  Detroit_stylin Member Username: Detroit_stylin Post Number: 5330 Registered: 10-2003 |
Would that building or one that size actually fit on that block? | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 1502 Registered: 12-2006 |
I think it is time to bring Jar Jar back...  | ||
Gthomas Member Username: Gthomas Post Number: 86 Registered: 09-2004 |
yeah thats what im talkin about Gistok...something u can see headed to detroit going north from I-75. I believe he will build at least 30-50 story skyscraper with modern amenities dur to the need of young urban professiinal workin in this state of the art skyscraper. IT HAS TO BE GRAND!••• | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2003 |
"The 5 story building looks so small and lonely as the sole building standing on the Statler block." Yeah, it also looks burned out and abandoned. I'm sure that slumlord will be making out like a bandit now. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 639 Registered: 09-2007 |
"Have there been any clues about which other "technology" companies might open new offices downtown?" wouldn't that be redundant when you factor in Techtown? | ||
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city Post Number: 470 Registered: 04-2006 |
All you architeckies need to email your drawings to Dan to let him visualize what us daydreamers dream about! ;) | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 709 Registered: 11-2006 |
thats one of the most foolish things I have ever heard Detroitrise. However, nothing you ramble about should surprise me by now | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 674 Registered: 07-2007 |
i worked in a 45 story building in LA designed by yamaguchi (southfield arch.), same design as the wtc, it had about 4800 people inside, size about 1.2 mill sf. nbc called to see if we had any terror threats after 911. | ||
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city Post Number: 471 Registered: 04-2006 |
You mean Yamasaki? I mean, you mean Yamasaki. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 1370 Registered: 01-2004 |
Not sure if this article about ePrize was mentioned before. To sum it up, it says this company is considering relocating about 300 employees as well. Not really new news, but here it is anyway. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20071113/BUS INESS/71113037 | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 678 Registered: 07-2007 |
i stand corrected | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 5738 Registered: 08-2004 |
Shark... that "slumlord" you are referring to, has been the only building owner with paying tenants on the downtown stretch of Bagley Ave. for decades. He didn't burn the leased AAA Building... the team hired by the city to raze the Statler did. If you ever happen to get into his other building across the street from the AAA Building, you will notice that ALL the elevators are fully functional (with all the brass fixtures nicely polished), the lobby has been fully restored, and the building is fully leased. Hardly sounds like the modus operandi of a slumlord... | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 298 Registered: 12-2003 |
I know his background. Given the condition of the AAA building and the lack of anything being done with it, I consider him a slumlord. In thread about Ilitch and his charity donations, you called Mike Ilitch "the city's worst slumlord". Well, if you ever happen to get in the FOX Theater, you will notice that ALL the elevators are fully functional and it is fully restored... | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 711 Registered: 11-2006 |
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Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 5740 Registered: 08-2004 |
Funny how things get taken out of context... what I said was... "The sad thing on this debate is that nearly everyone is right... the Ilitch have had their snouts in the public trough, and yet they have spent more of their own money on the city than any other family. They have been the city's worst slumlord, demo'ed some of their buildings, and yet they are now fixing up their remaining inventory of buildings." And, as far as the AAA Building... even if it did get fixed up, some would then accuse the owner of trying to maximize his profit... Damned if you do... damned if you don't...  (Message edited by Gistok on November 14, 2007) | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 821 Registered: 07-2006 |
more good news: "Quicken also gets a one-year option to develop office and retail space on two other city-owned sites: the former Lafayette Building at Michigan Avenue and Lafayette Boulevard, and two parking lots on Broadway and Library streets, according to the development agreement." http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20071114/BIZ/7 11140386 | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 5741 Registered: 08-2004 |
Wow... for only $1 per parcel... not bad. I wonder if the entire Ilitch owned UA/Tuller block is included in the Statler $1 parcel? | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 262 Registered: 03-2006 |
I realize that its an option for the two parcels, and while he may plan on developing which ever site he doesn't choose for his HQ, the only thing he is contractually obligated to build is his headquarters. That said, being completely optimistic and assuming he builds on all 4 sites, it seems to me that the Hudson's site would make the most sense for him, if only for its central location to all the parcels in question, and its proximity to the Library st parking lots. | ||
