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Username: 7_and_kelly_kid
Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 2:46 pm: |    |
hey...........nobody confirmed I'm rite about chatham Village.........Mike you may have me on the original though..............was it pollas?..........I could ask you for the mgr.s name but....................and Pgn421........c'mon down to Rosewood..........more later |
Pgn421
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Post Number: 249
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 5:28 pm: | |
7andkelly? rosewood or Billeos? there is adifference, stopped at Candelite today, |
Postbop
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 6:50 pm: | |
I don't think you can see Chathams from this pic, but is still a pretty cool view of Kelly Rd. |
Postbop
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 17, 2007 - 6:52 pm: | |
Does anyone know what year they finished I-94, north of 8 mile, and what the area was like before it?
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7_and_kelly_kid
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Username: 7_and_kelly_kid
Post Number: 33
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:50 pm: | |
KR...........looking at the pic of Kelly Rd. tells me the original Chathams' was where Alcomo's hall is......(oh oh I'm going to have to change my posting on the Heilman thread to Aldos"••••••••• |
Gistok
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Username: Gistok
Post Number: 5924
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 2:43 pm: | |
I remember going to Chatham #1 store as a little kid in the early 1960's. It was located just a few blocks west of the Vegas Supermarket. Can't remember it's exact location though. It was much smaller than most other Chatham stores, and closed in the mid 1960's.
Chatham #2 was located near where Kelly ended at Hayes. Chatham #7 was located at 8 Mile & Gratiot, and Chatham #8 was located at Morang & Kelly.
IIRC, the Chatham that later became the Vegas Supermarket was Chatham #5, not the original one.
They expanded I-94 from 8 Mile northward circa 1962-63. |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 126
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 4:20 pm: | |
I recall a Chatham on Houston-Whittier/Kelly, not Morang. |
Postbop
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 7:16 pm: | |
Thanks Gistok |
Dave70
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Username: Dave70
Post Number: 24
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 7:43 pm: | |
There was a Chatham on Morang & Kelly, it was the one my family shopped. We lived on Riad, just a couple blocks away. |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 127
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 9:20 am: | |
Dont remember that one. We lived on Laing near Yorkshire & shopped at the Kelly/Whittier location.
Also, loved having Towne Club, Lawsons & Dino's Pizza at Laing/Whittier. |
Dave70
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 08-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 6:54 pm: | |
I remember those shops over there. ;) Didn't go to those much though a friend always had the case of Towne Club. |
Danny
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Post Number: 6898
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 8:21 pm: | |
Postbop,
The I-94 FWY. was started as the Willow Run FWY. It went from the Ford Willow Run Plant to the Metro Airport in September of 1942. By July of 1943 The Detroit Industrial Freeway ran from Metro-Airport to Michigan Ave. to transport Military surplus and workers during WWII. The Edsel Ford FWY was completed from 1951 to 1955 and it reached the Lodge FWY. The last stretch of the Edsel Ford FWY was completed in 1959 and it ran to Port Huron.
NOTE: It one time all of the Metro-Detroit was proposed to have a light rail transit lines in the middle of the FWY. But it was cancelled because the U.S. government will not pay for its construction, only for FWY construction. |
Danny
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Username: Danny
Post Number: 6899
Registered: 02-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 8:44 am: | |
Its so sad that half of Harper Rd. business district had to be torn down for the FWY. I wish the FWY. construction workers divert the FWY. to curve up to the industrial areas up on City of Warren and curve a right turn to other underdeveloped areas of Roseville, Clinton TWP, Macomb TWP. and all the way up to Port Huron. |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 128
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 8:49 am: | |
I discovered a little market in A2 that sells the new ver of Towne Club, its not bad! |
Meaghansdad
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Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 209
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:34 pm: | |
I've been going into the new high school for swim lessons with my kid. Those kids are tearing the place up. Baseboards scarred. Writing on the wall. Insane!! |
Fareastsider
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Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 775
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 9:47 pm: | |
It was 1964 when the freeway was completed from about 9 mile to Port Huron. If you look at the aerials from SCS and Roseville on the DTE old photos you can see the line of torn down homes where the freeway will go I believe it is the 1961 photos. |
Pgn421
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Post Number: 277
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 6:47 am: | |
MEAGHaNSDAD- do they have open swim at the new high school? |
Norwalk
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Post Number: 170
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 7:46 am: | |
Yes, My son graduated in 2001 from the old Harper Highschool. He went to visit an old teacher and to check out the new school and he made the same comment about the school looking beat up already |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 129
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 11:53 am: | |
Wow, really, already?? My son plays floor hockey over there, but I havent been inside yet. I hope they take action soon. |
Al_t_publican
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Username: Al_t_publican
Post Number: 208
Registered: 06-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:22 pm: | |
What became of James Haley the former principal of HW Jr High in the 60s and later the mayor of HW? Also, does anyone remember Ron Western the HW cop who was the coach of the 1988 HW Little League team that won the state championship? I never did get a clear answer on what sort of sentence he received over his misconduct with Little Leaguers. |
Mauser765
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Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 2349
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 6:15 am: | |
Anybody go to the Kucinich rally at the HW Community Center Monday ? It was past capacity by about 150 people. The police had to lock the doors. I was there for work, but it was still an interesting event. Cool to have any of the people in this race visit Harper Woods. |
Mauser765
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Post Number: 2350
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 6:22 am: | |
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Margarite
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Username: Margarite
Post Number: 55
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 12:15 pm: | |
I was there! I was pretty impressed by the man and the turnout. Got there just past 6:30 and snagged an aisle seat in the second row. I wasn't going to vote in the primary even after the rally but on Tuesday found a website that lists the candidates stands on animal welfare issues and decided to vote for Kucinich. Of course, he doesn't have a snowball's chance for the presidency but it felt a lot better than not voting at all or being "uncommitted". |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 130
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 12:05 pm: | |
Yeah, as I got off the freeway after work I noticed his bus parked in front of the Comm Center & the place was jammed. I do remember thinking it was extraordinary having presidential candidates visit our little town. |
Meaghansdad
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Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 211
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 2:07 pm: | |
Yea, they've got open swim. They also have a TON of teenagers running about, milling in the hallways, cursing, pants hanging off of their asses. |
Mauser765
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Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 2357
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2008 - 7:54 pm: | |
"cursing, pants hanging off of their asses."
