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Ravine
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Post Number: 115
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 69.221.37.173
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 5:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Livernoisyard posted a link to a site devoted to "eggcorns," and I want to thank him for that. Very amusing. Rather than having me try to explain it, best to look it up yourself; his link is on the "New Member--Woooo!" thread. I don't know how old he is, but he would have loved the work of 60's comedian Norm Crosby, who based his entire routine on language screw-ups. ("I have a friend who has reached the absolute pinochle of success.") Professional athletes, many of whom were free-passed through the educational system or skipped it altogether, are known for savagely rending our language, often to hilarious result: "We had a good run, and we can hang our heads high." (??!!) I don't mean to poke fun, in a malicious, demeaning way; the real fault is with our failure to properly educate our citizens, particularly in our public schools. A lot of people I work with (I mean, "with whom I work") are barely literate, and it's not that they are all dumb-asses; some of them are, but some are fairly bright people who got screwed by The System. But, that is for another Time & Thread. What I'm looking for, here, is some fun, not divisive social harangues. So, to wit, ergo, heretofore, henceforth, even though I can go on forever with my own examples, I'd rather hear from you all. Which (fairly common) language screw-ups cause you to grind your teeth? Let's have some fun, without giving in to any temptation to be overly mean. Fire away, gang!!
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Gistok
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Post Number: 2256
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 4.229.72.146
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ravine.... (before the "what does this have to do with Detroit" police get here)....

Whenever I'm on this forum I have to "regulate my vowels"...

I have a buddy who works in building trade... he used "crepit" a lot to describe the condition of a building.... I told him that "crepit" is not a word... but "decrepit" is.

I once overheard a shoe store manager tell one of the workers "this woman returned these here shoes... why don't you help her ratify the situation".
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Ravine
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Post Number: 116
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 69.221.37.173
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok, thanks for the warning about the impending attack, but this thread IS about Detroit, in the sense that every region has its own dialect, and with that comes region-specific misusage. I know that's a weak defense, but I couldn't find the "Linguistics" section. Still, you're right, I should have tossed this thread into the Non-Detroit section. Oops; whatever. Anyone anal enough to get in a lather over my putting it in this section is probably anal enough to supply some fine examples of the stuff I'm asking about.
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Machoken
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Post Number: 1277
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.85.155.145
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 8:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

<---- ...wondering when their going to move this to Non-Detroit Issues....
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Ravine
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 69.221.37.173
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 8:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would move it, myself, if I knew how. I made a mistake, putting it here. Maybe I should start a thread about people who barely know what they are doing when it comes to computers and the Internet. Sorry!!
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Machoken
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Post Number: 1278
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.85.155.145
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I could care less how much you know about computers.
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Andyguard73
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 64.25.200.14
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Machoken sounds a little grumpy today. :-)
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Ravine
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Post Number: 121
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Posted From: 69.221.37.173
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And I could care less that he could care less. So there. Nyaaa-nyaa. I put this thread in the wrong section. So fucking sue me, fer chrissakes.
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Bearinabox
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 69.209.183.172
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't it supposed to be "I couldn't care less?" That one always bothers me...
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Machoken
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Post Number: 1279
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.85.155.145
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 11:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It bothers me alot to.
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Mackinaw
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Post Number: 1686
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 69.221.36.73
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 11:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I could care less."

Let's ponder the meaning of that...yes think about it. The proper saying--if you want to convey that you don't care about something--is "I could not care less."

...joining in this thread of bad spirits.
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7051
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 69.212.37.152
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 12:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heard these before..

"That's a nice lookin' rockwelder you have" is often heard lately around the city (in reference to "rottweilers").

