia in August 1909. 244 brothers attended. The hotel was demolished and replaced with the Book Cadillac Hotel. Corner of Michigan and Washington Boulevard |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 3268 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.122.61
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:21 pm: | |
Mack is definitely a very old road name through the Eastside. I can't find that particular map, I have of the rural area from the 1800's, although I'm sure, I've seen it on the web somewhere. Rowena; named for the wife of Alfred E. Brush, Rowena Hunt; 1878 (Message edited by JamS on May 12, 2006) |
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 241 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.212.214.147
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:57 pm: | |
Jams: "The Hotel Cadillac was demolished and replaced by the Book Cadillac Hotel." Where were the preservationists? How could they have permitted that to happen? |
Fury13
Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1058 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.222.11.226
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 3:58 pm: | |
Or was only the few blocks near Woodward called Rowena? Yes. If you take Mack from Woodward, you'll notice that there is a subtle jog in the road somewhere east of Hastings/I-75 (I believe that's where it is). That's where Rowena ended and Mack originally started. |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 3272 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.122.61
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 4:08 pm: | |
3rdworldcity, I'm just p*ssed all the log cabins are gone. :p |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1148 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.77
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 4:24 pm: | |
From 1884 map: Rowena for 2 blocks to Brush, stops, starts as Ohio to Russell, jogs over North and becomes Edwards to Riopelle, jogs over North, again, to become Bellair. Bellair runs to Jos Campau in 1884: stops, starts, stops, then Gratiot, Mack starts on the Eastside of Gratiot. The map isn't suitable to reduce down for posting, so the above description will have to do. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2092 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.207
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 7:03 pm: | |
Wow, thanks Hornwrecker. Didn't realize that it was so complicated in the old days! |
Fury13
Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1059 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.204
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 10:20 pm: | |
Hornwrecker, by some point around 1900-1910 I believe all that was simplified and it was Rowena for a few blocks and then Mack. A map circa 1910-15 should show this. I could be wrong, but I remember seeing an old map that showed this. |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1149 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.185
| Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 10:41 pm: | |
Fury, yes it did; Rowena into Bellair at around Riopelle on the 1889 map, and Bellair going all the way through to Gratiot. I just wanted to find out when, and was surprised by all of the convolutions taken in one street name on the earlier map, so I though I'd share. One interesting thing I found on that map was the old ball park on Brady, behind Harper Hospital. I forgot about where the Tigers played on the Eastside. |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 1165 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.166
| Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 10:15 pm: | |
Detroitnerd, it turns out that you were partially correct, Ford did have a factory at 419 Rowena, between Brush and Beaubien, in 1921 to make carburetors. You learn something knew everyday. I'll post a map of it later in the OCF thread. |