  Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 151 Registered: 07-2006 |
Dominican closed in 2005 and I believe been reopened as the Winans Academy. Pictures to follow. | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 184 Registered: 07-2006 |
Thanks, Max. I can't remember if you've posted any Austin H.S. pictures, but they would be welcome, too. (If the building's still standing.) Thanks for doing this work for our historical record. | ||
Raptor56 Member Username: Raptor56 Post Number: 20 Registered: 05-2007 |
My younger sister graduated from Regina 5 years ago. I remember going to pick her up from school occasionally and wondering how the school was surviving in an area that seemed to be in a town hill trend. In the years since then, I have heard of a number of instances where cars were being broken into while in the parking lot, cars were stolen, and they even had an issue with some looney tune who got into the school and started running around during school hours. Couple that with the closing of both Notre Dame and the Lutheran HS nextdoor, and it's no wonder Regina decided to move. Being about a mile away from De La Salle, it will be an easier commute for those parents who have kids in both schools. | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 152 Registered: 07-2006 |
I have heard a couple of different things about Austin. I have heard both that it was torn down completely and also that some of the building was used for the St. John Senior Center that now sits on the site: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=860622009&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=860622051&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=860622079&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=860621969&size=l I have also heard similar tales about Regina prior to their move this month. It is likely that those things did play into the move, but I think that the closure of Notre Dame was the primary reason. Regina this week dismantled their electronic message board from the front of the school. Still sad to see it move  | ||
Taj920 Member Username: Taj920 Post Number: 232 Registered: 01-2004 |
The only thing torn down at Austin was the Friary where the priests lived at the far end of the property; the rest of the facility was re-used and added on to. | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 153 Registered: 07-2006 |
Taj Do you happen to know where the main entrance to the school was located? | ||
Taj920 Member Username: Taj920 Post Number: 233 Registered: 01-2004 |
Maxcarey: It faced Warren on the east side of the complex, just to the right of where the chapel was (and still is, I think). But most people used the Canyon entrance off of the parking lot. | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 186 Registered: 07-2006 |
Thanks, Max and Taj, for the Austin update. I was expecting the typical "Collegiate Gothic" style school and not such a new building. Do you know when the school was established? I do historical research on the environment, etc and I can't tell you how important it is to record this type of information. Thanks for taking the time and gas to do it! | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 154 Registered: 07-2006 |
Swiburn What type of research? I live right near the old Austin and can snap some more pictures if you need them. Forgot about the Dominican HS pix. Here they are: School entrance: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=860610479&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878574700&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878574790&size=l Off of Whittier: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878574824&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878574966&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878574938&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878617934&size=l Back of the school: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878617854&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=860610597&size=l Convent: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878617810&size=l http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=878575214&size=l | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 187 Registered: 07-2006 |
I appreciate the photo links. I am a city commissioner in my town and it is really important to record what buildings look like, in case of demolition. Newspaper reporters, the Governor, writers, television- it's amazing how many people are interested in these types of pictures. | ||
Newport1128 Member Username: Newport1128 Post Number: 74 Registered: 05-2007 |
Maxcarey, thanks for all the great photos. I hope the current owners are able to keep up the appearance of Dominican. Looks like they are so far. | ||
Gibran Member Username: Gibran Post Number: 749 Registered: 02-2007 |
wow the photos look great...does anyone remember the out door carnivals that used to be held there...lots of fun, in the 70's... | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 188 Registered: 07-2006 |