Hahahahaha ! Gawd I hate that. |
Pgn421
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 8:45 am: | |
Thats what i figured! Thanks Meaghansdad! |
Applesauce
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Post Number: 131
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 9:55 am: | |
Guess we wont be signing up for swim. |
Pgn421
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 02-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 1:51 pm: | |
Applesauce!- Nope. |
Meaghansdad
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Username: Meaghansdad
Post Number: 215
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:34 pm: | |
If I hadnt paid for the entire season, I'd have never stayed for the first lesson. The behavior of some of those kids are deplorable. |
Eastsidedame
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Username: Eastsidedame
Post Number: 192
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 3:44 am: | |
1964 seems too for the completion of the freeway past Vernier. I remember trips to Warren and back that would involve getting off at Vernier and driving west to Gratiot, Hoover or Schoenherr. Once the freeway was finished, I realized what a time-saver it was. |
Applesauce
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 9:55 am: | |
bump |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 136
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 10:05 am: | |
I finally got to see the new HS as I registered my son for HWLL this past Saturday. Although, I only saw the main lobby, it did look very nice. Some of the people were talking about how they are going to build an outdoor ice rink in the next few years. |
Billyg
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Username: Billyg
Post Number: 4
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 10:39 am: | |
If your a taxpayer in this city and you dont use what the city offers you because you think the kids are out of control then they already won. Its not going to turn around on its own. If people stand up for what they believe and the city comes together it will turn around. If everybody turns its back on it then the city doesnt stand a chance. These homes are our investments dont give up. We as a community can change this town but it going to take effort and pride. |
Applesauce
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 1:48 pm: | |
Billyg's got a point. I've been involved in HW Little League for the last 5 years or so & its only as good or strong as it is because of the people/parents. The first few years I thought my son would be better off in the GP little league, but from what I've seen & been involved in, there's no better organization than Harper Woods. The parents genuinely care & volunteer a lot of time to make the league great.
Now, I cant see why this same successful model cant crossover to other areas. I do understand that it starts with me, & thats the challenge. Changing the mindset, starting over, surely a worthy endeavor. |
Mauser765
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Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 2395
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 2:21 pm: | |
HW didnt cancel school today did they ? I think the Pointes held out, as did Utica Comm. and Warren Con.
Turns out the supers won this gamble, I didnt see any new snow until 2 pm. Wasnt as bad as predicted, but I still question the supers motivation on days like these. To them it is a labor issue, not an educational issue. They want every hour out of their employees basically. There is no one single school day that is EVER worth risking the children or staff safety, let alone clogging roads with buses and parents.
And yeah, I think Billyg has a real good point. Mayhaps we should all start frequenting council meetings as a group. |
Dds
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Post Number: 531
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 2:39 pm: | |
quote:let alone clogging roads with buses and parents.
Harper Woods hasn't bussed their students for at least 8 years. |
Applesauce
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 3:32 pm: | |
He did mention Utica & Warren which do bus. |
Mauser765
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Post Number: 2397
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 4:27 pm: | |
Utica Community Schools has a large volume of buses. Way to pick gnat shit outta pepper there, Dds.
fudgie. |
Goblue
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Username: Goblue
Post Number: 1057
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 8:25 pm: | |
Mauser: Trust me on this one...as a retired supt. with experience in MI, IN , AL, & AK...calling a snow day is an absolutely lose-lose decision...I've called them right..and wrong..both ways. I guarantee you that the decision is NOT made regarding "labor issues"...whatever the hell that means...the decision is made around 4:00 in the morning based on information received from drivers in the field and the best weather projections we can come up with...on absolutely safety issues...NOTHING more. Your cynicism is misplaced! In short...you don't know what the hell you're talking about! |
Lafontaine
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Username: Lafontaine
Post Number: 13
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 8:34 pm: | |
The segment of I-94 just north of 8 Mile opened in 1966.
