  Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1368 Registered: 06-2005 |
Sometimes I wonder If people just wake up and can't wait to start their negativity towards anything good that happens in this city. Sheeeeeesh (Message edited by broken_main on January 06, 2008) | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6068 Registered: 08-2004 |
Gotcha, thankg Greatlakes. That view is from the perspective of the Water Board Building. Just out of view on the right would be the back of the National Theatre (not the Capitol, as someone incorrectly mentioned on this thread). So this building is taking up the entire pentagonal shaped block, minus the corner where the Cadillac Tower is located. Wow, it will fill the frontage on Cadillac Square, Bates, Library, Monroe, and Woodward/Campus Martius. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6069 Registered: 08-2004 |
Greatlakes, it almost looks like the 2 sides of the Cadillac Tower facing the rest of the development may get recladding, to tie the 2 completely different architectural styles together. One of those sides (facing Campus Martius) has few windows on that side anyway. And perhaps the 2 sides facing away from the development (Bates and Cadillac Square) may remain unchanged. Since owners of the Cadillac Tower are doing this development, I'm sure that the tower will be integrated (on the first or more floors) with the rest of the block. So the Cadillac Tower's 40 stories of office space will likely be integrated into a shopping arcade, entertainment destination and residential towers. And the best part is this will all be accomplished without the need for a superblock!  (Message edited by Gistok on January 06, 2008) | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 113 Registered: 07-2007 |
Yeah, at least the Campus Martius side (which seemed strange even when there were other buildings on the Monroe Block) will finally not look so awkward. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6070 Registered: 08-2004 |
Although I'm not a big fan of modern architecture, and it is premature to speculate... but I could see this completed design winning some awards for blending modern and early 20th century totally unrelated architecture together in a new way... | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 114 Registered: 07-2007 |
Here's the official press release: http://www.reuters.com/article /pressRelease/idUS44425+06-Jan -2008+PRN20080106 New tidbit: "A local Detroit architectural firm will also be used for project work." And an extended drawing: http://prn.newscom.com/cgi-bin /pub/s?f=PRN/prnpub&p1=2008010 6/CLSU001&xtag=PRN-prnphotos-6 8039&redir=preview&tr=1&row=1 (Message edited by GreatLakes on January 06, 2008) | ||
Detmi7mile Member Username: Detmi7mile Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2007 |
The building doesnt do that much for me visually but it's good news for the city. Sorry it's not 1920 anymore, so you won't see anymore of the beautiful art deco skyscrapers you've come to love in the city. It is 2007, therefore I would think buildings built during this time would reflect that, just as other time periods have done. Just accept the good news and chill. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 6072 Registered: 08-2004 |
Detmi7mile... er... um... did you buy a new calendar yet? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 4293 Registered: 02-2005 |
Thanks for the link Elwoodp. I really like this guy. | ||
Buzzman0077 Member Username: Buzzman0077 Post Number: 155 Registered: 11-2006 |
This announcement will be the best Birthday gift I could receive! I think the project is great and having the space filled will give CM a complete, modern 24hr city feel. I am not sure about the renderings, I think I like them. I'll hold final judgement until something is finalized | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1508 Registered: 12-2004 |
Thumbs down on the design. I like classical urban architecture, though I'm willing to accept a modernist infusion for the sake of urban building diversity. This example, however, is tacky. I seriously doubt its final appearance will resemble the picture presented today. | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 590 Registered: 02-2006 |
Sorry I missed this and added another thread! <313> | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1371 Registered: 06-2005 |
Classic!! | ||
Kslice Member Username: Kslice Post Number: 254 Registered: 04-2007 |
Remember the original renderings for the Freedom tower in NY? The building looked like nothing else. As time passed the renderings got more and more normal. The CGI pictures they have now are probably not what the finished product will look like (hopefully). If they really wanna make a mark on Detroit make it have am attached 50 story tower. Something to add to the skyline. | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1374 Registered: 06-2005 |
Sounds good Kslice, but who will they find to occupy the building? | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1322 Registered: 09-2007 |
Quicken | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1375 Registered: 06-2005 |
I am sure this development will help decide where to put his building much quicker now. | ||
Mccarch Member Username: Mccarch Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2003 |
I can't understand this building - what sense does it make? A few days after the news that the Griswold project has fizzled because the expensive condominiums weren't selling, there's an announcement of a LARGER condo building with even MORE EXPENSIVE condos? The renderings look half-baked (despite whatever one might think of the design), the developer is unable to spell "Center", and John Gallagher falls over himself typing out sorority-girl squeals: "...a project aimed at pumping up downtown's 24-hour buzz and international interest in the city." I feel like we're in an episode of Absolutely Fabulous - and not one of the more chuckle-worthy episodes. | ||
Wordonthestreet Member Username: Wordonthestreet Post Number: 156 Registered: 11-2003 |
Broken_main, This building will have apartments, not condominiums. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1323 Registered: 09-2007 |
"the developer is unable to spell 'Center'," So, the developer of Bel-Air Centre didn't know how to spell "Center" either. He still managed to build one of Detroit's last successful retail centers (of the 90s). You do have a point about the Griswold though. Downtown Detroit is like a dart board. Everyone will take a go for the bullseye, but only one player will hit the sweet spot. | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 310 Registered: 12-2003 |
Cadillac = French. Centre = French. Therefore the "Cadillac Centre" is perfectly acceptable for Detroit. After all, this is an "international metropolis". | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 4748 Registered: 10-2004 |
An apartment usually means a rental unit, and condos imply owner-occupied structures. However, that's not always the case. AFAIK, my quick read simply mentioned apartments--which could mean rentals or otherwise. And a mix of rentals and OO units are also possible. The article was short on specifics. | ||
Greatlakes Member Username: Greatlakes Post Number: 115 Registered: 07-2007 |
Well, they do have to leave some things under wraps until Wednesday. | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 1377 Registered: 06-2005 |
Word, Wouldn't you think more apartments would encourage Gilbert to put his building on the Hudson's site. This would definitely encourage his young workers to move in the city | ||
Mccarch Member Username: Mccarch Post Number: 149 Registered: 12-2003 |
If the "Centre" contains apartments, perhaps many of Mr. Gilbert's young workers could rent there. I'm sure the rents would be reasonable, and the young workers could chat with each other in perfectly accented French; after all, this is an international metropolis. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 4749 Registered: 10-2004 |
quote:This was sarcasm, right? New construction usually comes with a much higher price tag. And some apartments even resort to auctions, where the potential renters actually bid on the prices for the rentals. That approach would be interesting if it even happened here. After all, there are only seven dozen units. | ||
Wordonthestreet Member Username: Wordonthestreet Post Number: 157 Registered: 11-2003 |
Given the current state of the housing market, we need more apartments added to downtown and midtown to continue increasing the residential base. The Griswold for example, would have been more successful if it had been a rental development. | ||
Detroitrise Member Username: Detroitrise Post Number: 1325 Registered: 09-2007 |
LY, I still believe Detroit is an international metropolis | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 70 Registered: 12-2007 |
I finally figured out what the building reminds me of  | ||
Kslice Member Username: Kslice Post Number: 255 Registered: 04-2007 |
I love those old Marble Warbels. |
