  Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 378 Registered: 11-2006 |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20070706/O PINION03/707060360 Gilbert: "before Aug. 1, we will have something to talk about. We're still going through things." Hudson vs. Statler sites. It would be one mega site down and one left to go. That would seem to kill the rumor I heard from several folks that maybe the Comerica building would be the site. (Message edited by emu_steve on July 06, 2007) | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 380 Registered: 11-2006 |
Too bad this forum doesn't have a poll option. 0 Statler or 0 Hudsons You vote, Gilbert decides. ;-) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1393 Registered: 02-2007 |
Hmmm, Come to think about it, I do prefer the Statler site now. It would help Washington, that portion of Downtown and GCP in it's rejuventation. Wasn't it originally suppose to come a Garage anyway? | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1573 Registered: 06-2006 |
This article makes me feel all funny inside! ; D I vote Statler... | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 2396 Registered: 06-2004 |
perhaps this has been the incentive for whatever's going on at the UA - 'marketed with the Statler site' | ||
Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix Post Number: 392 Registered: 03-2007 |
HINT UA BUILDING IS PREPING FOR A LIL MORE THAN A LIL SPRING CLEANING. A STATLER SITE WOULD HAVE AS MUCH IMPACT THAN THE BUILDING OF COMPUWARE. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1396 Registered: 02-2007 |
Keeping Score: 3 Statler 0 Hudson | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1397 Registered: 02-2007 |
4 Statler 0 Hudson (not quite getting the Grammar Downtown Remix, but I assume you're for the Statler Site). | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 1260 Registered: 10-2006 |
I don't think that their corp. HQ would be quite big enough (perhaps even deserving enough) for either site. But in the attitude of Detroiters, any development is good development, so I vote for Statler. | ||
Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 342 Registered: 08-2004 |
6 Statler 0 Hudson (Message edited by leland_palmer on July 06, 2007) | ||
Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 274 Registered: 01-2006 |
It would do for Grand Circus Park what Compuware has done for Campus Martius. I don't think that all the people who say that a company moving downtown has no effect on the region understand what Compuware has done for that area. It has created waaaaay more spin off jobs then if it had just relocated to another suburb. The same thing could happen with Quicken. This would be a catalyst to create all kinds of jobs in the city servicing these employees and maybe getting a few to live Downtown. Long live the growing homegrown company. | ||
Dannaroo Member Username: Dannaroo Post Number: 89 Registered: 05-2006 |
Put me down for one vote for the Hudson's site. I like the idea of a major corporate HQ on what I consider a more high profile site (if only for its proximity to Woodward). And while I agree that placing Quicken on the Statler site could help spur development on the other side of Woodward and along Washington, I would think that it would be much quicker/easier/less expensive to develop on the Hudson's site and in the long run, that wins out for me (and baring nothing but altruism it probably wins out for somebody who has to make these decisions professionally). Besides, I think with the increased activity around the Campus Martius area, the benefits will have to spill over towards Washington sooner or later. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1399 Registered: 02-2007 |
CharlottePaul, If they built a Skyline busting Skyscraper, it would definitely be enough (let's not forget the space for an elaborate People Mover Stop on the site as well). | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 1261 Registered: 10-2006 |
Yeah Urbanize, guess I just don't picture it being half as big as either the Statler Hotel or the former Hudsons building. | ||
Rb336 Member Username: Rb336 Post Number: 425 Registered: 02-2007 |
am i right -- now 7 to 1 statler over hudsons? Remember, Quicken plans to bring other companies with it | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1400 Registered: 02-2007 |
7 Statler 1 Hudson (Jdkeepsmiling, so what site did you prefer or does it matter to you? (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1401 Registered: 02-2007 |
Come to think of it, they should design it like the old Book Tower that was never built, just with the name Quicken instead. That would not only be sweet and unique for Detroit's style of buildings, but I'm sure it would make the Italian Developer smile in his grave and place a blessing on us. (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Kid_dynamite Member Username: Kid_dynamite Post Number: 85 Registered: 06-2007 |
