Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 52 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 1:54 am: | |
Detroit is a pretty damn old town. Founded 1701, etc... I realize that Detroit's 'true' built history didn't begin until after the great fire (1806 or so). With this in mind, what is currently Detroit's oldest structure, either abandoned or occupied? I'm guessing Fort Wayne and its surroundings? Anything in Elmwood worth mentioning (even super-old headstones)? Churches? What about the abandoned dry docks warehouse near Chene Park? (Message edited by gsgeorge on December 22, 2006) |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 781 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 7:31 am: | |
There was an old thread on this, search the archives. The answer was the Trowbridge House. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1816 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 8:29 am: | |
Here's one of the threads (this topic has come up several times over the years); earlier threads on this topic may have been lost...would like to see one of these threads in the Hall of Fame! https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/76017/77946.html |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 841 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 9:08 am: | |
One of the oldest buildings was the Alexander Chene house, which dated back to the 1850's. Many of us remember it as "Little Harry's" restaurant". You can thank that urban copulation music diva Bieee--ach Anita Baker for tearing down the Chene so that thier IHOP could have parking. This demolition was carried out in flagrant violation of a court-ordered stay of demolition. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1819 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:37 am: | |
56packman: Although I was an Anita Baker fan at one time, since her husband Walter Bridgeforth had the Chene House demolished, I have boycotted her music!! I'm not a direct descendent of the Chenes who owned that particular house, but we share the same early Detroit ancestral heritage. Dave and I did retrieve a brick and a piece of timber from the Chene House, for heritage's sake. |
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin
Post Number: 3432 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:39 am: | |
Now how old is Ft Wayne in relation to the city? I mean one would think that that would be the oldest structure in the city. Now I know this topic has been beaten to death, but just how old is that complex? |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 4369 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:43 am: | |
Started to be built in 1844 |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3326 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 12:25 pm: | |
... and the officer's quarters (that 3 story building within the fort) dates to 1848. |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 9079 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 12:30 pm: | |
Are there not worker's row houses in Corktown that date back to the 1830s? |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3327 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 12:36 pm: | |
Yes there are Goat... IIRC, after the 1826 Trowbridge House the next oldest residences in Detroit are circa 1834-37 in Corktown. And the oldest (extant) churches are the 1848 Church of St. Peter & Paul (across the street from RenCen), and the 1849 Mariners Church (next to RenCen). It's a pity that the old 1828 wooden Northwest Territory Courthouse/State Capitol building burned to the ground after it was converted to a school in the later 1800's. That was located (obviously) in Capitol Park, and had a nice looking steeple. |
Amy_p
Member Username: Amy_p
Post Number: 738 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 1:32 pm: | |
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Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 185 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:37 pm: | |
Oh my goodness, Amy_p--that's a picture worthy of the elfyourself.com treatment! |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3336 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:06 pm: | |
Kathleen, I feel the same disgust towards Walter Bridgeforth III that you do. I remember after the illegal demo he said that something really exciting was going to go up in that spot... just wait and see.... yeah right... a pancake palace! The National Trust needs to start up a "Hall of Shame". You can bet he would be in it! |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4971 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:13 pm: | |
It's really sad that Detroit lost so much of its history. It's much older than my city of Lansing, but we have structures dating back to 1847 still standing, and quite a few from the 1850's. |
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge
Post Number: 53 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:23 pm: | |
Thanks for all the info, everyone. I'll have to take a look there next time I pass by.
quote:It's really sad that Detroit lost so much of its history. It's much older than my city of Lansing, but we have structures dating back to 1847 still standing, and quite a few from the 1850's.
I agree, it's sad. Ann Arbor has a building near the river from 1830. Ahhh!! it's bill! |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3338 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:46 pm: | |
BTW... aren't remnants of the old Moross House (1740's) found somewhere in Detroit? Or am I thinking of a reconstruction in the Detroit Historical Museum? |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 3339 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:48 pm: | |
Also... Detroit's oldest surviving house, the 1828 Trowbridge House... isn't that just half of the original house that is still extant? |
Neilr Member Username: Neilr
Post Number: 414 Registered: 06-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 10:39 am: | |
Gistok, are you thinking of the Moross House on East Jefferson, a couple blocks east of the Chrysler? It's a red brick house from the mid-1800's. For years, it was the headquarters of something like the Michigan Horticultural Society. The City raised the rent a few years ago and they left. I'm not sure what it's current use or future planned use will end up being. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1820 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 1:47 pm: | |
The Moross House, located at 1460 E. Jefferson Ave., was home to the Detroit Garden Center, is now home to a law firm. As I understand it, a husband and wife bought the place. I thought they were living there, but not sure, and not sure if the law firm is theirs, or if they rent out the House. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1821 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 1:49 pm: | |
Re: the Trowbridge House, "...The house to 494 Jefferson Street was built in 1826 and has undergone several changes. Most noteably, the east side of the house was removed by two of Trowbridge's daughters in 1899 – 1900. This removal made room for 496 Jefferson to be built. The original house had a stable behind it, which now sits behind 496 Jefferson . A small brick structure also may be seen on maps between the house and the stable. ..." From Wayne State U's Anthropology Museum website: http://www.anthro.wayne.edu/mu seum/MuseumCollectionSummary/T rowbridgeHouse.htm |