  Leannam1989 Member Username: Leannam1989 Post Number: 33 Registered: 06-2008 |
Just looking on Google Streetview I saw a store that said it was black owned. I have no problem with that, but what does it matter if it's black owned? Do black owned businesses usually say so? It just kind of surprised me. If they want blacks to come in and support their business because it is black owned I understand, I've just never seen that before. Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm certainly not trying to. I'm just curious. Here's the sign. http://tinyurl.com/6bf7xv It's at the corner of Erwin and Traverse. (Message edited by leannam1989 on August 13, 2008) | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 8161 Registered: 10-2003 |
I wonder if there is a "Black Owned" lawnmower somewhere for that grass. | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 2940 Registered: 07-2004 |
I think Detroit is a vibrant place for that kind of bloc marketing. (And, back in 1967, in the heat of the looting, it was a way to try to ward off crime for the hottest nights.) | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1092 Registered: 11-2003 |
In many urban communities, there is some serious animosity between Chaldean/Arab and Black Folk... The idea of "Black Owned" or "BO&O" you'll sometimes see especially on cleaners and liquor stores is to signify to the neighborhood that it's one of them who own the place and if you shop there you're supporting a black business owner, and many times, that owner lives in the neighborhood. The roots of this are that there are only a few businesses and sources of jobs, and it's frustrating to some that those jobs and that money leaves the city and black community. On the flip side, the Chaldeans and Arab descent folks are many times the only people who will invest in those areas. As with most conflicts, nobody's 100% right or wrong. I would say black-arab animosity is way higher than black-white animosity in my experience. Black-owned and minority owned is commonly mentioned - Works very well in getting government contracts - can have bad effects if you're going for corporate work unless the corporation you're selling to needs to fill a quota. A VERY large number of Detroit-based businesses rely almost entirely on quotas and government work. This is anecdotal, but 4 of 5 private companies I run into in the city have government work as their cornerstone client, whether it be the national, city, state, or the schools. And usually, the 1 that's not is white-owned. Interpret that as you will. | ||
Digitalvision Member Username: Digitalvision Post Number: 1093 Registered: 11-2003 |
Johnlodge - go down Erwin a little bit and you'll find what looks like a black-owned lawnmower working hard to take care of some grass :-) http://tinyurl.com/5qovsk (Trying to accentuate the positive) | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 259 Registered: 06-2008 |
lol @ JL. This isn't that unusual. Personally, I have mixed feelings about this sort of thing. I understand that blacks are trying to "rise up" and whatnot and I can see why, all other things being equal, some black people might want to support a black business over a white or arab business since its harder for blacks to get access to capital to open a business with and because black businesses are relatively rare as a result. On the other hand, it's similar to the whole "Buy American" thing that tries to guilt people into buying cars that they'd have no problem buying in the first place if the quality was there...if you make a quality product or provide a quality service, then people will buy it regardless of whether it's American made or black owned or whatever. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 3398 Registered: 04-2006 |
That store looks pretty abandoned to me. Can anyone verify that it's still open? I think that the practice of painting "black owned" on a building came about to discourage vandals from destroying the property. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 8163 Registered: 10-2003 |
Nice catch, DV! | ||
Fmstack Member Username: Fmstack Post Number: 74 Registered: 06-2007 |
I'm white, but I'm completely for black businessowners who choose to identify their stores as black-owned. In Detroit, a sign like that indicates that money spent there will most likely stay in the community, in one sense or another. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 8164 Registered: 10-2003 |
How about "Detroiter-Owned". Then you really know money spent there will stay in the community. | ||
Gogo Member Username: Gogo Post Number: 1451 Registered: 11-2003 |
"black owned" is usually code word for "I got crappy stuff and crappy service so I'm gonna rely on some sort of emotioanl response to run my business". That's why you typically see it written on abandoned buildings or businesses that are no longer in business, because they got crappy stuff and crappy service. Just avoid it, it'll most likely be out of business in a little bit anyway. | ||
Lodgedodger Member Username: Lodgedodger Post Number: 344 Registered: 05-2008 |