Charlotte... not deserving enough? not big enough? We have roughly 4500 people scattered throughout metro Detroit, plus the Dan's other ventures (eprize, fathead, etc.) I dont understand what you mean. | ||
Kid_dynamite Member Username: Kid_dynamite Post Number: 86 Registered: 06-2007 |
I vote Statler. Its a shorter walk for me! | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1402 Registered: 02-2007 |
8 Statler 1 Hudson (What would blow everyone away is if Dan's vote beats the odds put up by the other members on the site) | ||
Higgs1634 Member Username: Higgs1634 Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2005 |
kid- Will all of the employees be moved downtown or does quicken have "branch" type offices? Just curious. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1403 Registered: 02-2007 |
Besides, think about it. With the Book-Cadillac development, this would sure be a Hot-Rod site. Conventioners would have enough hotel rooms, Walking distance from their destination. Plus, they'll be near Capitol Park ad the transit Station. One World Headquarters would blow that side of Downtown away (possibly further than compuware). I would assume if they built a big enough building (a headquartered type), they'll do like Comerica did and close some of the Downtown branches, although they my leave a few workers at their Livonia location just to serve the people at a smaller bases. (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1430 Registered: 12-2004 |
I vote Statler, though part of me believes that Hudson's would create a greater impact. Either one is a win. Question: How big of a building can you build for $200 million? | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1404 Registered: 02-2007 |
9 Statler 1 Hudson Depends, how much did Compuware cost? | ||
Kid_dynamite Member Username: Kid_dynamite Post Number: 87 Registered: 06-2007 |
who knows, Higgs. If I had to guess I'd say almost all would be consolidated together, with one or two call centers in the suburbs strictly for sales. We are opening up a new call center this month in Southfield that i am moving to. There are a lot of workers from outer ring suburbs that we wouldnt want to lose because of an hour drive downtown. | ||
Emu_steve Member Username: Emu_steve Post Number: 382 Registered: 11-2006 |
Mr. Gilbert: If you read this forum, please vote. Your input is most welcome. Thank You, | ||
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal Post Number: 1169 Registered: 09-2004 |
Why not both? Why not leverage this into a spread-out college sort of campus? By doing that, you increase foot-traffic on the streets of Detroit. That foot-traffic is exactly what retailers are looking for. Imagine, I would leave the GCP building for a meeting at the Hudson Building and stop off at a Jamba Juice on the way! Or maybe, I could stop in at a Brookstone and buy one of those foot-massagers! I'd like to see two 20 story towers and call them "The Daniels" just like the David's. | ||
Dannaroo Member Username: Dannaroo Post Number: 91 Registered: 05-2006 |
Urbanize said: quote: That sounds like criteria for a good friendly wager! If they make an announcement this month, and it's the Statler Site, I'll buy everybody who voted for it a coney dog (up to the first ten votes) and if they were to announce that it is on the Hudson's site, those first ten voters will each have to buy me a coney dog? Of course if there is no announcement or they pick a site other than those two, all bets are off. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1405 Registered: 02-2007 |
Sharmaal, that is the dumbest idea in the world. I could see if they we're right next to each other, but come on. Rock isn't going to invest in two different sites with only so much money and the worker's opinion on it (I'm sure they don't want to be running back and forth to 2 headquarters). (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1406 Registered: 02-2007 |
"Remember, Quicken plans to bring other companies with it" There's the winker right there. If these were separate companies, then Quicken could have one site (Statler), while the other companies had the Hudson site. IF they we're all joint, then just give them one site (Statler). | ||
Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 275 Registered: 01-2006 |
My vote goes for the Statler. The Hudson's site will eventually fill regardless, while the Statler need something of just this type to get used. Also it will be a catalyst for the entire area... | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 884 Registered: 11-2004 |
Those other companies are affiliated with Quicken, like Fathead. So it makes no sense to have separate buildings, by the looks of it it Gilbert wants consolidate his much of his empire under one roof If Quicken does pick downtown then the Statler site would be the better choice Grand Circus is still a skyscraper graveyard and needs big shot in the arm. I just hope the city and state can close deal soon because no matter what site they pick downtown will be better for it. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1407 Registered: 02-2007 |
