  Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle Post Number: 144 Registered: 10-2006 |
Sweet gigantic street facing garage. Bleh! At least they'll probably put some dramatic architectural up lights on that thing. | ||
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986 Post Number: 376 Registered: 01-2004 |
That elevator shaft seems like it will block off all the street level retail that is “planned” in the parking garage. Is that still happening? I do think it would successful only on one accord and that is if the churches sell the property across the street to a developer who will build row houses or 3 flats. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 315 Registered: 11-2005 |
I think that a retail promenade will be built between the garage and monroe, much like the Opera House Garage was built. | ||
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986 Post Number: 377 Registered: 01-2004 |
I hope this retail promenade mirrors the rest of the storefronts on Monroe and adds a little variety. I think a standard built out section like the Opera House Garage where every storefront looks the same would be bland. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2314 Registered: 07-2004 |
Well, did they really have to tear into the St. Mary's school just for that moving walk-way? I thought the walk-way was going to go entirely through the school justifying its purpose. The way that they have set up the walk-way, it looks like they could have simply gone in front of the school to get to the next structure without having to have gutted the school at all. What an abomination. If they couldn't move the school, then they should have just tore down the school then do what they've done. When all of this Greektown Casino crap is over we're going to look back and say that this was the worst casino development out of the three permanent casinos. (Message edited by royce on July 21, 2007) | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5829 Registered: 10-2003 |
Talk about hyperbole. | ||
Mdoyle Member Username: Mdoyle Post Number: 146 Registered: 10-2006 |
Well with the changing from having a riverfront casino "strip" to having the temporary casinos developed into permanent hotel casinos I would say that from the onset the greektown casino did the most to become a part of the CBD. While they did push out tenants of trapers alley and possibly forever changed (scar?) the face of greektown they may be the only casino/hotel that contribtes anything to the city (CBD) other than tax revenue Without any sort of mass transit the people at motor city will stay there, MGM guests will stay there, both in their little cocoon cities with restaurants, shopping etc all while the (monstrosity?) that is greektown casino will feed into the city. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 4905 Registered: 08-2004 |
Royce, I agree about the ripping an entrance into the St. Mary's School... the worst part about it is that the entry is between 2 of St. Mary's floors, thus really making it look awful. Although I don't care for it, the good news is that at some point in the future, if the St. Mary's Building outlives the casino, at least the changes are not irreversible. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2316 Registered: 07-2004 |
Lmichigan, it's posts like that that give me reason to not take anything you say seriously. Such a wise-ass. Again, never offering a worthy rebuttal. Just trite comments. Instead of evolving into a more enlightened forumer, you're still stuck in a college freshman mentality. | ||
Cgunn Member Username: Cgunn Post Number: 63 Registered: 01-2004 |
http://downtownmotown.8k.com/D etroitDevelopment/2007_0720Det _Fridy07_20_070052.jpg Looks like it will be easier for you to choose which floor you want to park on instead of going up and down ramps of the entire parking structure. Hopefully they will have some kind of system that tells guest how many parking spaces are available on each floor. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 3324 Registered: 02-2005 |
I can only hope that this decreases the demand for various surface lots around east downtown and we can see such lots go up for sale. In the Free Press today a section on Detroit sports venues claimed that it was difficult to find parking for Tigers' games. Ha! And that will really be laughable after this thing is done. | ||
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj Post Number: 211 Registered: 05-2005 |
Trades play their hand in Greektown By Marty Mulcahy Managing Editor DETROIT - All the action was outside the Greektown Casino last week, as the building trades and the joint venture of Jenkins/Skanska started the process of expanding the existing structure of the gaming hall. The project has moved into the next major phase, expanding the casino about 70 feet south into what is the median of Lafayette Street. Also ongoing at the site is the construction of the massive parking deck, a hotel, and the renovation of the old St. Mary's school house into casino offices. Last week Hardhats were drilling caissons to support the new casino space, as well as pouring footings to support a retail area. Project Supt. Larry Zielinski said about 300 construction workers would toil on the job at peak employment. "We haven't found much during the caisson drilling, only a lot of buried common brick from the 1800s," Zielinski said. "So far, nothing out of the ordinary." The $475 million project includes a 25,000-square-foot expansion of the gaming hall (increasing the size to 100,000 square-feet), a 1,500-seat entertainment theater, meeting and convention room space, a spa and additional restaurants. The 400-room hotel and garage will connect to the casino via moving and elevated walkways. A July 12 ceremony marked the start of construction on the expanded casino. "With this groundbreaking, we celebrate more jobs and revenues for Detroit and our state, the start of a magnificent new resort destination in the heart of Detroit, and additional resources to support programs and services for members of the Sault Tribe," said Aaron Payment, chairperson of the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians, owners of Greektown Casino. Greektown Casino opened on Nov. 10, 2000. It has nearly 2,400 slot machines and 92 table games in 75,000 square feet of gaming space. RODBUSTERS SINK re-rod cages for caissons that will support the expansion of the Greektown Casino in Detroit. The casino will be expanded about 70 feet into Lafayette Street, which is about where the the re-rod cages are in the foreground. NEW FOOTINGS ARE installed behind the Greektown Casino, in an area fronted by Monroe Street, where retail shops will be located. | ||
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj Post Number: 212 Registered: 05-2005 |