Dan Member Username: Dan Post Number: 1456 Registered: 10-2003 |
Outstanding! Now I hope they don't just sit on all 4 for a year, than scale back their plan. They now control 3 key parcels; Hudsons, Staler, and Lafayette. That is allot in one groups hands, I hope they pull it off. | ||
Southen Member Username: Southen Post Number: 343 Registered: 08-2006 |
Wow im trying to figure out which additional parcel Dan would want to develope most and im having a hard time choosing. Lafayette is now in a great location for offices/residential now that the Book Cadillac and Griswold projects are underway. The open lots on Broadway though are a huge opportunity to build new and are within walking distance from his potential HQ or mixed use building. The initial announcement that he wanted to develope both sites exceeded my expectations, if they pull this off it will be amazing. This is huge. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 3993 Registered: 02-2005 |
I would love to see infill on Broadway. That said, a rehabbed Lafayette Building would also be awesome. This is kind of a new twist, but I think the city is making a good choice by at least throwing those two options out there. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 6798 Registered: 02-2004 |
I would like to see Quicken Loan Co. to build a 150 story skyscraper at the old Hudson site. This would be the start of Detroit's true rennaisance | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 1535 Registered: 01-2005 |
 An un-blurred version for you. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 2182 Registered: 04-2006 |
I must admit that I was amused by Livonia officials crying foul over Quicken moving to Detroit. They claimed the state was removing jobs... Would they have rather those jobs gone down the street or to another state? I hope the News was just selectively quoting Livonia officials. At least this quote was a bit more reasonable: quote: http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20071114/METRO 01/711140406 | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 2734 Registered: 06-2006 |
Obviously, Livonia tried to keep Quicken from leaving, but I think the mayor has been very cordial in his comments... "It's a disappointment, to say the least," Engebretson said. "We don't have the money that Detroit has and the strong support of the governor's office. We gave it our best shot." "Engebretson said Livonia has done all it could to convince Quicken to stay, but cannot compete with the star power Detroit has brought to bear with businessmen Mike Ilitch and Peter Karmanos -- who also own major professional sports teams -- recruiting Gilbert." It sounds to me that some people are disappointed that Livonia isn't making a bigger stink over this. The truth is that many of us in Livonia were rooting for Quicken to move downtown as well. (Message edited by thejesus on November 14, 2007) | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 2183 Registered: 04-2006 |
^He's been a little more cordial than some of his counterparts. quote: quote: quote: But then Daniel Howes piece this morning really sums up my feelings on it all. Check it out in the link below: http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20071114/OPINI ON03/711140380 | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10772 Registered: 10-2003 |
Your'e both right. Some people are making pissy comments as I heart illustrated but Engebretson (who did not or could not run in the most recent mayoral election) was very gracious with his comments. (Message edited by jt1 on November 14, 2007) | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 2735 Registered: 06-2006 |
You have to understand that Livonia's government is sad to lose the tax revenue, so it's to be expected for them to sound a bit competitive but I still think they have handled the loss very well. Again, many of us understand that Quicken will have a more positive impact in Detroit than it ever could have in Livonia. For the sake of Detroit's image, I really hope this doesn't turn into: Livonia: "Well, we gave it our best shot, but our loss is Detroit's gain. Good luck Quicken, good luck Detroit." Detroit: "Ha ha, Livonia. We took your #1 company, na na na na na na!" That would be disappointing. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 10773 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: I would be disappointed to hear that as well but it has been going on in the opposite direction for decades and nobody was crying for Detroit. I like the idea of looking at this in a regional focus but I certainly don't want to hear any crying from elsewhere because there certainly have been no crying as communities and counties outside of Detroit have wooed Detroit businesses to relocate for decades. Hopefully, the city and leadership will take the high road but if they acted like past precedents then they can't be faulted for a little 'na na na' | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 2737 Registered: 06-2006 |
^we'll, the idea of the state favoring Detroit over the suburbs for big businesses is a new idea in Michigan and will take some getting used to...you just have to expect that... But I really think my generation views the change in the winds MUCH more favorably than my parents' generation did/does |
