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Viziondetroit
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Post Number: 515
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 65.42.23.2
Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:54 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't able to make it down to the DEMF,

Does anyone have photos or anything to share about the event from this weekend. I was talking to a co-worker and they said the turn out was lower as they are charging now.

Thanks
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Post Number: 838
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The paper said that attendance was up at least 20% from last year, when they first started charging.
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Viziondetroit
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Post Number: 516
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that's good to hear then...
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Sharmaal
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Post Number: 817
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turnout will definately be lower. Alot of folks that weren't die-hard techno fans used to go out of curiousity. Many would stop by before they hit the clubs. Because it was free it was easy for people to convince friends to go with them for a few hours.

In addition, there were many families there earlier in the day. It wasn't rare to see younger kids with their parents around 3pm. This year there weren't many strollers.

All in all, I thought this was the most organized of all the years. Most artists were on pretty close to their slotted times.
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Sharmaal
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Post Number: 818
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By turnout being lower, I don't mean compared to last year, but compared to the "free" years. I'm sure it was up from last year because the organizers had a full extra month of planning and promoting compared to last year.
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Goat
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wouldn't it be safe to say that most events that are free will have a higher turn out than something that costs money?
I'm glad I don't have hear the thump, thump, thump of the repetative bass until 12:00AM now. Well, that and the E-tards returning from the show.
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Apbest
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Post Number: 69
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went sun and monday and it was really packed on sun, probably lower than before but it was still packed. And after monday I went to Lafayette coney, so I walked around downtown alittle and there were lots of people everywhere...even though there was a lot less people @ the DEMF on mon
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Valkyrias
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Post Number: 258
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 11:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have to say, i wasn't completely impressed this year. i think it was partly because of the way they handled the selling of the tickets and the massive line we had to wait in...granted it went by fast, but then once we actually purchased the tickets, i was annoyed that it was $20 and not $15 like i thought it had been advertised as. i don't mind paying the money, but if i had known it was that much more, i would have made more of an effort to get there earlier. the crowds did not seem as big as last year, although i was just there for a few hours saturday night.

i was also suprised at the lack of corporate sponsorship. in a way, i was nice to not be bombarded by corporate america...but on the other hand, having that sponsorship is what's supposed to keep these things free (or in this case, at least keep the ticket prices down). again, i don't mind spending the money because i know that the organizers are trying to re-coup losses from the past and they are trying to continue with a tradition as best they can, but i dunno. maybe i'm just getting too old or something, and remember the good ole days which really weren't that long ago, so it's kinda fresh in the memory.
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Smogboy
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Post Number: 2810
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 12:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not surprised by the lack of corporate sponsorship. A lot of those folks would probably want to allocate money pretty well in advance. The deadline for commitment by the organizers might have been too late to snag some of the coroporate cash.

As long as it happens without losing money is what is most important. I think it's a viable show for the Detroit scene and should happen but not at the point of losing money. I hope that things worked out well so that the organizers turned SOME profit and had some to offset the debt incurred in years past as well. I'd like to hope this event can grow as well.
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E_hemingway
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Post Number: 697
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 12:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saturday and Sunday had some pretty good turnouts. Sunday was the best day of DEMF I have seen in a long time. Hart Plaza and downtown overall were crawling with people. My only problem was after leaving the festival at the end a lot of bars were closed or closing. My girlfriend and I found out the hardway that Jacoby's, DBC, The Hub, Coaches Corner, Cock n Bull, Pappy's and the bar in Pizzapopalis were closed or closing. I had never felt so good about going into Old Shillelagh to drink before that night. Every other place that was open was crowded and alive. People were walking all over the place. The Well was packed and charging a $10 cover that people were happy to pay. I think quite a few downtown bars missed out on some solid business by closing early on Sunday.

Attendance at DEMF Monday during the day definitely was done. I think the heat had a lot to do with it. The heat index was only a degree or two below 100. The Pistons playing didn't help either. But after it got dark, Hart Plaza filled up again. It had a nice crowd by the time Ritchie Hawtin went on stage.

Overall, it was a definite improvement from years past but not on the same level as the festival's initial years.
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Eastsidedog
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Post Number: 431
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 12:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nitzer Ebb put on a very powerful high energy show. Kill Memory Crash was cool to see live again. Always good to see Derrick May bring out the high tech soul and Hawtin bring out the hardcore mechanization. I thought it was cool that the organizers explored the industrial roots of Detroit techno this year with a first ever industrial tent. I was there most of the day Monday and had a great time in the shade, danced my ass off to Nitzer Ebb and chilled out by the river. Great night. Very good vibes all around. :-)
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Spidergirl
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 12:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I went all 3 days, and I think the low turnout earlier in the day was honestly attributed to the temperature. The thought of sitting out in the 80-90 degree sunshine with little shade and $3 bottled water kept a lot of people at bay until later in the evening.