Is the expanded Casino on Lafayette going to built over the street (so you'd be driving underneath it when its finished? | ||
Ericsprague Member Username: Ericsprague Post Number: 19 Registered: 02-2006 |
Link for above article, with pictures: http://www.detroitbuildingtrad es.org/paper.html#early | ||
Motorcitydave Member Username: Motorcitydave Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2004 |
Who ever has trouble finding parking to ANY event downtown, just isn't looking all that hard!!! | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 436 Registered: 02-2006 |
I forgot where I read this, but at the time Detroit had 65,000 parking spaces in Downtown alone. That was more than Manhattan below 86th street! And that was back in 2001. Wonder how much it is now, or after the casinos build their city-block-sized garages. <313> | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1775 Registered: 06-2006 |
"Who ever has trouble finding parking to ANY event downtown, just isn't looking all that hard!!!" Actually we tried going to Greektown casino on a Friday night last summer...there was a Tigers game that evening and we drove around for 1/2 hour looking for ANYWHERE to park but couldn't find anything, so we ended up going to Royal Oak that night instead...it was unfortunate because here we are, trying to support Detroit by spending a friday night downtown and spending some of our entertainment dollars in the city and we couldn't even park! (Message edited by thejesus on August 06, 2007) | ||
Wilus1mj Member Username: Wilus1mj Post Number: 213 Registered: 05-2005 |
I guarantee the Compuware HQ garage had spaces on a Friday night and its only $5 or free with validation. It's connected to the Peoplemover or a short walk to Greektown or the stadiums. | ||
Cgunn Member Username: Cgunn Post Number: 74 Registered: 01-2004 |
^^Serious ANYWHERE? I doubt it. So you couldn't park at Compuware, Woodward Block (Underground Parking), AtWater Parking Structure, etc. They were all full? | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1198 Registered: 10-2003 |
so sad that you couldn't find parking in the most popular district on a friday night. you might've had to actually look elsewhere in downtown and walked. | ||
Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 4569 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sounds like fear of the locals (or outright laziness to walk) to me... | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1778 Registered: 06-2006 |
people who don't live downtown don't know which garages that are several blocks away might have space at any given time... If Detroit wants to compete for suburban dollars, it needs more parking near it's main entertainment districts...you guys can fling insults at suburbanites for not being more familiar with Detroit if you want to, but that's not going to result in more money being spent down there, whether you like it or not...adding more parking, however, will...luckily for you, the people who matter understand this... (Message edited by thejesus on August 06, 2007) | ||
Billk Member Username: Billk Post Number: 74 Registered: 09-2005 |
Wilus1mj, Yes, the casino is being built out to the median of Lafayette. If you're going west, you'll drive under it. | ||
Cgunn Member Username: Cgunn Post Number: 75 Registered: 01-2004 |
Downtown isn't that big. We have a people mover.....use it. And when you get on the people mover that have all kinds of maps that show you locations where to park and ride. As Detroit_stylin put it.....LAZINESS. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 1780 Registered: 06-2006 |
"As Detroit_stylin put it.....LAZINESS." as I said, you're lucky this isn't that attitude of the people who make the decisions to build the necessary parking...you should be thankful they get it, even if you don't | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 1541 Registered: 10-2003 |
I have never had any problem finding a place to park downtown. Thats my $0.02. Maybe I am a savvy parker. I do know where to look. Like George Castanza. Only better. | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1199 Registered: 10-2003 |
absolute laziness. there was parking a plenty between the major entertainment areaS. the compuware garage is across the street from greektown. the appeal of a city is exactly that: a city. don't expect it to be a suburb where you can expect to always park outside of the front door of any place. [btw. i don't think you can claim ignorance on downtown if you participate in this forum.] | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 9729 Registered: 10-2003 |
thejesus - It might not be laziness but it might be a matter of not knowing where the parking is. There is not a shortage of parking downtown. Not being a prick with this question but how far were you and your friends willing to walk from your parking? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 3492 Registered: 02-2005 |
Well, maybe you should do some research before heading downtown. You can't expect to just roll down there on a busy night, claiming to not know the landscape very well like you do, and just have parking spots jumping out at you. I've found that for Tigers games (since they've been winning), just about all street spots in the CBD and up into Brush Park are taken, because the games after after 6pm or on a Sunday afternoon. I prefer street parking when I'm downtown, so that's a bummer. But I have never not been able to find a parking garage or surface lot with spaces. Please don't tell me that the garages and lots west of Woodward were full, TJ. More likely, I expect to hear you admit that you didn't even look over that way. There is no way that some of those lots along Fort or Lafayette filled up, and I'm sure many of the garages even on the eastern side of downtown still had spaces. While were on the topic of parking: if anyone ever uses the very nice 1001 Woodward Garage for "event parking" and the event is an evening ballgame, you need to get back to the garage as soon as the game ends. They mean it when they say event only. One time we went out afterwards, spent about 2 hours, and the place was completely locked. We had to wait an hour for a resident or a resident's visitor to come down, thus opening the door. All in all, TJ, perhaps Detroit does need more parking for times when downtown is at peak capacity with games and festivals and shows. But what about the other 95% of the time when those spots are just wasted space? I'm okay with more parking if garages get built on currently vacant lots, or if the parking is underground. Surface lots are as inefficient as you can get. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 1363 Registered: 10-2006 |
Bet if you couldn't find a spot closer, there were prob. some at Joe Louis or the COBO roof... |
