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Spidergirl
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Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My best friend and I take an annual thumb road trip/fall color drive, making lots of stops along the way. It's always great.

Not sure how great it would be this time of year though...
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Where is that pie place? Achatz Pie Store in Armada. It's kind of on the way up to the thumb. Great pies!

http://www.achatzpies.com/abou t_us.php
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Anyone been to the Bayport Fish Sandwich Festival? My brother goes every year. He sent me a t-shirt. Traded for a Lind (Wa.) Combine Demolition Derby one.....
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Pinnebog Michigan is where its at! Caseville is a cool town but probably not much going on now. Sleeper State Park is easily one of my favorite places on Earth I have had many good times there! The small towns are great and so is the endless farm and rural scenery. Try M19 from beautiful Chesterfield Twp all the way to Bad Axe. You will go through more small towns than you can count. M19 is interesting as from where it starts to Bad Axe and up to the northern tip is all rural land and very similar scenery and towns. It is interesting that you can go from the tip of the thumb to Chesterfield and still not really run into the developed area of Metro Detroit...though I guess you could argue that it is now showing up in New Haven.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lexington Beach is very fun, good perch fishing off downtown...and caseville/ sleeper state park..very nice old family beach...inland had nice little towns...great Sunday drive..
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Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Where is that pie place? Achatz Pie Store in Armada. It's kind of on the way up to the thumb. Great pies!"

The pies are no longer baked at the Armada location. They recently moved the baking operations to a larger facility. It is still open for retail sales. NOTE: They are not open on Saturday (strict Seventh Day Adventist)
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Schulzte1 - maybe you can help me out here since you're from the thumb area. Years ago, I seem to remember stopping at a Lumberjack memorial somewhere up that way. We were on our way home from Rose City and wanted to go through Caseville. And this lumberjack place was before we got to Caseville. There were statues and exhibits and historical markers. I've got pictures of it but they're packed away someplace. Anyway, do you know what town that is near? That would be a neat place to visit - but maybe in warmer weather!
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Eriedearie: I think it is further north.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L umberman%27s_Monument
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If you are a history buff, drive past the Nichols farm where Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh hung out in the months preceding Oklahoma City in Decker, Sanilac County.
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Fareastsider-I love Pinnebog!

i used to pass through several times a year via Pinnebog Road, taking the shortcut from M-53 to Oak Beach, where my family had a cottage.
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Zimm
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and for anyone who wants a glimpse of what life in the northern Thumb used to be like 75-100 years ago, explore Sand Road between Caseville and Port Austin, near sleeper State Park and Rush Lake. just make sure you drive a 4WD or very capable 2WD.
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I remember reading in the Guiness Book of World Records many years ago that the highest address in the world is (or was) near Yale MI, a town in the thumb. Although I don't remember the number, it was in the 5 digit "8x,xxx" range.
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No one has mentioned Pt. Aux Barques, the very "tip of the thumb." The shoreline is private but there is a way to get there if you seek it out. Surprisingly enough, there are cliffs and amazing rock formations. A little bit of the Upper Peninsula transported to thumb. One truly amazing formation is called Turnip Rock.

http://www.depnerfarms.com/turniprock.html


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One of my favorite spots in Michigan. I remember going all the way out to the tip of that overhang on the far left as a young kid on a windy day, scaring my parents like crazy. People have etched their names into the top of the overhang. I call it the "thumbnail".

(Message edited by gsgeorge on March 06, 2008)
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Slider
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Looks like I have quite a busy day Saturday (if we don't get wailed with yet another snow storm). Thanks for the great suggestions everyone. Everyone's contributions are good mix of natural lake beauty, small town stops, and scenic rural drives - exactly what I was looking for!
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My wife is from Port Sanilac and in the summer it is great. The winter time, the activities are a bit slower. But if you take M-29 up as previously mentioned there are some great sceneries. I would take I-94 get off at 26 Mile Road and take it to the water. You will go through Marine City, St. Clair, and Marysville. You then can stop in Port Huron for a bit, and freighter watch while having very light lunch. Walking in downtown PH is nice too. Sad but most shops have closed, but there is some good history and architecture there. Then continue north through Lexington which has a very cute downtown, then on to Port Sanilac where they have a nice marina and a small, very small downtown.

Just continue on M-29 and you will run into many very small and quaint towns. There is lots to see and that route is very scenic. As people have mentioned the Port Hope Hotel, Caseville, Port Austin. This will be very nice drive for you.
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Gazhekwe
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I just heard we have a winter storm watch for Friday night to Sunday! Is this your fault, Slider? Making plans for a fun drive on the weekend, hmmmmm?

Well, if you can't do it this weekend, next weekend will be nicer (I hope, hope, hope!).

