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Aiw
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Post Number: 5579
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.156.94.65
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 7:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is today's P.D.J.
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Goat
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Post Number: 8515
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Posted From: 67.71.57.39
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 9:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of the apartments still have the bed that folds into the wall. Very nifty.

Thanks for a bit of history on the building AIW.
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 1878
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Posted From: 129.9.163.106
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 9:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

Some of the apartments still have the bed that folds into the wall. Very nifty.




They're generally called murphy beds. So named after the inventor of the bed. Murphy Beds are currently making a comeback in areas where space is at a premium. There still are manufacturers of murphy beds. I'm looking into getting one for my loft's office. They offer one with bookshelves that roll out of the way.
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Rrl
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Post Number: 515
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 209.181.212.60
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 9:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Ambassador building looks very similar to a group of four that are on Alter Road near E.Jefferson. Same vintage, and similarly the Alter Rd. buildings have murphy beds as well.
I dig murphy beds.
Blue-print sharing?
[Edited for spelling/syntax]

(Message edited by rrl on June 02, 2006)
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Goat
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Post Number: 8518
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Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 10:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks NDavies. I never knew there was a name for them.
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56packman
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Post Number: 335
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 129.9.163.234
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 12:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it were 1/2 half mile to the north (just across the river), it would be a ghetto shithole. Gotta love those Canadians. Keep their cities nice, make kick-ass beer.
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Jjaba
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Post Number: 3862
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 67.160.138.107
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 12:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lovely building. Detroit has scores of buildings like that, documented in Lowell's Westside and Highland Park tours. Sadly, most of these are nearly rubble. There are some in better shape in inner suburbs such as Ferndale and royal Oak.

Thanks AIW. Windsor is preserved so well, on balance.

jjaba.
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Ray1936
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Post Number: 609
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 207.200.116.139
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My eagle eye notes that in 1929 the address was 1042 Ouellette, but the current photo shows an addy of 1382.

Did Windsor have a street renumbering project like Detroit did c. 1918?

Beautiful building.
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Goat
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Post Number: 8523
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Posted From: 67.71.57.39
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Ray they did. I believe in the 1930's they changed the address numbers because of the annexation of Walkerville and Ford city )possibly Sandwich Township too).
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5581
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Posted From: 209.216.150.127
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, 1937.
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The_rock
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Post Number: 1293
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 68.42.251.225
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat and AIW are very knowledgable Windsorites. Maybe Mayor Francis can convince Council to rename their half of the tunnel "Angoat".
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Upinottawa
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Post Number: 405
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 198.103.184.76
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For our Windsor historians, why was Ouellette renumbered when Windsor annexed Walkerville, Ford City, etc, considering Ouellette does not run into those former villages?
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River_rat
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Post Number: 134
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 68.166.44.44
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 2:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jjaba says,

"Lovely building. Detroit has scores of buildings like that, documented in Lowell's Westside and Highland Park tours. Sadly, most of these are nearly rubble. There are some in better shape in inner suburbs such as Ferndale and royal Oak.

Isn't this a sad commentary on Detroit. On another thread someone laments the scrappers attacking a newly vacated building. When will we learn that until we manage our lawlessness (scrapping is stealing!), there is little hope for the city?

Aside -- Jjaba is approaching 4000.
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Haydenth
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Post Number: 81
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 67.107.50.35
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 2:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's quite a few apartment complexes like this that remain in excellent shape in the Midtown/WSU area. Particularly the neighborhoods south of Warren along Cass & Second and the block East of WSU along Kirby and Cass.
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5582
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 209.216.150.127
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 2:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

UIO, the whole city was renumbered, actually twice. I think before that it happened in 1918.

The 1937 renumbering was more of a depression era make work project as well.

The entire city was renumbered with east/west streets being renumbered starting from Ouellette Ave. Each block was assigned a set of numbers. The first block east and west of Ouellette contained numbers 1-99, the second block 100-199, the thrid 200-299, and so on. North/south street followed the same numbering system starting at the river. That is why 100 is the first block south of Riverside Dr., all the buildings north of Riverside were < 100.

As a result of the renumbering every house in the city was assigned a new small oval enamaled steel plaque with the number. Drive around the older neighborhoods in Windsor and you will see them still attached to many houses.

I found mine attached to my porch and painted over. I stripped it and cleaned it up as much as possible, and put it back on the house.
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Goat
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Post Number: 8524
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Posted From: 67.71.57.39
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 2:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

UIO, The city grew east/west and north/south so they had to change the numbers.
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5583
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 64.228.201.99
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 7:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is an example of the 1937 house number signs (and the historic site sign :-)):




(Message edited by aiw on June 02, 2006)
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Upinottawa
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Post Number: 406
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 70.28.0.197
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And who said that you can't learn anything from Detroit Yes!?!

Thanks guys.
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Blitz
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Post Number: 181
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Posted From: 72.139.243.118
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 10:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So that's why so many homes in Windsor have the same address labels, those things are everywhere! Hard to believe they're all 70 years old. I've been wondering about that for a long time.
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Ventura67
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2003
Posted From: 69.245.93.12
Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 11:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love the posts on Windsor, really a great way for us to see the city over the river. I tend to wonder if Canada is an all-around better country in so many ways and these posts seem like an argument to add to that basket.

Wondering why these PDJ's are so heavily Windsor, though? Just a gentle question.

Maybe a PDJ-W and a PDJ-D? I would like to see more of Detroit images in representation. (Surely there's no lack of material).
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Jjaba
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Post Number: 3865
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 67.160.138.107
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 12:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew in Windsor AKA AIW authors the PDJs. He walks around his historic neighborhood and brings it to us, including his house number.

Not to be outdone, Milwaukee and Portland, Oregon had a renumbering program and issued a metal frame with individual tile numbers. You can still affix the same models to your houses today.
The next time you are in one of those cities, look for them. Most older houses have kept them.

Yes, jjaba approaches 4000 posts but he's not there yet.

jjaba, Westsider.
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Aiw
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Post Number: 5584
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Posted From: 64.228.201.99
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 1:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Venture, they go thorough phases, some Detroit, some Windsor.

Since the new website design into blog format there have actually been 64 Detroit PDJ's vs. 61 Windsor PDJ's. :-)

pdj
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Tayshaun22
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Post Number: 210
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Posted From: 69.14.101.116
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 2:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess Windsor schools don't teach basic math.
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623kraw
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Post Number: 915
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Posted From: 68.41.224.200
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 3:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a similar apartment, in great shape, and you won't believe where it is: (Hint: hover the mouse...)
Lee Plaza Next Door
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Danny
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Post Number: 4222
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Posted From: 141.217.173.154
Posted on Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 10:51 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That Apt. is located on W. Grand Blvd. between Linwood and and Lawton right next to the abandoned Lee Plaza Hotel and Northwestern High School. The owners kept that building up. its 90% occupied 99% black, 90% of them are extremely low-income or on welfare and bridge cards or on government assistances. And it stood that way for over 50 years.

(Message edited by danny on June 03, 2006)
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Livedog2
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Post Number: 328
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 24.223.133.177
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 6:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was never aware of the fact that the City of Detroit renumbered their street addresses until I read the comments on this thread. I did a search of the archives on DetroitYes and I googled it but didn't get any much more information. Can those of you that are familiar with the renumbering of the street addresses in Detroit provide anymore background -- who, what when, where, why and how. I am especially interested in how the old numbers jive with the new numbers. Now, some things start to make sense about discrepancies I have encountered.

Livedog2

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