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Leob
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Post Number: 45
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I know this topic may already be exhausted.
Any new news on a HOB for Detroit ?

Leo B
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7milekid
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Post Number: 42
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how about house of raps instead
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Supersport
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's all about the Cheese Cake.
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Crew
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Will the HOB have first floor retail and adequate parking?
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Jsmith9423
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If my memory serves me correctly, the HoB was suppose to be built between the Fox and State when Comerica Park was completed. Does any one remeber that? I rememnebr there was talk about the China Club coming to Detroit. Does anyone remember that one as well?
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Restoretheroar
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"remember that time, like, in Die Hard where you fought the bad guys, and like you killed them? Remember that? Remember that? That was pretty cool."
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Supersport
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Ok Farley.
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Eastsidedog
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Fuck chain restaurants. Bring back a real blues place like the Soup Kitchen.
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Supersport
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Tore that schitt down!
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Reetz12
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About 2 years ago a budget was put in for HOB at Ford Field 6th floor also a steak house(maybe Ruth Chris) was supposed to be on first floor, but no new news since :-(
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Eastsidedog
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You guys really like these chain places? Detroit has such awsome restaurants, I don't know why anyone would go to some lame chain place that you could go to anywhere in America. I think I go to a chain place maybe twice a year when I have no other choice. I don't get it. Chain's in downtown make no sense -- in any downtown for that matter. Who visits Chicago and goes to Planet Hollywood, I mean come on! Leave the chains in Novi!
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Leob
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Chain affiliation aside, the HOB would be one more downtown destination for suburbanites. Furthermore these large corporate pockets would finance what Downtown desperately needs... more LIVE music spaces. There is no value in opening another glow stick illuminated oxygen bar with some snotty nosed D.J. crammed in the corner. A chain location could serve as seed effort for more locally owned and operated music venues.

Leo B
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Elwoodp
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I found this article announcing the opening of the HOB in San Diego last year and a reference to HOB opening soon in Detroit:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/ uniontrib/20050508/news_lz1a08 blues.html
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Mudflap
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Post Number: 156
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What we really need downtown is an Olive Garden!
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Bob
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I wonder if they reevaluated it and decided because of our tanked economy they decided against building here.
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Thursdaynext
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Elwoodp's link reads that after San Diego would be Atlantic City, Detroit and then NY for a HOB. Of these, Atlantic City has opened.

I checked out the HOB website and found this fairly recent press release.

http://www.hob.com/aboutHOB/pr ess/pressreleases/index.asp?pi d=612

So it seems they're opening one in Seattle, but no mentions on their site about Detroit or NY.

I would like to see them eventually open up here. Can't say I'm crazy about chain food, but I tend to think of HOB as more of a live music venue than a restaurant.
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Thursdaynext
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Also found this under their FAQ's.

http://www.hob.com/support/hel p/general/5.asp

So it does appear that Detroit is still on the list.
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Rjlj
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Agreed, Chain's suck. Why would we want to be like other cities with the same venues that they have? Detroit would not get the tourists from other cities if people could stay at home and do the same thing. Sure, it may be new to Metro Detroit suburbanites but we need to broaden our horizons. We need unique venues and restaurants, the same way people were drawn to Royal Oak because of Mongolian BBQ when it was brand new or its other unique shops when it was a cool city. A chain like the Cheese Cake Factory or House of Blues is not going to bring back Downtown Detroit. Hard Rock certainly has not.
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Jimg
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Yeah we DID have a HOB, Soup Kitchen, (not to mention Sully's, in Dearborn). Does Detroit really need a HOB? Guess it depends who the HOB is for...There are joints where blues are available, RJ is at New Dodge Main every Thursday eve, Johnnie Bassett hits around town occasionally, too. Am sure there are a few others...
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Jasoncw
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Post Number: 156
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I've never heard of it, but I think it would be nice to have one. Detroit should have all of the "chain" places that only get to be in big city's downtowns (like Hard Rock Cafe).

And to say that the hard rock cafe hasn't turned around the city of detroit is correct, but it has a positive impact. Coincidentally I'm wearing my Detroit hard rock cafe t-shirt right now, lol.