This all sounds so wonderful, I think we will plan a nice drive in the near future and take the moms along.
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Slider
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Gazhekwe, there is no way I'm taking the fall for bring on this bad weather. Eh, nevermind. My luck it is probably my fault. : )
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Rjk
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Has anyone been up to Port Austin recently?
Some years back there was a big fire that damaged some businesses on the west side of the street. They had to be torn down and I'm wondering if they did anything with that empty section.
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Eriedearie
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Exactly Wash_man! That is the place I'm talkin' about. I didn't realize it was that much farther north. It has been awhile since we were up that way.

Thanks for the link - the pictures are of what we saw...get it? saw - lumber! hee hee!

Enjoy your drive Slider! :-)
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Fareastsider
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"I remember reading in the Guiness Book of World Records many years ago that the highest address in the world is (or was) near Yale MI, a town in the thumb. Although I don't remember the number, it was in the 5 digit "8x,xxx" range."

That would be Memphis MI. in the Macomb part as Macomb adopted Detroits address system. It could not be in Saint Clair Co. as they have a different address system.
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MOORES! Thats it!

We used to camp at Sleeper State Park ALL the time in the summer. Stop at Moores on the Way there AND the way back. I love swimming in Lake Huron...easily my favorite lake to swim in.
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You can check out historic Huron City, although it it pretty quiet this time of year. You could still walk around and look at the buildings.

8 miles north of Port Hope and 8 miles south of Port Austin.
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Fave city in the lower thumb is Lexington, not far north of Port Huron. Stop at Wimpy's for a cheap lunch and rude service; at this time of year they won't be busy (summers, you have to wait outside if you want to eat there). Lex also has lots of nice shops, many of which are open year-round.

Marine City (not quite the thumb) is good for antiquing and convenient ferry service to Canada (six bucks but rarely ever any delays), and there is a very nice tea room in Sombra, Ontario, walking distance from the ferry landing. It's only two dollars round-trip if you cross on foot.

Have a great trip! Lots of nice things to see in the thumb area; I've spent quite a bit of time there myself.

Prof. Scott
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No love for Croswell and the Swingin' Bridge ?



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I posted about that first thing, Be Good To Your Mother-In-Law Bridge. Nice picture, I wish it was that time of year already.
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Pinnebog is Hecks bars still there?
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Me & my girlfriend drove around part of the thumb area a little after Xmas. It was real cold and foggy the day we drove around it, also it gave it a very creepy appeal to it. It reminded me of the movies The Fog And the new steven king movie. Overall it was fun to drive around and see some of the other towns in the area.
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Yes, Heck's is still there. About 40 of us go booze croozin' down the "Mighty Pinnebog" every year in late July. We make it a staple to stop there friday night to have a few on the trip down Pinnebog road to Oak Beach road. This will be our 6th year in July!
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I love Sleeper State Park, but I'm creeped out going there since my (former) friend got attacked by some crazy dude--we'll call her FF. We decided to go camping totally randomly after a night of drinking (surprise), and left for Caseville around 1 AM. It was either close to the tail end of camping season, or right after. The first night was great, the DNR came in the morning and told us we were the only people in the park but it was fine for us to stay. We went to find a store, and when we came back there was a guy (around our age) sitting on a picnic table a little way from our site. At first I didn't think anything of it, maybe he was a groundskeeper or something, because he didn't seem to pay us any mind. We went to the beach, then to look for firewood. Fire started, we hear crunching through the woods coming toward us, and the guy we'd seen earlier appears out of the woods with some sticks. He tells us 'I saw you looking for wood earlier, here you go.' Nice gesture, but I was creeped! FF, already drinking and crazy as it is, decides to befriend mystery man (who I admit looked pretty harmless) and invite him for a beer. Begin my discomfort...the night goes on, sitting around having beers, and they decide to get more wood. The only thing I wanted to do less than hang out ALONE in the middle of the night at some pitch-black campground was to go off with some guy I didn't know or trust, so I stayed back. After what seemed like forever, maybe a half hour, I hear a commotion coming from the direction they went, the guy yelling and carrying on. FF comes back without him, says they were talking about family stuff and he got upset, but everything was fine...and that she's going back to him to see if he's OK. I told her she was CRAZY and that I wanted to leave that minute, but she left again, so I gathered my things, grabbed a hammer, and hid in the tent. Ten minutes later, more ranting coming from the bathroom area, then FF screaming, then the sound of glass breaking, and finally running toward the tent. Hammer in hand, I look out to find FF running toward the tent all bloody and freaking out, screaming "Go, find the keys, GO! I didn't know how to drive a stick at the time, so I had to get her together enough to drive us the hell out of the park to a phone to call the police. (Neither of us used a cell in 1997) She told me he followed her into the bathroom and began to choke her against the windows when his hands broke through the glass. She kicked him in the balls, and ran back to me. The police met us at the payphone and escorted us back to the park to get our things. They didn't find him, but did see the blood from when his hands went through the window, as well as blood on our tent. Way too freaked to drive, and since we'd both had a few, we slept in the car on the side of the road until we could get it together. Needless to say, the friendship of me and FF was coming to a quick end after that.

