  Lodgedodger Member Username: Lodgedodger Post Number: 172 Registered: 05-2008 |
In the city I see three letters spray-painted on many buildings. It may be a kid who gets around, but I'm not quite sure. I keep seeing, "FUD" sprayed on buildings. Does it have some sort of meaning? What might be other "code" graffiti we see around the city, that someone like me might not "get". Thanks. | ||
Jcole Member Username: Jcole Post Number: 2747 Registered: 04-2005 |
F*** You, Detroit?? Just a guess | ||
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal Post Number: 1335 Registered: 09-2004 |
In geek speak.... Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 955 Registered: 04-2006 |
graffiti tags almost always have a meaning. FUD might be an abbreviation, but I don't know in this case. you ever see "AMES" around? It seems to only be up in a few places now (one is a wood assemblage piece on a building on Clifford, directly north of D'Mongos), but I happened to meet the guy. His name is Jim. Jim=James, which brings you to Ames. Kind of clever. ---- On a related topic... Who else has spotted the Swoon pieces that appeared a few months ago? She is cool. I don't care what you think about graffiti. She throws up really evocative life size wheat pastes of children on the street, etc... There is one on the west side of cass... I think it is either near MLK, down by the old china town, or somewhere in between. check it out. Have you seen any others? | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 2219 Registered: 05-2005 |
"it don't exist" self explanitory i think | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 5959 Registered: 12-2005 |
"13" is for M, the 13th letter of the alphabet. The M is for marijauna. | ||
Amgasper01 Member Username: Amgasper01 Post Number: 61 Registered: 02-2008 |
Can anyone take a guess on "SWL?" I've seen it everywhere from road signs to buildings to toilet bowl lids in bars. | ||
Dannyv Member Username: Dannyv Post Number: 310 Registered: 08-2007 |
A law was passed recently in California to curb graffiti by making the convict clean up the site. http://www.latimes.com/news/lo cal/la-me-graffiti31-2008jul31 ,0,2573143.story | ||
Izzyindetroit Member Username: Izzyindetroit Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2008 |
I always wondered what the tag WARD was all about. | ||
Detroithabitater Member Username: Detroithabitater Post Number: 160 Registered: 10-2006 |
'fudgasm' @ NE corner of Rosa Parks and Mich Ave | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 13632 Registered: 12-2003 |
I know at least one place SWL frequents...  but their contemporary's sense of humor is absolutely priceless!  | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 13633 Registered: 12-2003 |
One more from that day's journey...  ...went looking for a shot of what I called the Paint Can graveyard...but couldn't find it. | ||
D_mcc Member Username: D_mcc Post Number: 1100 Registered: 12-2007 |
Clean it up like this: http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/ 01/11/reverse-graffiti/ | ||
Tayshaun22 Member Username: Tayshaun22 Post Number: 428 Registered: 02-2005 |
M13 might be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M ara_Salvatrucha One surely should be able to tell the difference between tagging and actual gang graffiti. | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 824 Registered: 02-2007 |
Jimaz- Not to argue with you, but it is more like "Mara Salvatura" or MS13, a well known and long- feared Salvadorian gang straight from the dope fields of the San Salvador region of El Salvador. The MS is how they mark their turf, and depending on the coast they are from, the numerical tag is either 3 or 13 (east or west respectively).Youa re also correct with your 13 correlation, as they are predominately weed heads! I have seen them kill "posers" for using their tags. These are some bad-ass dudes, and I don't know of any of them in the Detroit area, as I haven't seen them tagging anything anywhere yet. SWL=South West Latinos I particularly like the one SW gang tag "Vomitz"! | ||
Lodgedodger Member Username: Lodgedodger Post Number: 186 Registered: 05-2008 |
Someone around the Milwaukee Junction area keeps drawing the bum-end of pigs. It's on all the buildings. | ||
Grumpyoldlady Member Username: Grumpyoldlady Post Number: 186 Registered: 06-2005 |
Too bad the energies and talents of the taggers isn't being redirected to productive and profitable artwork. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 3482 Registered: 01-2005 |
I've often thought that same thing, Grumpyoldlady. It's like the nerds that write viruses...why not channel that creativity in a positive manner? Lack of maturity is probably one reason. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 13636 Registered: 12-2003 |
How do you KNOW they aren't also doing other artwork? I cannot imagine the creativity that I've witnessed in some graffiti able to be bound simply to that one outlet...plus, they've got to afford all that paint somehow! I also can't imagine them schlepping a ladder into a few of the buildings I've seen...and since they also hit the TOPS of some others...I imagine some uber-creative super-race of giants who can make themselves invisible to us...because I've NEVER seen a tagger. Ever. And I get around at some odd-ass times in this city in areas where their effects are clearly being updated on a regular basis! | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 825 Registered: 02-2007 |