These sorts of places help downtowns image too.
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Eric
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 9:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chains serve a purpose people like familiry Hard Rock brought people downtown who otherwise wouldn't have come. This applies to the likes of HOB, ESPNZone with only one location per metro they are destinations in themselves like any other local yet they provide the national brand name people enjoy Detroit should be trying toattract these.

You also to remember not all chains are created equal. Places like TGIF are different with so many locations they're not a draw. People will come just for HOB few will come to TGIF unless they're downtown already.



(Message edited by eric on May 25, 2006)
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1953
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 10:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chains have capital to invest that improves streetscapes and attracts other invest, which is hopefully unique to our city.
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Pffft
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Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Johnnie Bassett is at Lola's every Thursday, "happy hour" ...Lola's in Harmonie Park.

A House of Blues would bring in entertainment, pure and simple. National acts, but also local ones, and other clubs would perhaps be prompted to offer that kind of entertainment nearby as well.
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Ron
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One of the biggest benefits from the national chain restaurants is that it is a sign of faith, on a national level, in the future of the city where they locate.

In case no one has noticed, we kinda need out-of-state investment in Michigan right now.
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Eastsidedog
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quote:

What we really need downtown is an Olive Garden!



Yeah! I hate driving to the suburbs for good Italian food!

Seriously, I think one of the best things about downtown is it's authenticity and the lack of national chain restaurants. A good example is greektown, which used be almost all locally-owned Greek joints, now their's a Cold stone creamery! what the %$#%!
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Deputy_mayor_2026
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I second that, and from what I hear, Roma Cafe belittles Olive Garden anyway.
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Oldredfordette
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God, I love Lola's.

But we need more blues venues. Nothing has replaced the Music Menu.
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Mudflap
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I like retsaurants that have pictures of the entrees on the menus so my lazy ass doesn't have to read. LOL!
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Ndavies
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Downtown needs more chains. That will keep the tourists from finding my favorite places. I can keep going there without having to wait to get a table. There's not enough time in life to be stuck pissing it away on a waiting list.
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Harmonie
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OldRed,
Though nothing can ever replace the Music Menu's sense of family, community and good music there are some places that are trying to create their own atmosphere with some of the best the city has to offer. Buzz (part ex-menu owner) has Thornetta Davis, Brothers Groove and RJ (<---playing tonight) on a regular basis plus other staples of Menu days. It also has some newer people to spice things up.
Also, Cliff Bells is shaping up to be a great blues/jazz joint with the Brothers Groove, Odessa Harris and the Gypsy Strings playing there since they opened.
Bottom line...an HOB would be exciting and draw some positive press and some new people but our music scene is doing pretty damn good without it:-)
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Bob
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Yes, when I was having dinner at the Traffic Jam a couple weeks ago they were advertising music at Cliff Bell's on the bottom of their menu.
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Oldredfordette
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I can't wait to get to Cliff Bells. I'm on the Gypsy Strings mailing list and they rave and rave about that place.

Working nights sucks. I only get out occasionally. It's good to know there are a few new spots.

I haven't seen RJ in yonks. Maybe i can take a long lunch...
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Pffft
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Ron's right. It's nothing against the local scene, but of all the chains, HOB does promote and funnel money into local music. It's a good thing all around, and there would be more people stumbling around looking for MORE live music.
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Mike
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I do not like chains, but i know many suburbanites that do. and after draging them to downtown with much reluctance, they prefer going to some place that they have heard of like a House of Blues or Hard Rock.

Detroit already has some pretty cool places to go to for those that are in the know, Detroit needs to attract more suburbanites to sustain and grow.

Of by the way... I was downtown on Saturday, I swear Woodward ave reminded me of South Beach.

Everyone was chilling outside the club, people still dancing in the clubs (even though it was past two) and people were showing off their cars and bikes blasting their music down Woodward.

Everyone just having a good time. Woodward is looking real nice.
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Oldredfordette
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HOB is (in most cities) a union shop!

Of all the big theme chains, I dislike them the least. The local venue closest to it is the Majestic Complex (although I wish wish wish they would work on their sound system). Their food is much better than any HOB too. But we could use something like that in downtown. Maybe on the water.

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