Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock
Post Number: 368 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:28 am: | |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 61226/ap_on_bi_ge/detroit_auto _buyouts "Hard times at Ford, General Motors Corp., DaimlerChrysler Corp. and their suppliers mean hard times for Michigan, where all three are headquartered and where the auto industry dominates the economy. The state is on track to lose 336,000 jobs between mid-2000 and the end of 2006, the longest stretch of job losses since the Great Depression" Mostly old news for those of us who are following this, nonetheless it's nice to see some mainstream recognition/empathy for the average Michigander. D |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 250 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 1:42 pm: | |
"He looked at jobs elsewhere, put in three applications out of state and heard nothing. There were a couple places in Tennessee looking for tool and die workers, but they were Toyota suppliers and can barely bring himself to say the word 'Toyota.' He didn't apply." I wonder can he say "homeless"... |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 126 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 3:17 pm: | |
I thought something similar, that he would learn how to say Toyota very quickly if he lost his job. Out of curiosity, can anyone tell me the difference in wages between an average Big 3 factory in Michigan and Toyota plants in the South? |
Fury13
Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1270 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 4:07 pm: | |
One thing to remember: the cost of living is much lower in the South. Housing is ridiculously cheap in many areas. |
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710
Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2006
| Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 5:04 pm: | |
Yes, that is definitely true. I was asking about the Michigan salaries just to get a baseline from which to compare. Once you have the baseline, you can adjust for living costs. What I am interested in ultimately finding out is whether the union workers really have much greater benefits than non-union ones, all things considered. |
Tigers2005 Member Username: Tigers2005
Post Number: 102 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 5:18 pm: | |
Also, ask yourself: If there were no unions, would non-union benefits be as good as they are? I think that non-union workers benefit from unions almost as much as the union workers do. They don't have to pay the union dues, but the union negotiators do the work to set the union benefits and wages where they are at, which non-union companies then have to compete with to get workers. Those are just my rambling thoughts... |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 1157 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 5:46 pm: | |
Yes and the non-union auto workers in the South wouldn't even be making what they're making, if it wasn't for UAW wages. |