Tay- I can't believe that I misspelled Salvatrucha! We appear to be on the same track, though. | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1497 Registered: 10-2003 |
I personally am amazed sometimes at where spray winds up. Some of the tops of buildings and watertowers seem pretty perilous, often outright impossible. I wonder how they do it. Some of the tags on the Packard plants overhead walkway over Bellevue is an example. How in the hell do they get that done? Res. have you ever heard of Jesus Malverde, patron saint of the drug trade? Popular Robin Hood like character in Mexico and Central America. | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 729 Registered: 11-2006 |
Savy Don't is very common downtown in both the form of stickers and spray paint. Another one I see around midtown alot is stacks. Not sure of the meaning of either. | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1780 Registered: 11-2003 |
D_mcc as much as I hate graffiti that is one form that the cynic in me absolutely loves. | ||
Hamtragedy Member Username: Hamtragedy Post Number: 236 Registered: 10-2007 |
As impressive as the acrobatics are, keep in mind, most are done at night. | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 830 Registered: 02-2007 |
He was reverently referred to as "La Mafia de Sinaloa" or "the Gangster of Sinaloa". That place (in and around Sinaloa) was a famous bud factory all the way into the late 80's (and still is), and his legend was renowned throughout the region. There was a dude named Sanchez that used to sing narcocorridos in the cantinas when we were there and he basically sang of this dudes greatness in the bud trade. He later moved to the States and was a popular crooner in LA I think. I vaguely remember him getting smoked at a show when he went home in the 90's, I think. By the way, Jesus Malverde was somewhat of a legend and was really never busted by anyone until his death around the turn of the century, as I remember. A lot of the guys we busted and interrogated spoke of wanting to go out just like him...........as a legend. Dude, you jogged a ragged memory of that place for me again tonight, as the weather lately has been very reminiscent of how I lived for almost two years chasing those idiotas down...... | ||
Anniedawg25 Member Username: Anniedawg25 Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2008 |
I see FUD and GASM all over the place. Usually together in the on the same building....wonder if they are part of the same crew. | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1499 Registered: 10-2003 |
Res, My Mom bought me a small gold necklace of Jesus Malverde upon my request while she lived in Mexico. I kept it on a string along with a small Buddah I bought in Thailand and a NYC subway token I got while on a wonderful trip to NY with my Ex. Ive heard of the narcocorridos. As I understand there still very popular in the SW states and Mexico. A very popular type of ballad that reps the famous drug runners of yesterday and today. Its sort of a Spanish twist on the modern American gangster. Popular with their fans are fancy shirts with guns, marijuana, fancy cars, and $$ emblems in their design. It reminded me of some of the beautiful rugs Ive seen come out of Pakistan with AK-47s, Mercedes Benz's, again the $$ symbol, and even Tanks woven into them. Beautiful rugs, with their creators designs passed down generation to generation, each time gaining a new symbol. I hope that made sense. | ||
Gianni Member Username: Gianni Post Number: 389 Registered: 05-2004 |
MS 13 is an unintended consequence of US imperialism. I was active in the early 80's in the El Salvador solidarity movement. The US govt was funding and supporting the El Salvador oligarchs and their death squads. In those days I could not imagine anything as evil or scary as an El Salvador right wing death squad. Those are the guys who were killing nuns and priests -- and bishops -- who dared speak out for the poor and dispossessed. During this time many Salvadorans came to the US as political refugees or simply illegals fleeing the death squads. Of course Reagan-appointed US immigration judges did not look kindly on refugees from the death squads our govt was supporting. But nevertheless many of these people lived here, mostly in California, long enough to have families. The kids grew up on the mean streets of LA and learned gang culture from the best. Then they got deported to El Salvador, a country where they never lived or where they only lived as infants. And they brought our gang banging ways to the old country that they never knew. Now the death squads, who are older and grayer, live in fear of gangs like MS 13 who are the children of those they made refugees. I may be wrong on the name of the gang. MS 13 is maybe from Honduras. But the story is the same. God help us if these guys ever come to Detroit. | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1501 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ive always found it strange that "gangs" have not made a place for themselves here in the D. Seems like a perfect place to set up shop. Why is that culture only mostly West Coast phenom? We always see a few tags from gangs but never anything serious. Im grateful but curious. | ||