11 Statler 1 Hudson | ||
Granmontrules Member Username: Granmontrules Post Number: 113 Registered: 01-2007 |
Statler. Be nice if Illitch Family keeps developing that entire area - will pull that whole area together! I noticed the mayor was meeting with Dan Gilbert in Cleveland - I remember a thread a few weeks ago bashing the mayor for being in Cleveland. Guess we shouldn't jump to conclusions. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 1398 Registered: 01-2005 |
Put a vote in there for Hudsons for me... | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 6170 Registered: 02-2004 |
I vote for Statler site for Quicken loans. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1408 Registered: 02-2007 |
lol, I read the Article and it's cute. The two big business Tycoons in the city are somewhat "fighting" over Gilbert's site decision. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1409 Registered: 02-2007 |
13 Statler 2 Hudson (the article states that Hudsons will be cheaper, but any development he makes may be over-shadowed by Compuware, which Gilbert doesn't play ball like that). | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 1507 Registered: 11-2003 |
Statler. If Gilbert is bringing other business with him, you have options like the Whitney, UA for those. Also with it being on Grand Circus Park, its proximity to Comerica Park would give them lots of free advertising. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1410 Registered: 02-2007 |
The Statler site I think would mean a taller Skyscraper due to a smaller area of space. The Hudson Site would favor another Compuware sized building due to a larger area of space. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1411 Registered: 02-2007 |
Don't Forget they also have the Book Building as well. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1412 Registered: 02-2007 |
14 Statler 2 Hudson (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Smitch Member Username: Smitch Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2007 |
quote: The Compuware headquarters cost $400 million to build. From the article: quote:. My vote is for the Statler site. (Message edited by Smitch on July 06, 2007) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1415 Registered: 02-2007 |
15 Statler 2 Hudson (about a 7-1 odd). | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 1508 Registered: 11-2003 |
A way to cut costs would be to build on the Hudson's site, you already have a parking garage there, that could bring the cost of the project down fromwhat it cost to build the Compuware Building. | ||
Rfban Member Username: Rfban Post Number: 115 Registered: 02-2004 |
That also raises the value of the land. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1574 Registered: 06-2006 |
"How big of a building can you build for $200 million" would be smaller in square footage than Compuware, but the Statler sight is less than 1/2 the size of Compuware block so Gilbert's building could end up being a little taller their building in Livonia is a mile away form my house in Northville...I drove by it the other day and it's pretty massive...so who knows? (Message edited by thejesus on July 06, 2007) | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 1399 Registered: 01-2005 |
One of the components to this large project, I feel, could be a Macy's-anchored urban mall (previously speculated about on this site). This would require a larger footprint (aka Hudson's). | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1575 Registered: 06-2006 |
^unlikely | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1416 Registered: 02-2007 |
Not Quite. Macy's Could Very Well Open Along Washington Blvd, serving the B-C, Quicken, and Trolley Plaza | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 950 Registered: 10-2003 |
Statler | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1417 Registered: 02-2007 |
16 Statler 2 Hudson | ||
Southen Member Username: Southen Post Number: 226 Registered: 08-2006 |
My vote goes to the Statler site. That particular part of downtown needs the sort of catylist that Compuware brought for its surrounding area. If Quicken builds big at Statler your going to see spin off in the area. UA will either be part of Quicken or developed on its own, and the Whitney Building owners may finally come up with a plan. Grand Circus Park may finally get the foot traffic it should and be turned into a bustling urban park like Campus Martius is. The Hudson site is prepped for some midrise structures and a developer who doesnt want to risk too much in building downtown. Gilbert doesnt fit that, hes going to want to do something, or trump, what Karmanos did with his company downtown. I expect something grand at the Statler site. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1578 Registered: 06-2006 |