Looking through some history books, I came upon a "Salesian High School" on Detroit's near east side. Does anybody know when this school closed? I believe it was a boy's high school. | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 158 Registered: 07-2006 |
The information that I have has Salesian closing in 1970. Was this school part of the St. Francis de Sales parish? I was unaware of this on the east side. | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 3403 Registered: 10-2003 |
It was barely eastside; Harper at Woodward. | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 189 Registered: 07-2006 |
Thanks for the information, max. It was at 60 Harper Ave. I thought it maybe moved to Warren, but I guess that was just De La Salle that did that. There was also a high school at the Cathedral, a boys school, I believe. | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 190 Registered: 07-2006 |
I just recalled that another reason for many Michigan Catholic school closings was due to the defeat of what was called "parochi-aid," a ballot proposal to fund Catholic schools from the state budget. I can't remember if then Gov. Milliken was for or against it. | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 159 Registered: 07-2006 |
For all that acknowledged the pictures, I am glad that you enjoy them - I hope to add more as best that I can. A few questions/answers 1. Taj - the chapel at Austin is still there and in use. I spoke to a former Austin student who was in there a few years ago and said that the hallways and stairwells are very similar what was left at the old Austin, as is the chapel. If I can (and not be a disruption) I will try to get in and take some pictures. 2. Ravine - Still trying to get the timing right to get to mass and be discreet about the crucifix. Still on my 'to do' list. 3. Swiburn - When you mentioned St. Augustine, were you referring to the one that is St. Augustine and St. Monica on Seminole north of Mack? I know that there was a St. Augustine that closed in 1989 and didn't know if that was the one you meant. I haven't forgotten about St. Ignatius either, when I drove by a few weeks ago, I received some unwelcome looks and I moved along. When the timing is right, I'll snap some pixs. 4. Salesian - In looking at Live Search, it does not appear that there is a building facing Harper, but there still is a church on the corner. I would assume that the school is likely gone. 5. Also gone is St. Edward's in Indian Village. Anybody know when this was torn down? 6. You're right about the defeat of parochi-aid. In November of 1970, Proposal C passed, which was a state constitutional amendment that eliminated all state aid. Bishop Thomas Gumbleton, Vicar of the Archdiocese at the time told WKNR that 105 schools had already budgeted with the state aid and that several schools would find themselves at risk. Indeed, in 1970 25 school (elementary & high) closed followed by a whopping 57 schools in 1971. | ||
Taj920 Member Username: Taj920 Post Number: 236 Registered: 01-2004 |
Maxcarey: St. Augustine was on Davison near Mound; It now appears to be a succesful Protestant church. It was only included in the 1989 closings when the Augustinian priests told the Archdiocese they no longer could assign priests there. As for Salesian, I think it was the same building that housed the original Catholic Central. A good site to track former Catholic high school closings is Michigan-football.com. It lists year-by-year football and basketball records for high schools going back to the 1950s. You can tell from the records when the schools closed. | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 191 Registered: 07-2006 |
To Max: I was thinking of the St. Augustine Church on Davison- not the former St. Catherine, which I guess is the present SS Augustine and Monica. And thanks for the info on Salesian; yes the original Catholic Central was there, before it moved out to W. Outer Drive. Girls Catholic Central was on Parsons, right off Woodward. I didn't know that St. Edwards' was torn down, either. "Catholic Churches in Detroit" doesn't mention anything on that. To Taj: Thanks for the tip at Michigan football. That's a clever way to check on school closings! I've looked through old Free Presses and read the stories on the long ago Catholic school football teams. | ||
Lmr Member Username: Lmr Post Number: 74 Registered: 03-2007 |
The defeat of Proposal C came at precisely the same time that the Catholic schools were making the switch from faculty made up mostly of nuns to faculty made up mostly of lay teachers. So there was a "double whammy" of losing state aid and greatly increased costs at the same time. Many schools just could not withstand all that at once. My elementary school lost easily half the number of nuns teaching there between 1967-1973. The departure of nuns was really a rush to the door once it began. | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 2393 Registered: 10-2003 |