Caboose Member Username: Caboose Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2008 |
I was made aware of this site through a friend. The South West Latinos might not be some nationwide gang, but people ought to be aware of them for their own safety. My childhood friend had a bad run in with them in the summer of 2007 as he was walking back home near that abandoned book depository (some people call it the paper factory). Apparently, SWL uses that building like some sort of club house. First he ran into one of them, and then three or four of them cornered him. It was a low traffic area, and so no one could see him. They saw that he was on his cell phone as he was walking and they asked him "who was phone?" in broken english before they proceeded to push him around, and eventually cold cocked him in the jaw because he was wearing Sneakers with White Laces. They just do that because it fits their acronym. I also heard they Smoke Wizard Leaf. I don't really do drugs, so I don't know what that is, maybe some kind of hallucinigenic super marijuana they use before they go out and commit their heinous crimes. It's probably why their graffiti pictures above is so colorful. I can only imagine what's going on in the mind of a gang member with a head full of mind altering substance. Seriously, these guys are bad news and it would be in your best interests to stay away from where ever they are, but the problem here is that I've seen their tags in almost every bathroom all across Detroit, even in Midtown. I guess my best advice is to keep a watchful eye, and take care not to wear shoes with white laces. | ||
237am Member Username: 237am Post Number: 16 Registered: 07-2008 |
there is a new gallery/cafe spot that open across from slows.... 2125 mich ave... called "elements" the first showing of work was last week and the space came a long way..... a few friends of mine took on the space cleaned it up and now it's a usable gallery space... they are trying to showcase more than just art...but more for a space to promote positivity.... the space is mainly "hip hop" influenced with people that are into graff/breakin'/mc'/djin'/etc.. ..... i would also peep out sintex's stuff......he helped create the new spray paint line called plutonium.....and is a talent artist in line/graff work stay safe | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 833 Registered: 02-2007 |
Caboose- Welcome to the forum! I am sorry that your friend had to learn such a hard lesson at the hand of these folks, but it is a bit of an insight into what is to come as the immigration of folks(both legal and illegal) begins to grow in our country. Lain America is filled with these types of gangs, as poverty and hierarchy lead to the formation of gangs to stay alive. Ironically, just as this thread was picking up speed, the Free Press published a story about the killings of people speaking out against and trying to clean-up the "tags" in LA and Southern California. I guess what I said came somewhat true based on what I read there. Check it out, I think it was in Friday or Saturdays paper(on line). Another place to learn more about this is the series "Gangland" which is either a Discovery or HBO production on cable tv. That series is slowly covering gangs and gangland violence across America as it chugs along, and is quite an eye opener to the uninitiated. Definitely a good watch if you want to learn a bit about that kind of street life. Almost all of the statements that I have made on this forum or in the gang related threads I've participated in were based on what I saw in the military doing DI work back in the early and mid 80's, OVER 20 YEARS AGO. It is just beginning to affect us here, and my prediction is it will grow as the burgeoning neighborhoods fill with the influx of people who come from that lifestyle. Gianni expresses himself well as one who was there when I was and saw the same type of activity that I did. These gangs (MS13) and such were the banditos of their regions, and, unless you were on the ground there, you would not know of them now. But today is a very different and scary time here in Detroit(especially SW) than ever before in our history, as the influx of Latios grows exponentially daily. The wizard leaf that you speak of is "Salvia divinorum", (reference link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S alvia_divinorum), a pretty powerful replacement for marijuana, and is psychotropically more dangerous in the fact that it produces pretty heavy hallucinations. The rise in these gangs and their activities will be when they begin to "jump in" members or have them perform "acts", as initiations" to become members of those gangs. Then the shit will really hit the fan, and we will see