"Someone call ESM, he just fell out" has been heard for many years around the city (in reference to calling EMS as someone just collapsed or fainted.
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 800
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.242.223.42
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People in Detroit cannot say Lahser; it's always Lasher. A number of "English", err "Language Arts" teachers in Metro Detroit have trouble speaking standard English in addition to the much harder task of teaching it.
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Hamtramck_steve
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Post Number: 2995
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 136.181.195.17
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Liver-noise Yard strikes a low blow questioning the pronunciation of street names! If you do a search on this here web sight, you'll find more than one thread about how to say "Lahser".
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Itsjeff
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Post Number: 6044
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 208.27.111.125
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Considering how we pronounce "Gratiot" and "Goethe," we really shouldn't be criticizing how others pronounce their street names.
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Dabirch
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Post Number: 1539
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 208.44.117.10
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Especially considering how we pronounce Hamtramck
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Itsjeff
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Post Number: 6045
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 208.27.111.125
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shut up, Daburch.
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Ray1936
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Post Number: 616
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 207.200.116.139
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 12:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of Gratiot, whilst watching The Weather Channel recently one of the gals noted a severe storm warning in "Grat-ee-ott" county. But I give her an A for effort.
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Dougw
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Post Number: 1166
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 136.2.1.153
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 4:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darnit, Machoken had me going there with what appeared to be unintentional grammatical errors on his part, but when you have 3 in a row, mayhaps it is intended... "when their (they're) going to", "could (n't) care less" and "It bothers me alot (a lot) to (too)". I mean, that's just rediculous.
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Solarflare
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Post Number: 430
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 63.69.106.29
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 4:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There was a guy in our office who would regularly send around emails containing the phrase "for all intensive purposes". I got too much of a kick out of it to correct him. Everyone else did too, or didn't pick it up.

That's just a plain ol' mistake, as for a regionalism, does anyone else hear Michigan folk pronounce milk "melk"? That's the one that gets to me.
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Ravine
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 68.248.8.172
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 4:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, Dougw, he had me there, too. I don't know how someone, on a written post, can manage to "say something with a straight face," but he did it. And-- Itsjeff gets a big star on his forehead for his comment regarding Gratiot and Goethe. I think I should award it to him while standing at a corner of Livvurnoyz. But seriously, we have been pronouncing Gratiot the wrong way for so long that it actually would feel ridiculous to say it correctly. The same with Brett Favre or Notre Dame. Screw Favre anyway, he's a Packer.
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Machoken
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Post Number: 1280
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 207.145.38.104
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 4:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

<---- Taking a bow.
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Machoken
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Post Number: 1281
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 207.145.38.104
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 4:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I gotta say, Ravine, you're responses to my posts were frigging priceless.
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Ravine
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Post Number: 124
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 68.248.8.172
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 5:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That having been said, alls I'm sayin' is, at the end of the day, we are on a slippery slope.
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 802
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.242.223.42
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 5:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Solarflare: In Indiana, the short 'i' and 'e' sounds often get switched: "melk" for "milk" and "iggs" for "eggs".
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Gistok
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Post Number: 2259
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 4.229.81.183
Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 7:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember Emily Litella, Gilda Radnor's Saturday Night Live characterization of a hard-of-hearing commentator....

I loved her topic on "endagered feces" (instead of endangered species).... and her topic on "natural racehorses" (instead of natural resources)...

A tragic end to such a wonderful and funny metro-Detroiter!
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Pamequus
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 07-2005
Posted From: 158.229.218.204
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 8:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From Tallahassee, in north Florida (aka Southern most Georgia) I have to say.......y'all are just way too funny, ya hear??!!??
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Mthouston
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Post Number: 97
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 63.77.247.130
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 8:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How about Canadian English
Dullar, I have one dullar.
Aboat. It's aboat time you got here.
What'cha think eh?
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56packman
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Post Number: 340
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What about the current state of ebonics where nothing is plural and there are no contractions-
"it katrina coat", "he my cousint"
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Gistok
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Post Number: 2264
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 4.229.72.75
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone notice how in Canada they say.... "he is recovering IN HOSPITAL from the affliction."
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Gistok
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Post Number: 2265
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 4.229.72.75
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

English sign in a Rome Italy doctor's office:
"SPECIALIZING IN WOMEN AND OTHER DISEASES"...