The church on Woodward and Medbury (one block s. of Harper) is Our Lady of the Rosary. According to the Archdiocese, the parish was established in 1889. | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 192 Registered: 07-2006 |
Yes, Our Lady of the Rosary in l889 bought an Episcopal church that wasn't needed anymore, due to the building of St. Paul's Episcopal Cathedral down the street on Woodward. Our Lady of the Rosary schools closed in the l950s due to the freeway being built next door (I-94.) | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 161 Registered: 07-2006 |
Swiburn - Thanks for the clarification on St. Augustine. Taj - Thanks for posting that site. I had it many moons ago and lost track of it, I'm glad to have it back as I used it for just this purpose Kathleen - Did Our Lady of the Rosary parish also house Salesian? Or was Salesian gone by that time. I having difficulty understanding where Salesian was and the history of this site Lmr - Don't overlook Vatican II in the equation of the loss of nuns. That was another contributing factor to the loss of schools and nuns. Several parishes, St. Lucy's in St. Clair Shores for example built a school in the early to mid 1960s only to have them close in less than 10 years. Vatican II was a major player in that dynamic. Another one that fits that description is St. Sylvester in Warren. One eastside Catholic Church and school that we neglected to mentioned in St. Raymond just south of 8 mile and west of Schoenner. Sr. Raymond School opened in 1941 (at least the cornerstone says that) and it became Genesis Catholic in the mid 1990s. The records that I have show that it closed in 2002, but there is still activity there. Perhaps it is now a charter? Parish House: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=915713010&size=l School (Cornerstone in the left corner): http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=915712894&size=l http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=915712960&size=l Side of School: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=915712982&size=l Church: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=915712858&size=l http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=915712828&size=l | ||
Goblue Member Username: Goblue Post Number: 210 Registered: 03-2007 |
Does anyone know where St. Rose was located? I'm assuming that its long since closed. | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 2397 Registered: 10-2003 |
St. Rose of Lima Church was on Kercheval and Beniteau, on the northwest corner IIRC. The School and Social Hall are still standing there on the northeast and southeast corners respectively. | ||
Newport1128 Member Username: Newport1128 Post Number: 77 Registered: 05-2007 |
The cornerstone from St. Rose church has been preserved on the plaza next to St. Ambrose church in Grosse Pointe Park. It's mounted in a brick wall, along with the cornerstone from St. Ambrose High School and a statue of St. Ambrose that was on the front of the convent. The St. Rose cornerstone reads: "Ecclesiae Sanctae Rosae, A.D. MCMXXVII" (Church of St. Rose, A.D. 1927) | ||
Swiburn Member Username: Swiburn Post Number: 193 Registered: 07-2006 |
TO Max, Salesian was not located at Our Lady of Sorrows, which is at Woodward and Medbury.(that's what the cornerstone says, anyway.) Salesian took over the site of the Boys Catholic Central at Harper & Woodward, when Catholic Central moved to W. Outer Drive. Another blogger here points out that Salesian closed in l970. I don't believe it was connected to St. Francis de Sales Church. If Roman Godzak still worked at the Archdiocese, I'd try to clear this up, but he doesn't. | ||
Maxcarey Member Username: Maxcarey Post Number: 162 Registered: 07-2006 |
UPDATE: Drove by the following today and noticed: Bishop Gallagher High School has a sign in front promoting the arrival of the Colin Powell Academy for the coming school year. Is it safe to assume that they are leaving the Servite High School location? If so, what is to become of Servite? Guardian Angels Church on Kelly is now the New Greater Zion Hill Church. A banner covers the Guardian Angels name that was etched into the facade above the main entrance to the church. St. Brendan's Church is now the New Beginnings Cathedral. The St. Brendan's name that faces Morang is now covered with a banner. It also appears that the charter school that was in St. Brendan's School has moved. All indications of the previous school are gone and the old "St. Brendan's School" sign is now visible again. Pictures soon. Swiburn - Did Salesian begin when they took over the Catholic Central site or did they have another location? | ||
Lmr Member Username: Lmr Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2007 |
Max - yes I agree with you that Vatican II made it much easier for nuns to leave. You're completely correct about that. |