This is from michiganhighways.org:
1966 - An additional 7 miles of I-94 is opened from M-29/M-102/Vernier Rd in Harper Woods to the end of the completed freeway in St Clair Shores at Masonic. Any "TO I-94" designation along US-25/Gratiot Ave is removed.
http://www.michiganhighways.or g/listings/MichHwys90-99.html# I-094 |
Meaghansdad
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Post Number: 219
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Friday, February 01, 2008 - 9:58 pm: | |
GoBlue
Well then y did Detroit wait until 7am to call school? |
Goblue
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 1:58 pm: | |
Meagh: Sorry...DPS is another world...I have no idea what their decision making process might be...probably about the same as any other large bureaucracy...obviously, if they waited until 7:00 A.M. to get the info on the radio somebody was asleep. The largest district I ever managed was around 40,000 kids (about 75 schools)...in that one the decision was made no later than 5:00 A.M....sometimes wrong...most of the time right. Like I said...its a hellish decision most of the time...I remember one day when I decided to stay open...and all other districts around me closed...usually we tried to make group decisions but that added even more complications...in that one case I got it right...by 9:00 it was sunny and the temp got up to 50 that day...whatever though...safety of kids was the driving issue...but we also worried a lot about single parents and how kids would be cared when we closed unexpectedly. |
Meaghansdad
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 2:16 pm: | |
PArental worries are paramount, glad to hear it is a consideration. |
Goblue
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Post Number: 1070
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2008 - 8:51 pm: | |
Meaghan: To tell the truth I am real glad that I am retired from having to make those kinds of decisions.
Since this is a Harper Woods thread I would point out that very early in my career we lived on Lochmoor...a couple of blocks west of I-94...I was working in Warren Wds. at the time. |
Mauser765
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Post Number: 2408
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 11:17 am: | |
Well GoBlue, I am speaking from the other end of the bargaining table. Tell me there is not an adversarial relationship between administration and teachers. Thats all I mean by "labor".
Again, no single school day is ever worth risking anybodies safety, and supers insist on making it such a dramatic decision. Just my biased point of view, not really anything to debate. |
Mauser765
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Post Number: 2409
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 11:20 am: | |
Back to HWs - I think we should find out about all these rumors of athletic facilities or recreation facilities etc. If anybody knows a person with inside info, please ask them. I know somebody, and I will ask her to check into the citys plans for the park and the old school parcel. |
Goblue
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Post Number: 1082
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 7:45 pm: | |
Mauser: Well...the relationship was adversarial at times...but, I sat across the table from some real union professionals...twice that I can think of they helped me fire tenured teachers who had no business being in the same room with a kid. I tried to be fair at the table...keeping myself...and the union folks...mindful that pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. The union leaders who were classroom teachers and not union professionals were far less easy to work with...they tended to not understand that it could be a win-win situation...and unfortunately they also tended to be rather weak teachers.
I'm not certain what you mean by "dramatic decision"...at 4:00 in the morning while trying to figure out what the roads are like and how the projected forecast plays into the picture nothing is "dramatic"...certainly not while everyone else, except those working on the decision, is sound asleep!
I'm almost 40 years removed from living in HW...so I'll let ya'll get back to the main point of this thread. |
Mauser765
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Post Number: 2412
Registered: 01-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 8:21 pm: | |
Anyway - back to HWs. |
Meaghansdad
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Post Number: 228
Registered: 07-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2008 - 11:08 pm: | |
My sons piano teacher is Pro-Tem on City Counsel. I hadn't thought to ask her. I'll do so at his next lesson. |
Dds
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Username: Dds
Post Number: 533
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 8:24 am: | |
quote:Utica Community Schools has a large volume of buses. Way to pick gnat shit outta pepper there, Dds.
fudgie.
Fine for Utica. And I was talking about Harper Woods. The topic of this thread. Don't get your underwear in a bunch because I was clarifying a statement you made that a majority of the forum readers (who haven't a clue about Harper Woods) could have misconstrued because you listed two districts with busing and two without.
Anyway - back to HW. |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 141
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:36 am: | |
Anyone know what the heck's goin on with the Shore's
Theater? Its been closed for a few years now. |
Applesauce
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Username: Applesauce
Post Number: 146
Registered: 06-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 7:26 am: | |
Got my assessment in the mail............ it actually dropped. |
Postbop
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Username: Postbop
Post Number: 123
Registered: 09-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 - 4:06 am: | |
Can someone tell me what year the Parkcrest Motel opened? |
Denbytar64
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 6:30 pm: | |
Postbop, do not know what year it opened, but we use to go their for breakfast. My Fathers office was the last office building before Regina High School. This was in the late 60's. |
12468_laing
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Post Number: 367
Registered: 07-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 3:45 pm: | |
Postbop, I know for pretty sure it was there in the early 60's - my father worked at Fruehauf, and many of their visitors stayed there. |
Mikem
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Username: Mikem
Post Number: 1887
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 9:21 pm: | |
It is listed in a 1961 phone book I have, and my relatives seem to think it was built in the late 1950s. |
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