All that horror aside, the park itself is beautiful and I LOVE the beach across the street! It wasn't the park's fault, or the area, it was all the stupidity of FF, and I'm lucky it wasn't a whole lot worse
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Wow alley, that is quite an experience!
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quote:

"I remember reading in the Guiness Book of World Records many years ago that the highest address in the world is (or was) near Yale MI, a town in the thumb. Although I don't remember the number, it was in the 5 digit "8x,xxx" range."

That would be Memphis MI. in the Macomb part as Macomb adopted Detroits address system. It could not be in Saint Clair Co. as they have a different address system.

I don't know why but I happen to have a screenshot of that address from Google Earth:


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I think this topic came up on another thread not too long ago.
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Lowell
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Good thread, lot's of fabulous [rural] ruins in the Thumb.

My favorite from Kilmanagh.

Kilmanagh Michigan Thumb


Kilmanagh Michigan Thumb

The Octagon Barn [being restored]

Octagon Barn Michigan Thumb

A Ghost town, I forgot where..

Ghost Town Michigan Thumb
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That last one of course would be the great city or CDP of Pinnebog Michigan. It isnt a ghost town....yet.
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Zimm
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there is a gem of an old store in Grindstone City, just past the general store. it's made of massive stones, in the 1800's style of storefront. it's still occupied as a residence, but god, would i love to have it it in another location-it's just far too massive to move any great distance...
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Lefty's Drive-in on 25 north & west of Pigeon is a slice of life place... in season.

Want a very cool drive? Hit gravel roads all of the way north to the Lake. Water is for the tourists.
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Picked up my Siberian Husky in the thumb.
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That restaurant in Port Austin in the historic building is really good. I think its called The Bank.

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Actually, it's called The Bank 1884!
Also, try The Garfield Inn, an old house where former President James Garfield used to vacation, now a fine restaurant

In the summer, there is a cool bed and breakfast across the street called Lake Street Manor, well worth spending a night at.
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can i mention the wunnerful town of harbor beach? family lived there since mid-1800s...nice people, good fishing...great perch dinners at williams inn south of town...

sleeper state park is a fun place...dad & i would enjoy a road trip on summer sundays...swimming, clamming, also greppd for junk from the old sand works (maybe near oak beach?)...is that gone now?

my wunnerful, crazy dad...we got stuck in the sand (he thought his 67 toronado was a 4wd)...two hours passed...a tourist with a real 4wd pulled us out..."don't tell yer mom", he said...

thank you for this thread...sweet memories.
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Let us know how your excursion goes!
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Anybody have any memories of the Dunes, between Caseville and Port Austin, 1969-70-71 ?
It was like a mini Woodstock without the bands!
I still have good memories of barn band parties, camping at Sleeper and of course the Dunes, during that time frame.
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Bigb23, The "Dunes" today are part of the day use area for Port Crescent State Park. The State Park was once the lumber town of Port Crescent at the mouth of the Pinnebog River. Some of the old buildings were removed as the town declined and relocated to Kinde via horse drawn skids over the snow during the winter months. Some of the old foundations can still be found in the park. The dunes were once mined by Ford Motor Co. for use in their glass operations.

Yes, I remember when thousands of hippies from all over Michigan converged and threw down in the dunes. When the unwanted throng had reached it's peak, the State Police closed off M-25 to prevent the population from increasing. It was even rumored that the Michigan National Guard was going to hit the beach in landing craft to evict the hipsters, though that never came to pass. However, those unfortunate to get arrested were given complimentary buzz cuts courtesy of Huron County's finest.
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"It was even rumored that the Michigan National Guard was going to hit the beach in landing craft to evict the hipsters..."

Ha ha ^ that's a hilarious vision. If that was the same ragtag overweight keystone cop National Guards that came to Detroit in the 1967 riot that would have been a real comedy.
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We spent Christmas at my sister's lake house, about halfway between Port Hope and the light house. Great view of the light house from her place! I'm a Detroit native (and my wife's from Tokyo), and after living in NYC for nearly 13 yrs, the flat, wide-open spaces of the thumb put a zap on us for a day or 2 after we got there. But once we had a chance to drink-in the atmosphere, we were sold. Beautiful area!

