  Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6063 Registered: 10-2003 |
Casino Windsor is getting renamed along with the expansion... Easier to compete against MGM and the likes with a "name brand" I suppose... http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20061215/U PDATE/612150448 | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 398 Registered: 06-2006 |
neato! | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 230 Registered: 04-2006 |
Eh, that casino is going out of business when the passport laws take affect next month. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2006 |
Why don't they get more business from those living in Canada? Not being sarcastic, but frontin' a serious question. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 231 Registered: 04-2006 |
Probably because they're part of a predominantly American metropolis... | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6064 Registered: 10-2003 |
First of all the passport law isn't going to take effect until 2008. Secondly, the casino does attract a large number of Canadians, but the real money is made from the Americans, the tour busses and the like. Windsor is a bit out of the way and not really a "destination". There are two other Casinos in Ontario one in Rama, that is just north of Toronto, and one in Niagara Falls. Both of those easily reach out to the same population base as the Windsor/Detroit metro area. I doubt the Casino will ever go out of business. With the changes already made (Sports Book) and the changes coming with the expansion, I'm certain the casino will remain one of the top ones in the region. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9045 Registered: 10-2003 |
Teh passport "plan" may well be pushed to the middle of 2009. One can only hope. Did you catch Pupatello's name? Dupatello...Perfect for the scam the libs are currently having in Ontario. LMFAO! | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 663 Registered: 09-2005 |
Aiw, I think Iheartthed is referring to the passport needs of those Detroiters who fly to Windsor to go to the casino....  | ||
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude Post Number: 77 Registered: 03-2006 |
Is it possible to just swim across Detroit River and avoid passport crap altogether? But, seriously, is the Detroit River current too fast? Too dirty? Is there like someone or some Border Patrol that scans the river at night? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4899 Registered: 10-2003 |
Uh, yes. | ||
Crew Member Username: Crew Post Number: 1095 Registered: 02-2004 |
Catman_dude, I think if you practice holding your breathe, you should be able to walk along the bottom of the river all the way from Hart Plaza to the casino. | ||
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude Post Number: 78 Registered: 03-2006 |
Really? How long did it take you to go from Hart Plaza to the casino underwater? (Message edited by catman_dude on December 15, 2006) | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9048 Registered: 10-2003 |
There are border patrols on both sides. It is possible to swim across the river, you just have be a very strong swimmer with a lot of endurance. My uncle used to do it in his late teens and early twenty's in back in the early 60s. Teh cop swould wait for him to climb onto land, give him a rest and then told him to swim back to Canada unless he wanted to get arrested....he swam back. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 3759 Registered: 10-2003 |
Damn, that is a feat! The current is pretty damn strong. What part of the river did he cross at??? | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 370 Registered: 01-2006 |
Start at Grosse Pointe, arrive at Windsor near Belle Isle. Arrive back at Detroit near Zug Island...something tells me that would not be much of a pleasure. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9053 Registered: 10-2003 |
Not sure Patrick, but I would guess either near Hiram Walker (Belle Isle) or nearer the bridge. However the bridge may have too strong of a current with many undertows. The next time I talk with my Dad I will ask him. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 3760 Registered: 10-2003 |
I know I'd NEVER try that in the St. Clair River. I had a teacher tell that it has one of the most powerful current sin the world. I cannot verify it, but I doubt its far from the truth. Back in the 20's my grandfather said that he walked across the river when it was frozen. | ||
Douglasm Member Username: Douglasm Post Number: 729 Registered: 10-2003 |
The current between Belle Isle and the Detroit mainland (ie: the hydro course) is about 7 mph. | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 1172 Registered: 12-2005 |
¬ picturing folks in scuba gear sitting around a Windsor blackjack table while trying to act nonchalant.  | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 135 Registered: 10-2006 |
A current in the water doesn't necessarily make it more difficult to swim across, the biggest problem from it is simply that you can't swim perpendicular to the shore so you'll end up down river from where you started. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3249 Registered: 08-2004 |
Getting back on thread, I understand that the no-smoking policy has hurt Casino Windsor slots. Those folks who like slot machines love to have their cigarettes in hand while they are playing. | ||
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude Post Number: 79 Registered: 03-2006 |
You are not in a real casino unless you get your hands all dirty from handling the slot machine quarters with cigarette ash all over them. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 558 Registered: 04-2006 |
I wonder if the Ilitches are going to cry foul and show their Caeser local trademark rights? | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 4132 Registered: 11-2004 |
I just back from Vegas and the majority of the machines at some of the larger casinos out there are now coinless. What paltry sum I did win was issued onto a credit slip (which could be re-inserted BACK into another machine). The sound effects of coins bouncing in the hopper is still there along with all of the bells & whistles but I'm not sure if casinos even want to deal with actual coins anymore. Is the Windsor Casino switching over to coinless machines or are they still dumping those stout 7-11 Slurpee cups of quarters into their counting machines?? I haven't been there in ages. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2006 |
Having never been to the Windsor Casino, why would anyone want to go to their casino vs. one of ours? (serious question). Sports betting is one reason but that is a very recent phenomenon. How are the tables? lower limits? Food and meals? Cheaper? I guess I don't know why anyone would go to a casino in Canada unless there was a REASON. Like going to Canada and customs for the 'helluva it' doesn't make sense to me. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3250 Registered: 08-2004 |