I noticed that some time ago driving on Grand Boulevard. I wasn't sure if I welcome in the store. | ||
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd Post Number: 2943 Registered: 07-2004 |
I don't know about black-owned, but I've been seeing more and more bank-owned properties lately. | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 8166 Registered: 10-2003 |
laugh/cry | ||
Bearinabox Member Username: Bearinabox Post Number: 775 Registered: 04-2006 |
quote:Speaking of which, anyone notice that this store is a block away from the $1 house in the other thread? | ||
Ravine Member Username: Ravine Post Number: 2555 Registered: 01-2006 |
I think it would be very humorous if a white guy opened a party store, painted "Black Owned" on the storefront, and hired a local black guy to sit up in the little office area and sell money orders. Then, if anybody asks him why the rest of the staff is white, he can smirk and say, "'Cuz they show up on time." If you are thinking about ripping me for my comments, don't bother, because A)I'm just playing, and B)I don't care. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 1382 Registered: 11-2006 |
I'll reply first, Ravine: That was funny. Purely funny. | ||
Blksoul_x Member Username: Blksoul_x Post Number: 298 Registered: 06-2007 |
The 'Black owned' and operated sub-system is an antiquated philosophy within the Black experience__to be sure 'we' have a more refined and multifaceted plan for conveying Black power...which includes the larger society...and perhaps, a good thing is...'basic whites people' don't have a clue to what it is about__go figure! The Revolution Will Not Be Televised_atcha! blksoul_atcha! Founding member of the BJL Obama' 08! | ||
Whittier70 Member Username: Whittier70 Post Number: 178 Registered: 02-2008 |
...'basic whites people' | ||
Umbound Member Username: Umbound Post Number: 209 Registered: 02-2008 |
I have a strong opinion about this, being i am Chaldean and not Arab. The reason why we just work our stores in the city and "take your money and run to them burbs" is because why in the world would we do otherwise when liquor stores and supermarkets have continuous problems with theft, racism, and all of the above. I assume there are a lot of people on this forum who do have issues with Chaldeans, but if anything the city government should be doing more to look out for us because were the only people who will invest anywhere in this city, and not just downtown. | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 896 Registered: 11-2006 |
There is a party store near the Fraser Roseville border with an 'American owned' sign. That is code for American of European decent owned. | ||
N7hn Member Username: N7hn Post Number: 42 Registered: 02-2008 |
well, also it is cheap to set up a business in detroit and a liquor store in detroit is almost a sure bet as long as you charge enuff to cover theft and security systems. too bad liquor sales only degrades the community more by adding to violence and apathy. It would be nice if the investment was in something more community benefitting.... Im just sayin...... | ||
Hamtragedy Member Username: Hamtragedy Post Number: 259 Registered: 10-2007 |
Did you know that in Harlem, even pre -Clinton, a dollar exchanged hands up to 80 times before leaving the community? In Detroit, that same dollar exchanges hands 4 times before leaving. | ||
N7hn Member Username: N7hn Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2008 |
well at that its already stayed longer than some residents.............. | ||
Whittier70 Member Username: Whittier70 Post Number: 184 Registered: 02-2008 |
what??? | ||
N7hn Member Username: N7hn Post Number: 46 Registered: 02-2008 |
me? "Did you know that in Harlem, even pre -Clinton, a dollar exchanged hands up to 80 times before leaving the community? In Detroit, that same dollar exchanges hands 4 times before leaving" I was clowning that the 4 times it took to leave outlasted some residents.....sorry, shoulda been more clear, and funnier. I apologize | ||
Thames Member Username: Thames Post Number: 210 Registered: 02-2007 |
Umbound, I love my Chaldean friends! | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 1302 Registered: 04-2005 |
"black owned" sounds to me like "we don't need or want white people around." that's a tough business proposition in a community which is predominantly black, and is obviously not self-sufficient. it's a business that risks deterring a diverse customer base, while pandering to a clientele that has a high rate of illiteracy and unemployment. | ||
Fmstack Member Username: Fmstack Post Number: 80 Registered: 06-2007 |
Hamtragedy: That's an awesome statistic. Where did you see it? | ||
Umbound Member Username: Umbound Post Number: 210 Registered: 02-2008 |
N7hn, we dont degrade the community, were doing a service to the community because nobody else will go into the nieghborhoods and serve it. whilst we risk our lives going down there everyday, were still getting racial remarks said to us all the time like, "go back to your country". and Alley nice post Blksoul is full of sh!t. |
