  Schoolcraft Member Username: Schoolcraft Post Number: 44 Registered: 07-2005 |
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12 /26/sports/baseball/26chass.ht ml?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin Wow, good thing we didnt beat the Yakees in one of the biggest upsets (payroll vs. payroll) in the history of the Major Leagues or pro sports for that matter... The NY Times would really right scam articles tying Detroits Illitches and the Detroit Tigers to gambling and racism. How can an article like this in the New York Times about Detroit not infuriate any Detroit baseball fan...or citizen.? Its such an obvious attack that is so flawed. 1) Look at link to Philly article(Philadelphia is getting land based casinos BTW)and see the gambling connection right back to the New York Yankees..HA HA HA HE HE HE..this was a 5 minute google search..gots to be more stuff out there on this in other organizations. Source:About http://philadelphia.about.com/ od/casinogambling/a/philly_cas inos.htm Quote: ______________________________ ______________________________ ________ “The Silver Family Charitable Foundation was established by Melissa Silver, daughter of Lewis Katz, who is a partner of the NBA's New Jersey Nets and a partner in the YankeeNets, the entity that owns the NY Yankee baseball team and the YES cable television network. Ed. Snider is the chairman and part-owner of Comcast Spectacor, whose holdings include the NHL Philadelphia Flyers and the NBA Philadelphia 76ers. ______________________________ ______________________________ __________ 2) If it is an issue in pro sports...(or just baseball...then why just baseball?Or why is it even an issue?)Then why are the world champion Miami Heat owned by Carnival Corp that gets 10% of their revs from gambling revs on cruise ships……that’s a bout a billion dollars to help pay Shaqs salary 3) The racism jabs...Hmmm 15 year old charges that all sports ownership may/ or was or wasn’t guilty of? Sorry, but isnt it wrong for the NY Times to beat up our hometown Illitches(like em or not) and our beloved Detroit Tigers? Shame on them! Its like my mother. I can talk about her...but you cant! NY Times cant talk about Detroit baseball...we can though.(Now, I take a deep breath! Whew) P.S. I dont have on-line edition of full wall Street article today(On Downtowns redevelopment)...anyone? anyone? Bueller/ bueller?) | ||
Pollybergen Member Username: Pollybergen Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2006 |
Ugh. To me, it doesn't reflect poorly on the team, just the Ilitches. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2006 |
That's a funny article. Bottom line(s): Michael Ilitch with money is presumably a good thing. Like new hockey arena aren't cheap and neither are free agent baseball players (although the Tigs now have their farm system producing great pitchers). I'm new to this forum and therefore don't fully appreciate the history of Ilitch, development, Comerica, historic preservation, etc. etc. but he and his holdings doing well has to mean he has more financial flexibility to do things with the properties he has been sitting on (hopefully just waiting for the right time to say, "Go".). Years ago when I asked someone about a new hockey arena (I didn't know of this forum back then) he suggested that Ilitch was in no financial shape to build a new hockey arena. If that is correct and the Forbes bit is correct, Mr. Ilitch must have had a sharp upturn in his financial fortunes. That's a good thing. Rich men with vision have done infinitely more for revitalizing cities then politicians with bully pulpits and chump change. | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1229 Registered: 12-2004 |
Blah. | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 649 Registered: 11-2004 |
The WSJ story is a letter from the DEGC responding to Robert Toll from an earlier article. Letters to the Editor Detroit: Surprise, the City Really Is on the Rebound 265 words 26 December 2006 The Wall Street Journal A13 English (Copyright (c) 2006, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.) Builder Robert Toll casually dismisses the prospect of Detroit ever witnessing downtown revitalization similar to that of other cities, noting, "I don't see [Detroit coming back] because the economy is so ripped. There is a downtown, but you wouldn't go there" ("Boss Talk: Mr. Toll Turns to Towers," Marketplace, Dec. 13). Mr. Toll may be surprised to learn that downtown Detroit is currently the strongest-performing housing submarket within an otherwise-stagnant metropolitan area. For the past two years, the city of Detroit has, for the first time in half a century, issued more building permits than any other regional municipality, with the vast majority of that new construction concentrated downtown. While Detroit's core is certainly in the earlier stages of its rebound, the pace of revitalization is not, as Mr. Toll suggests, due to no one wanting to be downtown. On the contrary, demand is presently waiting for supply to catch up: A recent market analysis found that, had developers more efficiently capitalized on the growing local interest in urban living, Detroit could have doubled the 2,500 market-rate housing units added downtown over the past six years. Not that Detroit is entirely disadvantaged by quietly slipping under the radar of the national urban-living hysteria. Where else can you still get a sizeable downtown condo, with international waterfront views, no less, in the neighborhood of $200 per square foot? Michael Dempsey Project Manager Detroit Economic Growth Corp. | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2006 |
Typical. I wonder if the reporter made it up or plagiarized it like that other guy a few years ago. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 635 Registered: 04-2006 |
Does this surprise anyone who reads this? Is this really news? | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 449 Registered: 05-2006 |
Was his name Jason Blair? | ||
Buzzman0077 Member Username: Buzzman0077 Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2006 |
I hate the damn new york yankees and everyone of there whining fans who can't understand that baseball is more than just how much you spend and can't admit they lost to a better team. More over I can't stand the BS the times passes off as news. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1987 Registered: 07-2004 |
Definitely an article written by a writer with an ax to grind. Essentially, the writer implies that Bud Selig loves the Tigers and hates the Yankees. Priceless. | ||
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248 Post Number: 319 Registered: 10-2006 |
"The surest sign of success is when men criticize you." Sure sounds like sour grapes to me. | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 642 Registered: 02-2004 |
Wow.. a slam piece about the Tigers from a New York paper. Shocking. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 233 Registered: 02-2006 |
Regardless of anything said above. The article is true. The Ilitchs are playing dirty pool. MLBs stance on casino gambling (especially since we don't have sports books here)is a outdated but if Bud Selig thinks it is okay then it is okay. Anyone wishing to change the arrangement will have to wait for a new/better commissioner of baseball. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1488 Registered: 11-2003 |
Not really. I personally don't think there's a real conflict with the Ilitches owning both the Tigers and a casino, but it's reasonable for a newspaper from another city to raise the issue. | ||
Ohudson Member Username: Ohudson Post Number: 162 Registered: 09-2004 |
If the Illitches divorce, will this stance hold up? Will Marian still say she owns no part of Illitch Holdings? Or, will Mike say "what casino"? When you're married you get half, half of the casino and half of the team, so I have to agree with the article. As I interpret the rules, the Illitches are breaking the rule. The writer is a snitch, and this is sour grapes but it's true. | ||
Rrl Member Username: Rrl Post Number: 701 Registered: 12-2003 |
Or Ohudson, what happens when the ol' Macedonian Parking Lot king dies? The ballclub will have to willed to his kids, not his wife, lest they violate the MLB rules. Wonder if this an issue in the NHL as well? Who are we to suggest that the Ill-itches don't play by the book? We've seen nothing but evidence to the contrary around here. By the way, I happened to finally get by the landscaped & lighted lot at the old M-L site over the weekend. Boy those trees must've cost them hundreds; I think I was taller than just about all of them. Wondering where the balance of the $700K went? |
