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Kimmiann
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Username: Kimmiann

Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2005
Posted From: 155.139.40.51
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From this morning's Detroit Free Press, this article suggests tax cuts are not as beneficial to a region as some may think. I thought the report was worth sharing and am going to take some time to find out more about it's source. In the meantime, what do you think?

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060607/NEW S05/606070315/1122
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Mthouston
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 63.77.247.130
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the article points out some important issue. Michigan's recovery is going to be a long hard road. Tax cuts are not going to be the panacea many groups claim they will be.
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Kimmiann
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Post Number: 42
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 10:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's the website for the group publishing the report: http://www.michiganfuture.org/ I'm still looking for more objective information.
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River_rat
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 68.166.44.44
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michigan Future -- another gang of social engineers who put out paper and little else other than tired ideas.
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Lilpup
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Username: Lilpup

Post Number: 1089
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 69.129.146.186
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:10 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and your contributions are what again?
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Karl
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Username: Karl

Post Number: 2704
Registered: 09-2005
Posted From: 68.230.22.99
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well then, raise taxes even higher, and watch businesses and new residents flock to Michigan?

Or, do nothing and accept the status quo.

Or, strive to become a top 10, low tax state and see what happens.

PS - labor issues might have something to do with it also.
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Ron
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Post Number: 172
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 66.174.79.240
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Republican House Speaker Paul Hillegonds, outgoing Detroit Regional Chamber Chief Executive Officer Dick Blouse and Public Sector Consultants policy guru Craig Ruff"

Yep, one big group of social engineers with tired ideas...............
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Treelock
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Username: Treelock

Post Number: 127
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 68.77.166.98
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

buncha crazed, pan-socialist lefty communists. Burn the report!
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Treelock
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 68.77.166.98
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's cut taxes drastically and stop funding higher ed, Medicaid and K-12 education and quit doling out revenue sharing to cities. Then let's see how many college graduates will flock to our cities, which will by then: offer no recycling or bulk trash pick-up; drastically scale back policemen and firefighters; be full of drop-outs and diseased indigents; have no money for things like blight clean-up or streetscape improvements; have sold off all remaining public parks for revenue; and have crumbling water and sewer lines and roads that resemble moonscapes.

Yes, THIS sounds like a Michigan we can all believe in.
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Bvos
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Post Number: 1492
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 66.238.170.33
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 1:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, and we also know how terrible the economy is in those high tax areas like Boston, Minneapolis, San Fransisco, Seattle, NYC, etc. Thank god all these tax cuts in Michigan are finally paying off!

Keep slashing away neo-cons!
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Alexei289
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Post Number: 1172
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.61.183.223
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 1:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lets just bomb Detroit... sue the government and the insurance companies for treating Detroit different than new orleans and mississippi, then have a shitload of money to build the city of the future.

Fuk, we get punished because we dont live in a high risk area... lets try to collect. Come on.. think of how much construction would boom!




Im just kidding
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Bob
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Post Number: 1020
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 64.12.116.204
Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 5:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just look at the pathetic education system in states like Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, they may be stealing the jobs, but the standard of living there is so much lower than here, their university systems are awful. Yes, we don't need to raise taxes, because that will also hurt us, but lowering them will not be this huge boost to Michigan's economy that people like Dick DeVos would like to make you think. One of the most important things this state could do right now is make higher education affordable to all, and when I say higher education, I don't just mean 4 year colleges, but also community colleges and technical schools.
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Tomoh
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 24.136.10.153
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 12:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Taxes are the wrong place to focus. We keep getting stuck shifting focus away from the real things we need to work on.
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Wsukid
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Username: Wsukid

Post Number: 147
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 69.14.145.38
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 12:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We are not a high tax state we are some where in the middle. Here are some novel ideas that could help michigan recover 1. Actually fund the education system K-College above the level of inflation.
2.Dont introduce immigration bills that make the state look like we dont want immigrants
3. Force regionalism among metropolitian areas
4. Encourage Stem cell research so we can create jobs
5. FREAKING create a new DARTA legislation

of course this wont happen until the republicans lose power
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7milekid
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 01-2006
Posted From: 68.41.222.28
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 1:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what a worthless article, no value whatsoever.
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Rasputin
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Username: Rasputin

Post Number: 3630
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 68.252.70.123
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 2:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shouldn't that title be:

"WHITEballing..."

Nothing Black about theose decisions or the philosophy behind it, nor is it being done by anyone that is Black!! Go figure on continual institutional racism. Code words to the max and slavery ain't dead either!!

Black-atcha .....
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Focusonthed
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Username: Focusonthed

Post Number: 242
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 209.220.229.254
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 2:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha.
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Unclefrank
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Username: Unclefrank

Post Number: 43
Registered: 03-2006
Posted From: 192.85.50.1
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 2:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Our great education system is sure helping us eh!
We just educate people to thrive in other states.
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Livernoisyard
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Post Number: 817
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 69.242.223.42
Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 2:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Granholm wants to tax us yet more for educating workers for exporting to other states at our (meaning taxpayers') expense. Makes perfectly good "sense" to a teacher, teacher unionist, or a politician who is "bought" by the former two.

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