much more of the violent activity that Gianni spoke of in his most eloquent post. In the end, the "tags" we see daily may look like cool works of art, but they are being made by increasingly growing gangs that want all of us to fear them. And they will stop at nothing to make that a true statement. A lot of my cop friends and I have discussed these "tags" and their meanings many times knowing that I have seen them before in the military, and the DPD actually keeps photos of these "tags" so that they can identify which gangs are doing what around the city. These guys are so bold as to mark their crimes after committing them, so as to say "hey, watch out for us!", kind of like throwing the ace of spades on the bodies you leave behind after a hit. It's known as a calling card. Some of the gangs we ran into in Honduras, but a majority of the gangs that I encountered were from Guatemala, Belize, Colombia, Peru and the Mexico. They were some very bad-asssed people, too. I hope we never see even a small bit of them here, but the danger grows as we have the influx of immigration all around us, especially in SW Detroit. By the way, Django, don't wear that necklace around SW Detroit, as it will invite them to swarm you and you WILL get your ass kicked, but good, if not lose your life. | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1522 Registered: 10-2003 |
Its not a necklace that anyone would recognize. Its so small, I would have to explain to ppl what it is. Thanks but no worries. I dont know why anyone in a gang would be insulted by me wearing a necklace of one of their Patron Saints?? | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 834 Registered: 02-2007 |
Only because you are not PART of their gang, and they would view you as a "poser", so to speak. I realize it is a stretch, but the white shoe laces were too, and they messed with him. They will do anything to assert their machismo and prove that they should be the "alpha male" in their gang, and pounding on some innocent white guy is just one of them. Remember, too, that not all bangers worship Malverde. He is just one of many drug lords that rule Latin America, so, by wearing it, you might even attract attention to yourself, which makes you more of a target. Additionally, since you don't speak fluent Spanish(I am assuming this), you would have a very difficult time explaining your reasoning as most of the bangers would not accept an English response. I would hate to see them mistake you for something you were not, and then you would be unable to "talk" your way out, that's all. | ||
Detroitwhat Member Username: Detroitwhat Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2007 |
SWL=South West Latinos I particularly like the one SW gang tag "Vomitz Actually SWL stands for Smooth Wizard League. I have a few friends in that crew | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1552 Registered: 10-2003 |
Res. I def. think were confusing things. Malverde was not in the drug business. Its a story from the early 1900s I believe. As I understand he was given Mexican Sainthood status due to his actions with the then polica. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 13698 Registered: 12-2003 |
I certainly don't want to be around when the Smooth Wizard League runs into the SouthWest Latinos and learns firsthand how much those gangbangers hate other's using their acronym. You'll pass on that little tidbit for us, Detroitwhat?! Thanks! (welcome, btw) | ||
Detroitwhat Member Username: Detroitwhat Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2007 |
There is no such thing as the Southwest Latinos. If there is they do not use that acronym. | ||
Alley Member Username: Alley Post Number: 521 Registered: 02-2008 |
I love the Dead Krakhead pieces http://www.flickr.com/photos/e xcusemysarcasm/sets/7215760474 6241052/show/with/1659139667/ in fact, I would recommend this Flickr set all together for Detroit street art http://www.flickr.com/photos/excusemysarcasm/collections/72157603358117860/ (Message edited by alley on August 06, 2008) (Message edited by alley on August 06, 2008) | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 839 Registered: 02-2007 |
Django- Malverde was indeed a drug dealer: link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J es%C3%BAs_Malverde He was also a Robin Hood like figure, and was highly regarded amongst the Mexican people as such. Read the link and it will help you to understand. South West Latinos was a gang when I was growing up(early to late 70's) in the 'hood just past the salt mines all the way down to Waterman off Fort Street and they were some pretty bad folks. Their chicks were as tough as their guys! The cops I know still deal with them pretty regularly, and there seems to be a resurgence of new membership according to the gang squad guys...... | ||
237am Member Username: 237am Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2008 |
the only gangs that i knew that were around rouge/southwest were latin counts 98 posse' folks cobras this was in the late 80's early 90's or so.... | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1558 Registered: 10-2003 |