^not to mention Broderick | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1418 Registered: 02-2007 |
17 Statler 2 Hudson | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 685 Registered: 01-2006 |
My vote is Statler Site. Just yesterday morning I walked from Cobo to Grand Circus Park via Washington. Between the BC Hotel and GCP I encountered exactly 3 pedestrians...at 10AM!! The spinoff from a statler move would be greater, in my opinion than a hudson site move. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1424 Registered: 02-2007 |
lol Detroitstar. Yeah, 3 pedestrians on a Historically Upscale Boulevard in Downtown Detroit is sorry 18 Statler 2 Hudson | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 564 Registered: 07-2006 |
Statler. | ||
Brandonhgt Member Username: Brandonhgt Post Number: 17 Registered: 05-2006 |
Statler, our apartment overlooked GCP at the Kales and it sure would have been nice to see non-homeless people enjoying the park. The Statler should also give Quicken decent visibility if Gilbert goes high enough. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1426 Registered: 02-2007 |
20 Statler 2 Hudson | ||
Planner_727 Member Username: Planner_727 Post Number: 119 Registered: 07-2006 |
 Somewhat off topic: maybe I'm just picky/eager to point out flaws, but this map from that article has a very curious choice of symbols. Most of Downtown is green, but there are some odd gray shapes, and then a smattering of random buildings (also note that the block adj to cadillac square is now full!). A few buildings are orange (Compuware, what looks like the lobby of the first national bldg, etc) Also bad mapping to show the "sites" in the same color as the existing buildings shown! Wierd! | ||
Southen Member Username: Southen Post Number: 228 Registered: 08-2006 |
It looks like a map they would have used for the Campus Martius master plan that they just decided to use for Quicken as well. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1428 Registered: 02-2007 |
Yeah, that is weird. Ah well, just ignore it and pay attention to the point they're trying to attach with it. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 574 Registered: 03-2006 |
21 Statler 2 Hudson | ||
Planner_727 Member Username: Planner_727 Post Number: 120 Registered: 07-2006 |
Also, I'll make it 22 Statler 2 Hudson The power/capital involved with Quicken (and hopefully others) makes the Statler site a MUST. Although the site is clear, the AAA building will need to be dealt with, parking is an issues (link to GCP won't cut it), and hopefully the size of this project can include the Tuller, Statler, and UA sites to really fix that hole up. THe Hudson is truly a development opportunity for a variety of service and retail business and office, with existing office workers nearby, residential units across the street, and a site that literally has the basement (and parking) already built. (Message edited by Planner_727 on July 06, 2007) | ||
Planner_727 Member Username: Planner_727 Post Number: 121 Registered: 07-2006 |
... oops ... (fixed) The "hole" Hudsons has is large, but having a whole 1/4 of the grand circus park frame empty really gives that side of the park a very unpleasant feel. Just a people mover track and some gravel. (Message edited by Planner_727 on July 06, 2007) | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 1242 Registered: 11-2004 |
Statler. Although Hudson's makes more sense on so many levels, Statler has the chance to make a bigger splash and that's what it seems Gilbert wants the most. Some things that will become distinct possibilities after Quicken's move is announced: -- ePrize announcing its moving to downtown with Quicken -- Creating a legit mass transit line, i.e. light rail, on Woodward will become a priority -- Some of the dead skyscrapers, such as the UA and Whitney, being revived if it goes up at the Statler site Gilbert could further maximize his publicity if he made the new building as environmentally friendly as possible. Regardless of what externalities come about from Quicken moving to downtown, it will make a splash comparable to Compuware's announcement of moving to downtown, especially with all of this built-up hype. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1429 Registered: 02-2007 |
Doesn't Trolley Plaza have a big fat garage that's not fully in use? They could use that one and possibly build an underground one. | ||
Kid_dynamite Member Username: Kid_dynamite Post Number: 89 Registered: 06-2007 |