However, one thing I found troubling was how far the water-line has receded in that area. The house we stayed at is right on Lake Huron, and the second house north of us has a boat dock, which is a good 100 yards from the current shore. Apparently, the dock was built some 20 years ago, when the water came right up to the houses. While it was all snow when we were there, my sister told me that during the warm-weather months, they have to rent a large mower to cut down the large field of weeds that grows between the front of their house and the water line. It's a bizarre "no-man's land" that used to be occupied by the water of Lake Huron.

Any ideas as to why the water level has receded so much up there?
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All the Great Lake levels are way down over the past several years. Theories include lack of ice cover and excess evaporation from climate change. There is a high and low cycle as well. I remember in the 70s, the lakes were taking out shoreline houses. Some of the older houses on Lake Erie were islands in the low lying areas near Monroe.
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There are multiple theories to why the water is so low. Growing up, the family had a farm right on the Saginaw Bay. My great grandparents would farm it when there were no factory jobs to be had in Detroit. I can recall it being mostly swamp when I was a boy, now the area is dry as a can be.

One theory is that the Army Corps of Engineers had to dig the St. Clair a little deeper in a few places to allow for the big frieghters to pass. This helped to speed water coming out of the Northern Great Lakes.

I recently heard that all of the snow we have had will help restore some of the water to the lakes, and some places may see an increase of 11 to 12 inches.
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Nobody suggested a stop at the ForeStore in Forester? This is between Port Sanilac and Harbor Beach. For future reference, this is a general store where you can pick up a some of the essentials, where kids can choose from all sorts of penny candy, where summer residents can pick up the a kitschy doodad for the cottage or boat, and where tourists can pick up a book or two on local and state historical topics and lore.

And in front of the store, check out the mileage from there to points around the globe. Take your photo with the antique car cutout!

In Harbor Beach, check out the Frank Murphy historical marker in front of the family home just a block south of the main intersection in town: http://www.michmarkers.com/Pag es/S0285.htm

As you will note, Frank Murphy is buried in the local cemetery south of town on the main road.
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An increase of 12 inches in the water level is typical for Lake Huron from winter to summer. All of the great lakes water levels drop in winter and rise in summer. The current projections are that Lakes Huron and Michigan will stay below last years levels until around July, when they are projected to go slightly above last year. All of the water level information you need is at: http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/ greatlakes/hh/greatlakeswaterl evels/
I believe there is also a link to a study of the effect of dredging the St. Clair River referenced by Detroitplanner above.
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Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sludgedaddy -

That would have been a great photo-op, the military landing craft motoring through dozens of naked hippies(hipsters?), frolicking in the water and on the beach in that remote area.
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Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The water levels along the great Lakes including any shoreline in metro Detroit from Lake Saint Clair and many inland waterways has been fluctuating as long as we have been keeping records. Long term we have barely been keeping records compared to the age of the lakes. Historical data as well as old maps, aerials, stories and more show that water levels on the great lakes go up and down. If I remember right there is supposed to be a 30 year cycle of highs and lows.
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Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just for a comparison to the 30-year cycle theory, the record high levels for the local lakes was in 1986, 22 years ago. But the records from the Army Corps only go back to 1918, so it is very hard to determine what the cycle is.
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Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 5:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my family owned a place on Saginaw Bay between Port Austin and Caseville for almost 60 years. i've seen pictures with water levels all over the place-from within feet of our boathouse to hundreds of feet away. water levels have been very low the past couple of years, but i have seen pictures that showed it lower.
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

zimm, when i was a kid in harbor beach, we could walk dry-shod to several wrecks inside the harbor. today they are under 1-2 ft of h2o. i also recall the hippies in the dunes - we often picknic'd there with friends.
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

GSGEORGE, what's the way into Pointe Aux Barques? Is it from the east side off Wallace Road? I have always been intrigued by the town (resort, whatever). A few years back King Books had a book on the history of the area published by the Pointe Aux Barques Resort Association. I'm sorry I didn't get it. Info is scarce on the web.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 7:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if you want to take m29 north, it will end at the east end of gratiot avenue in marysville by the marysville powerplant. at that point it becomes m-25...

my mom has lots of family up in pigeon, elkton, bad axe, harbor beach, caseville, cass city and kingston. ive spent many many hours in the back of the family car going to visit family...
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 8:08 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The water levels in the bay are just effected more because the bay slowly goes out to deeper water so low levels cause the shore to go way out. I don't know if the thumb beach owners are in on it but in Bay City there is a group Save Our Shoreline, or SOS who fight to keep the right to clear the beaches when the DNR trys to declare them wetlands.

Anyway the thumb can be alot of fun. Caseville is a great get away. But if you are gay make sure you don't get pulled over the police out that way are assholes.