Res. The link mentioned nothing of Malverde being a DD. Drugs were not even illegal in 1909 when he was killed. It says he was a bandit as I already knew. Im not sure though how he was revered as a hero to DDs and traffickers. (Message edited by django on August 06, 2008) | ||
Vintagesoul Member Username: Vintagesoul Post Number: 60 Registered: 06-2007 |
thanks detroitwhat for setting the SWL thing straight... i'm a huge fan of the graff in detroit myself... i've been in that same building gannon posted photos from... my husband and i went and took pictures of the train tracks before they completed the bike trail project. it truly is an art form. these folks are very talented - and what i've learned from my husband is they will always put up because that's what it's all about...even if they do create art in other ways on other media...infamy is a good documentary to watch if you want some insight into the minds of these painters...they're not just kids... <img> <img> | ||
Sstashmoo Member Username: Sstashmoo Post Number: 2137 Registered: 02-2007 |
Quote: "Ive always found it strange that "gangs" have not made a place for themselves here in the D." Probably same reasons Capone avoided Detroit. There isn't much here to exploit. Most of the suburbanites avoid Detroit like the plague. The majority of people that live in the city, don't have anything. Businesses are gone. Why would they come here? They need to adapt a new policy on gangs. If you're in a gang, you're executed. There is no place in a peaceful society for these ruthless thugs. | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1560 Registered: 10-2003 |
Thats a genius statement Sst. When Capone was around, Detroit was thriving. Back then suburbanites were farmers. As far as your proposal of execution of anyone who is in a gang, LOL. IMHO the killing of another human is just wrong as a punishment. Deterence has not been a factor in reducing crime. | ||
Ruxy17 Member Username: Ruxy17 Post Number: 8 Registered: 08-2007 |
I see "PORAB" around a lot. | ||
Detroitwhat Member Username: Detroitwhat Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2007 |
Some really good "graf" artists to check out are: FAR Rodeo Porab Vomit Grimm and of course Brah | ||
Vintagesoul Member Username: Vintagesoul Post Number: 61 Registered: 06-2007 |
let me add stori and riku to that list detroitwhat. their pieces are amazing. and kosek - but i don't think he's done anything in a while. i'm not really too keen on SWL, i'm not a big fan of their letter style. and can anyone put some truth to the rumor that Armee is KK's nephew? i've heard it before, but i don't know if it's ever been proven... | ||
Plymouthres Member Username: Plymouthres Post Number: 840 Registered: 02-2007 |
237am- Since I didn't mention it, I was referring to gangs in the 60's, 70's and early 80's in SW Detroit, which were just down the street from where I grew up in Melvindale and adjacent to where my paternal grandfather lived on Pitt and Inglas, just down the street from St. Gabe's off of Vernor. The gangs that I remember from my youth were the Latin Counts, Ca$$h Flow Posse, Darkside, Cobras, South West Latinos and a couple of others that elude my memory now. YBI was around a bit then as well. As far back as I can remember, Detroit has always had gangs, just not as prominent here as some other American cities, thank goodness. I cannot imagine what it would be like if they were prolific around here in addition to the everyday crime that happens as well. It would indeed be a zoo. Maybe the "new" gang that uses the SWL tag calls themselves what you say they do, but the gang of my youth that used the SWL tags were the South West Latinos. There was a guy named Tony that drove a 71 Mach One that was orange and black that ran with them, and he lived on Sanders by the salt mines across from where the Palamino Club is located now. I remember him having a graphic on the back window of his car at one point in the mid 70's, but he took it off after the cops kept pulling him over for it! Good thing you "set me straight" on that Detroitwhat. Django- Perhaps I should have said that Malverde was also into a bunch of other things and was not solely into the drugs, but he had ties to them and the guys we busted, again, spoke of him very reverently. I also said that most of what I remembered about him was from 1981-1984, when I did a majority of my stuff down there and I was just trying to think back about 20+ years ago as I had the recollection that I spoke of in my post #830 of him being mentioned in the interrogations of the guys that we busted. I never intended to rile you up and am in no way an expert on Malverde, but I do know a bit about the guys we were tearing up back then and what they had to say. I understand your opinion on the drug wars, but I don't agree with your stance on the legalization of all of the shit you advocate, only pot. I think legalizing the other stuff is too dangerous and it is bad enough having the illegal stuff to deal with rather than having to deal with the problems that are peripherially associated with the treatment, and later, the addiction of people who use. We cannot even take care of the mentally ill in