E_hemingway - you are dead on about Richie Hawtin's closing set on the Main Stage.
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 1:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The thought of sitting out in the 80-90 degree sunshine with little shade and $3 bottled water kept a lot of people at bay until later in the evening.

Gosh, if ONLY there were an enclosed building nearby with plenty of seating and air conditioning and bathroooms that could be used in concert with Hart Plaza events to provide relief to the public...

'ello! Wait a tick! Such a building IS nearby. ANd could be invaluable during Hoedowns, EMFs and festivals.

Pity that it's dated-looking and, therefore, unworthy of restoration.
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Detroitduo
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Post Number: 685
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 2:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bitter much, Heather? :-)
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Dabirch
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Post Number: 1509
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 2:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

'ello! Wait a tick! Such a building IS nearby. ANd could be invaluable during Hoedowns, EMFs and festivals.




No, cobo arena is too steep -- those e-kids and the drunk rednecks would be falling out of their seats...
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Itsjeff
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Post Number: 5982
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 2:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ImeanFordAuditoriumyouidiot!
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Dabirch
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quote:

ImeanFordAuditoriumyouidiot!




Those acoustics suck. Can you imagine the reverberations that would occur with the bass driven stuff? not fun -- or maybe really fun.
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Itsjeff
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I was just kinda making the argument to those who argued that Ford is obsolete that it doesn't have to be. A functional Ford Auditorium could be a tremendous asset during the festivals. If not as a performance stage, than for relief from the elements, retail, rehearsal space, etc.
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 1852
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 2:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ford Auditorium??? DEMF is supposed to be an outdoor festival. Now if we just moved Chene park there, everything would be perfect. :-)
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Dabirch
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quote:

I was just kinda making the argument to those who argued that Ford is obsolete that it doesn't have to be. A functional Ford Auditorium could be a tremendous asset during the festivals.




And I was just being facetious because I knew that you were referring back to the the Ford Auditorium thread.

Very literal today, aren't we?
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Itsjeff
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Sorry. Always being right takes a terrible toll on my ability to detect facetiousness.
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Crew
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it might work if Ford Auditorium had first floor retail and adequate parking.
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Jt1
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I heard there is a chain coming to Ford Auditorium. I believe it is either House of Cheescake or The Blues Factory.
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Islandman
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 4:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess everyone wants the rain to come back during DEMF? I don't think the weather's been as nice since 2000.

I've gone every year and can tell you that Monday was a ghost town compared to other years during the day. It did fill up later on. I definitely came to see Nitzer Ebb on Monday. I liked their show at Club X in the early 90's much better. Still good to see them though.
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Mw2gs
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Post Number: 196
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 9:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Louie Vega tearing the place down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZT4taV6m_1o
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Soulsauce
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Posted on Tuesday, May 30, 2006 - 10:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Love Little Louie Vega!

Hate I missed the festival. :-(

(Message edited by Soulsauce on May 30, 2006)
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Adamjab19
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Why are people complaining about the water prices? Did you really think it was going to be much cheaper? It's an entertainment event. They have you by your balls there so they charge.

Just because electronic music tends to have people drinking water as well as yeah it was hot out the prices, I don't think, will ever be lower.


I had fun Monday night when I went. Crowd was a little light but It was just right I thought. Paxahau will do better because they don't seem like one's to sit on their thumbs as did some of the stale producers of festivals past.
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Danny
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The Price $20 a day up to $66 for 3 days. HAH! Too much Captilism added fo the underground techno music world. Techno music music be free to the people who want it. Next year, The DEMF may raise it to $30 or more.
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Sharmaal
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For three days it was $40. You're an idiot Danny.
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Danny
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Sharmaal, The DEMF people can have the people to raise the ticket prices whatever they want. It's profit for underground music. Too much YUCKY media in the way.
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Bearinabox
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I didn't buy a single drink inside the festival. That's what the CVS in the 1001 garage is for. And it's air-conditioned. And if you re-enter DEMF from the riverwalk side, you hardly even need to wait in line for the security check. Sure, there's some walking involved, but to save $2 on every drink I bought it was worth it.
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Iddude313
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I had a good time.
I bought my tickets in advance and just walked right in to pick up my tickets.
It was hot.
What they needed to have was misters spraying nice cooling droplets!
Ahhh!
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Dougw
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They may not have had misters spraying, but there is always Dodge Fountain!
Dodge Fountain
See article at http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060530/ENT04/605300358
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Tomoh
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Agree with E_Hem, it's a shame that certain places were closed. Tried going to Jacoby's later and it was closed, Bangkok Crossing was closed all weekend (I fear that's a permanent thing...) and the Well was closed early in the afternoon when we tried to go. However, myself and many of my out of town friends did patronize many downtown bars and restaurants that were open.

I hope Paxahau was able to break even or maybe even, god forbid, make a nice cash cushion for future events.
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Tetsua
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 5:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =erZtdm5m0c4&search=DEMF

Great videos here
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Mind_field
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Post Number: 566
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anyone hear of any final attendance figures for the festival?

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