English sign in a Thailand tailor shop:
"MEN HAVE FITTING FOR SUITS DOWNSTAIRS, WOMEN HAVE FITS UPSTAIRS"...
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Oliverdouglas
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 69.215.66.154
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chimbley, K-Marks.
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56packman
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Post Number: 341
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gistok, the Canucks also say "she is at University" when descibing an acquantance in college.
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Hornwrecker
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Post Number: 1225
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 63.41.8.116
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Engrish
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56packman
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Post Number: 342
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People from Michigan also pronounce "mirror" as
"mere", as opposed to mirr-or.
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56packman
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Post Number: 343
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Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And then there is the unnecessary pluralization of company names, "I work at Fords"
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Hamtramck_steve
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Post Number: 2997
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Posted From: 136.181.195.17
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 3:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For the last time, that is not a pluralization.

We refer to them in their possessive form, referring to the company belonging to a specific person, as in "I work at [Henry] Ford's company."

It harkens back to when we didn't view them as faceless corporations.
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Mikem
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Post Number: 2587
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Posted From: 68.43.15.105
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 3:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, but then there is the plural of the possessive: "I worked at Fords's."
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Gistok
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Post Number: 2267
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Posted From: 4.229.105.120
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 4:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are other pluralizations... Legos or Legoes (Lego is singular and plural)...

Monies.... I can never figure that one out.... I thought Money is singular and plural?
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Mod
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Post Number: 41
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Posted From: 192.85.50.2
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 5:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I worked behind an auto parts counter where I was frequently asked to price a "cadillac converter". Some couldn't pronounce oil and instead requested "ool".

People who shop at MEIJERS crack me up too.
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Mod
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I worked behind an auto parts counter where I was frequently asked to price a "cadillac converter". Some couldn't pronounce oil and instead requested "ool".

People who shop at MEIJERS crack me up too.
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Mod
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Post Number: 43
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 5:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I worked behind an auto parts counter where I was frequently asked to price a "cadillac converter". Some couldn't pronounce oil and instead requested "ool".

People who shop at MEIJERS crack me up too.
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Dougw
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Post Number: 1170
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 136.2.1.103
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 5:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(ouch, a triple post!)

HamSteve is right, though. Ford and Meijer are someone's names, so in my book Ford's and Meijer's are somewhat acceptable. Kind of like saying "I'm going over to Steve's." Some company names are officially possessive forms, such as Buddy's or Vernor's.

On the other hand, if you say Kmart's, you are retarded.
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 804
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.242.223.42
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 6:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One who triple posts should be hosted on his own petard! Cease and decease in this idiotic behavior! But taken with a grain assault, from my own prospective and vintage point, one should give credit where credit is dew in that he even new how to hit the rite button three thymes and not get his nipples in a twist.

But whoa is me! I shutter to think, by enlarge in lame man's terms when you cut to the cheese, how Lowell has aloud posters with skill levels that run the gambit from a jack of all traits to won mad poster like a bowl in a china shop.

However, I don't no hymn from atom, so wye cut off my nose despite my face? I'll just put the cat before the horse an not bee sew sartastic. Sow without further to do, all weight till the chickens come home to roast.
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Gargoyle
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 24.192.189.109
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Livernois! Where you from? It's "credick", not credit.
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Pam
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 11-2005
Posted From: 4.229.72.206
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 7:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Meijer did have an 's at the end when they started:

http://www.meijer.com/about/hi story.asp
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Umstucoach
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 152.163.100.8
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 8:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, when Meijers got real popular they went under "Meijer's Thrifty Acres."
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Ron
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Post Number: 174
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 66.174.79.228
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Livernois, despite our political differences, that was funny.

Ron

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