Parking is something that needs a solution. There is not nearly enough in close proximity to either site. Just drive by our parking lots in Livonia, or our offices in Troy, Farmington Hills, or Laurel Park. These are GIANT parking lots filled to capacity. What we do at the headquarters in Livonia is rent out additional parking 1/2 mile away at Greenmead Park and run shuttle busses back and forth about 14 hours/day. I know that something along these lines will have to happen, too. A big structure would be built not far from the CBD with continual shuttle service. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 954 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20070706/NEW S01/70706022/1003 "Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and Livonia Mayor Jack Engebretson will exchange keys to their respective cities July 23 at a meeting of religious and political leaders to mark the 40th anniversary of the Detroit riot." Ok, probably totally unrelated. Headline just caught my eye though since I have Quicken on the brain today. | ||
Ganib_ganabs Member Username: Ganib_ganabs Post Number: 56 Registered: 11-2003 |
If they built tall and skinny on the Madison-Lenox site then they would get free advertising during Tiger games... | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1431 Registered: 02-2007 |
That's nice. Thanks for the article. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1432 Registered: 02-2007 |
Ganib_ganabs, that's not one of the Chosen Sites. Very Good suggestion though. Maybe you should recommend it to Quicken or Gilbert. (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar Post Number: 687 Registered: 01-2006 |
I bet the Livonia key will be a fake so they can still keep the "Detroit people" out. | ||
Tompage Member Username: Tompage Post Number: 32 Registered: 01-2005 |
Another Statler vote! | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 956 Registered: 10-2003 |
LOL they'll give the key but change the lock. | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 1195 Registered: 12-2006 |
Another Statler vote here. 24 Statler 2 Hudson | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1435 Registered: 02-2007 |
24 Statler 2 Hudson (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Ganib_ganabs Member Username: Ganib_ganabs Post Number: 57 Registered: 11-2003 |
Urbanize.... Who chose those two sites? Its sounded like speculation (still) on the the writer's part to play up his Illitch-Statler vs. Karmanos-Hudson's block theory. I know those are the two obvious sites though, and I vote Statler, for the fact they can built 50 stories and rent the rest out... | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1436 Registered: 02-2007 |
Tell ya what, I'll put you as other then If you prefer the Madison-Lenox site (remind you, owned by the Ilitches). | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1437 Registered: 02-2007 |
By the way, as Ganib_ganabs states (which he's right) that these are only speculated sites, which site would you prefer. It would go under the "other" category. I will remove your vote from the Statler or Hudson choice as well. (Most Likely Sites) 24 Statler 2 Hudson (Other Sites) 1 Madison-Lenox (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Ganib_ganabs Member Username: Ganib_ganabs Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2003 |
I don't think there is any parking opportunities at Madison-Lenox. I doubt anything will be built there, except for a parking garage, with first floor retail, of course. | ||
Kslice Member Username: Kslice Post Number: 85 Registered: 04-2007 |
Statler. The hudson site is kinda riding the compuware wave (even though theres nothing there). Gilbert should want to make his OWN wave rather than ride compuware's, and i think he does. Some kinda light rail/ people mover extension would have to take place if they moved to the statler. New center is BUSSY during normal work days. And I bet some of them would like to move downtown easily after work or on lunch or for business. | ||
Slider Member Username: Slider Post Number: 8 Registered: 06-2007 |
While I'd like to think it would end up on the Statler site, I just can't escape the notion that the underground parking on the Hudson site might just win out. Besides, I've always been one to root for the underdog, put me down for Hudsons. Statler 24 Hudsons 3 (from my best calculations) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1438 Registered: 02-2007 |
They could build a garage on the surface lot at Beaubien and Madison, but it will be a brief walk that I'm sure the workers aren't willing to take. But really, which site would you prefer. It doesn't have to be of the 2. (Most Likely Sites) 25 Statler 2 Hudson (other) 1 Madison-Lenox | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 1400 Registered: 01-2005 |
I don't think there's a possibility of Madison Lenox, and I would argue against it for many reasons. I've always thought the PRIMO spot would be the monroe block. It would make more sense to have a large office building there than on Statler (this is more residential now), PLUS Gilbert would have a foothold on Campus Martius and be right in the mix there. So vote 1 for Monroe block please. ;) | ||
Southen Member Username: Southen Post Number: 229 Registered: 08-2006 |