Some people like the complimentary strip search on the way back! | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3251 Registered: 08-2004 |
Little Caesars and Caesars are 2 different names. If there any name infringement action taken, it would have happened long ago. You gotta remember that there are Little Caesars Pizza outlets all over the country... I'm sure that even Las Vegas has them. | ||
Markemarx Member Username: Markemarx Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2006 |
Casino Windsor already has all coinless slots. I believe Motorcity and Greektown do too. I was at Windsor today, and it has been completely revamped with Caesars looking decor. Where there used to be a large waterfountain, is now a modern bar, with very Vegas Caesars Palace styled statues and logos. Already, signs are up saying "Hail Caesar". The remodeling has been going on for at least a year or two, I believe most of the decorations and news of caesars became public at the same time. | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6071 Registered: 10-2003 |
Emu_steve: Why Windsor? First of all it was first. People get comfoartable in what they know. For a long time the exchange rate was also beneficial, but not any more.. The biggest reason? Casino winnings in Canada are tax free. You win $10 000, you take $10 000 home, the same cannot be said for the Detroit casino's. Talking about trademark... Little Caesar's cannot use the Pizza Pizza slogan in Canada, as there is another chain called Pizza, Pizza. The Ilitche's were infringing on their trademark... go figure! Coinless slots from what I hear are the wave of the future, all casinos like them, it cuts down on their overhead. | ||
Bussey Member Username: Bussey Post Number: 436 Registered: 12-2003 |
Who the hell ever wins 10,000? I really doubt the "tax-free" marketing pitch is their biggest draw. You must never gamble I assume. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 560 Registered: 04-2006 |
Geez all of these comments thinking my smart ass comment was serious. You folks need to chill a bit. You from Ann Arbor or somethin? : ) I know pizza pizza is 241-0241! | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 97 Registered: 11-2005 |
There are many reasons people go to CW--most notably, gamblers tend to be creatures of habit--and CW has been around the longest by far, since 1994 to be exact. Others prefer the level of service and/or attentiveness, surroundings, game selection, players club, etc. Some people still enjoy crossing into another country from time-to-time, etc. Of course there are people who would list these same preferences for their own casino of choice--whether Detroit or Windsor--it's like any market with competing businesses--people have their preferences. The fact that people continue to drive past competing casinos to pay tolls, clear customs and come to CW is testament to CWs success. In addition, as a bi-national family--that is, living on one side, having a business on the other and a spouse who crosses daily to work--the supposed "hassle" of crossing the border must be one of the biggest "perception is reality" myths there is in this region--99% of the time it is a "no-problem" experience with both CBSA and USCBP--being able to go back and forth and the variety of shopping, dining and entertainment choices that yields is one of the true gifts of living in this area. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2006 |
slight twist. Okay, I hear you why some like CW. My segui question: Is there any chance that any casinos outside of Nevada (and of course, Canada) will be able to do sports betting? If it can't be done, someone must have prohibited it presumably by law. Is there any Federal legislation? | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6072 Registered: 10-2003 |
Nope, I live within spitting distance of CW too... I couldn't even tell you the last time I was there... | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 98 Registered: 11-2005 |
When the version of legalized sports betting that's available in Ontario (Windsor) came to pass at CW--they made a point of saying that they are one of only three jurisdictions in North America to allow sports betting legally, and that it is only Nevada that allows single parlay betting--whatever the other jurisdiction is, it also requires double parlay as a minimum, like Ontario. The legalized sports betting in casinos in Ontario is an extension of the legalized sports betting that has operated like a lottery since the late 80s or early 90s. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 561 Registered: 04-2006 |
If there was a federal legislation against sportsbooks, they would not exist in Nevada. Thats how federal law works, States control gambling. It would not surprise me if Casino Niagra is watching Windsor to see how well their sportsbook is going. If so, we will be second fiddle to Niagra. | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 99 Registered: 11-2005 |
I might add the professional sports leagues have enormous political clout and are generally opposed to legal sports betting--hence no pro franchises in Nevada (yet, anyway). The NBA made serious waves when they awarded Toronto the Raptors because of the "climate" created by legalized sports betting in Ontario, which at the time consisted of the aforementioned SportSelect/ProLine. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 4619 Registered: 11-2003 |
jjaba goes to Windsor Casino to see Gistok in a Speedo. Reason two is to accumulate Canadian Quarters for his collection of all the new State Qtrs. The Canadian Ten sure beats looking for 50 here. jjaba, joyriding on the Gondola. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 4620 Registered: 11-2003 |
Maybe the Purple Gang can get those ice cutters going again on the Detroit River to Casino Windsor. This is about the right season for it. jjaba, over on Collingwood on the Westside. | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6095 Registered: 10-2003 |
Detroitplanner, Niagara Falls, Ontario casinos also have a sports book. Here is a rendering of the new Casino.  The new tower will be 5 stories taller than the current casino tower. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 671 Registered: 09-2005 |
Aiw, after the next expansion (in 10 years) the Casino will take up 40% of downtown Windsor! | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 9082 Registered: 10-2003 |
UIO, we could only hope! Withthe 1970's style downtown we have now I would opt for anything better than what is currently there (except for a few buildings). | ||
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289 Post Number: 1234 Registered: 11-2004 |
"Catman_dude, I think if you practice holding your breathe, you should be able to walk along the bottom of the river all the way from Hart Plaza to the casino" As long as you dont trip on any dead bodies on the way over ;). 300 years of being a rough town on a river has got to leave some interesting things down there ;). | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 3354 Registered: 08-2004 |
Thanks Jjaba... you certainly can paint a picture with words!! |