this city let alone introducing another whole generation to addiction of any type, beyond the tremendous crime that would skyrocket past what it already is in this city when all the users can't get their drugs and start stealing from the rest of us to get their fix. This is just my opinion after spending 3 years trying to eradicate drugs from our country, and seeing the damage done by a non-chalant approach to enforcing current laws and enormous corruption within the drug enforcement community. Until the people vote to legalize the stuff, that will be my stance, and is my opinion only. Of course you lived addiction, so you are entitled to speak as one who comes from that side of the street as well. We should start another thread if you want to debate the drug issues, as this is about tagging, not Malverde or drugs or legalization. I happen to be fascinated by the tags as well, and have always admired the artists work. The other side of that is that it certainly makes an area look more run down, not less. Again, this is just my opinion. Sorry to all for the threadjack! | ||
Detroitwhat Member Username: Detroitwhat Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2007 |
Ok Plymouth, real quick they are not called "gangs" they are called "crews." Thank you. | ||
Django Member Username: Django Post Number: 1565 Registered: 10-2003 |
Res. you didnt rile me up at all, I just assumed we had a misunderstanding over Malverde. Maybe I worded my post wrong, I didnt mean to be offensive at all. I still think Malverde had nothing to do with the drug trade though, unless theres some history in writing I havnt seen that says he was. The man died in 1909, what drug was he dealing that wasnt legal at that time? I guess he could have been running coca leaf but why? As far as the drug war and legalization, I may have used the word legalization in the past and that was my mistake, honestly Im not sure if I did or not. Ive been a supporter of decriminalization for many years, not outright legalization, mainly because I dont see the point in locking ppl up for a non violent drug offense. In this sense I am a Conservative. I dont want a big government telling me what I can and cannot do in my home if Im not hurting anyone else. I doubt drug use would soar with decrim. And remember drugs are as expensive as they are today because they are illegal. And no, our current health care administration cannot handle the mentally ill but the prison system is. 2.5 million in prison here in the states, more than any other country per capita. I remember in about 1990 we had under a million in prison. Drug crimes are the reason for this incredible increase. Prisons have become big business in this country, it sickens me. I believe there must be a better solution than just say no and mandatory minimums for drug offenders, as its had no effect. Your right though Res, this deserves a different thread. Not sure I feel like taking on that battle right now though. Once you start a thread like that you have have the need to constantly defend it. I keep hoping someone else will though. I also apologize for the threadjack. | ||
Big_baby_jebus Member Username: Big_baby_jebus Post Number: 3 Registered: 09-2008 |
Sample Detroit's Graff... http://onlyndetroit.com/html/g raff/graffsubmenu.htm | ||
Eriedearie Member Username: Eriedearie Post Number: 3718 Registered: 08-2007 |
Thanks Big_baby_jebus for the link. Wilbur Wright High School is where I graduated from. It was good to see that picture, but sad to see the state of appearances of it. I wonder how many times I rushed through those doors, trying to make it to class on time? From what I understand, the building has been demolished by now. I think I did a google map or something a while back and saw an empty lot. Oh well, memories... BTW welcome to the forum!  | ||
Navi Member Username: Navi Post Number: 6 Registered: 09-2005 |
Eriedearie, Wilbur Wright is still there and wide open. I think there are plans to demo it. | ||
Eriedearie Member Username: Eriedearie Post Number: 3736 Registered: 08-2007 |
Navi - really? Next time I'm in the area, I'll do a drive-by and take pictures. | ||
Big_baby_jebus Member Username: Big_baby_jebus Post Number: 6 Registered: 09-2008 |
Hey Eriedearie, Thanks for the welcome, I know the guys that run onlyndetroit.com and they are always looking for before pictures of the buildings they feature. If you have some pictures I highly suggest that you contact them and see if you can work something out. Same goes for any other building featured on the site. Now, as for graff I will shed some light on a few mis-conceptions here, I also know quite a few painters. SWL = Smooth Wizards League (gay I know) FUD & Gasm = two diff peeps, No deep meaning, same crew, not Mexicans Dont & Savy = SUCK DICK, no one like these kids, not even other writers/painters MS13 = Mexican gang and that's all I'll say bout that Wilbur Write - Still there, still dead Vomit = Not in a “gang”, more than a SW tagger for sure Gangs are for wiggers, they don't know shit about spray paint so don't confuse them with "artist crews". Good Graff culture Sites: http://www.yosfone.com/ http://www.12ozprophet.com |