The reason Statler and Hudsons are mentioned are because the city owns them and those are the parcels they are dangling in front of Gilbert. I doubt Illitch would give Gilbert a sweet deal on ML like the city is going to give on either Statler or Hudsons. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1439 Registered: 02-2007 |
(Most Likely Sites) 25 Statler 3 Hudson (other) 1 Madison-Lenox | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1440 Registered: 02-2007 |
(Most Likely Sites) 25 Statler 3 Hudson (other) 1 Madison-Lenox 1 Monroe Block | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 958 Registered: 10-2003 |
Did Ganib really vote for madison lenox? Because a few posts later he said "i don't think anything will be built there". Confused. | ||
Ganib_ganabs Member Username: Ganib_ganabs Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2003 |
Put me down for the Statler, although Campus Martius Park flanked by Quicken on the the Monroe Block and Compuware, would almost complete the original vision for the development. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1441 Registered: 02-2007 |
I don't know. He attacked me when I said it wasn't a possible choice. But I see, he voted Statler. (Most Likely Sites) 26 Statler 3 Hudson (other) 1 Monroe Block | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 240 Registered: 03-2006 |
Just to clarify, are they talking about just the Statler Block, or is the "Statler site" really both the Statler and Tuller blocks? | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1442 Registered: 02-2007 |
Most likely both. If that's the Tuller site next to the UA I'm looking st, wouldn't they have to cut off Bagley? | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1443 Registered: 02-2007 |
"With the Westin Book-Cadillac Hotel renovation moving ahead at the other end of Washington Boulevard and little else along there redeveloped, the Ilitches are anxious to see Gilbert on the Statler site, alongside their United Artists building they are co-marketing with the city-owned Statler site. The Statler is smaller and likely would be more expensive to redevelop into a corporate headquarters. But its position on Grand Circus between Washington and Bagley would give Gilbert and Quicken the chance to be the kind of catalyst for change Compuware has been for Woodward and Campus Martius." Never Mind. They're using the Statler site, not including the Tuller Site. (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Mod Member Username: Mod Post Number: 110 Registered: 07-2004 |
1 - JLA, once new arena site is built. | ||
Dbest Member Username: Dbest Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2007 |
If this happen's I will drive to Detroit from Indiana to show my support for what Quicken (Gilbert) is trying to do at the groundbreaking! Like many of you out of state Im sure your friends are sick of hearing about all the speculation associated with the move and I will finally be able to share this victory for Detroit with them! BTW, I'm in favor of the Statler site and seeing the UA alive again. Get it done MICHIGAN! | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1444 Registered: 02-2007 |
(Most Likely Sites) 27 Statler 3 Hudson (other) 1 Monroe Block | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 3173 Registered: 02-2005 |
Enough with the teaser stories. Just give us an announcement! This is exciting no matter where they build. If I were Gilbert I would like to stay away from the greasy Ilitches and their parking lot empire in that part of downtown, but I think building on the Statler site would have a huge impact, effectively stretching our CBD to the NW necklace of downtown where there are currently few daytime workers and few pedestrians. This would work wonders for GCP and Washington Blvd. I can't wait to see Woodward get filled in at the Hudson and Monroe blocks, but I think both will be filled within the decade regardless, and it will be sped up by Quicken's downtown move. So, therefore, I vote that it will be the Statler site. Of course, no one will be disappointed if they go for the Hudson block. The skyline view from the north and northeast, and from Comerica Park, will change a lot with this, and the street-level ambience in GCP will also change alot for the better. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 1446 Registered: 02-2007 |
(Most Likely Sites) 28 Statler 3 Hudson (other) 1 Monroe Block Well the other 25 people (including me) who wanted the Statler block to be chosen will be disappointed because it will just be a continued useless lot for years to come. However, the other 3 folks and you that wanted the Hudson Block will be very happy. Although us at the Statler will get over it just because it's economic opportunity in Downtown. (Message edited by Urbanize on July 06, 2007) | ||
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2006 |
Put me down for the Statler site |
