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Mikeg
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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 4:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

View from Crowley's, July 1966
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View from Crowley's, July 1966

Kern Block rooftops, July 1966
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Kern Block rooftops, July 1966

Demolition close-up, July 1966
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Demolition close-up, July 1966
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 5:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice work Mikeg! :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 8:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where was kerns located? the site of the compuware building?
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quote:

where was kerns located? the site of the compuware building?



Yes, on the Woodward side of the "Kern Block", which was bounded by Woodward, Gratiot, Farmer and Monroe.

This 1920's image of the Kern Block shows the location of the buildings on that block. In that image, Woodward is on the left and Monroe is on the right. Sam's occupied the old Detroit Opera House.
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'61 Thunderbird in the foreground!
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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 9:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks mike! were you the one taking those pic's? more please!
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Mikeg
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quote:

thanks mike! were you the one taking those pic's? more please!


You're welcome, on behalf of the original photographer and a few others who saw fit to preserve these gems and gave their permission to share them with everyone. I'm just the digitizer and while I have a fair knowledge of the old downtown Detroit streetscape, my historical expertise lies elsewhere. Feel free to correct any factual errors or errors of omission that may occur as I post these images.

And yes, there is more to come, on this thread and others.....
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Mikeg
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Demolition proceeds into August, 1966.
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Demolition proceeds into August, 1966.


The Monroe side of the Kern Block is gone, August, 1966. Crowley's Department store building is at right.
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Looking southwest along Gratiot at Farmer, August, 1966.


Looking southwest along Gratiot at Farmer, August, 1966. The J.L. Hudson Department store building is at right.
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Looking southwest along Gratiot at Farmer, August, 1966.
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Ray1936
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All the ladies are wearing dresses. They look so nice. And no underwear sticking out on the men. Forty years plus sure makes a difference.
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Not to mention the social equality of the time.... at least it looked nicer huh?
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The buildings and streets look a heck of a lot cleaner in these photos.

Mikeg -> Keep up the good work!
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Bulletmagnet
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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mikeg, the full size hi-rez links are fantastic! Thanks for the extra effort.
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Gibran
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It never cease to amaze me how together Detroit looked in the day.. I squint to see if I can see my dad as a youth, or a distant relative and wonder, how exciting it was to grow uo in the late forties and fifties...I know the social problems, but somehow the photos capture a time where going downtown was a delightful adventure. Taking in a movie or even a play... you could take a date and walk the streets looking at the lights of the city...at Christmas the trip to Hudson's was more than a shopping spree, it ushered in the season...and brought lasting memories...I could imagine my parents dating in the early fifties....while attending Wayne State and Highland Park Nursing schools...what choices they had to pick from.

.Detroit what a history...and I always love the old photo's ...trying to see the city of my dad's youth.
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Social problems of the 50's mentioned in several posts. I would hazard to say the social problems of Detroit today make those days look great. A lot fewer murders,less fear and more economic prosperity.

Although the city was racially divided (as if it isn't now), there was a vibrant culture in all areas.

Social problems... look around you.
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Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mikeg-

Great job!

So hard to believe...

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Mikeg
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The last wall standing, August 1966.
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The last wall standing, August 1966.


Looking across the former Kern Block toward the shops and buildings on the opposite side of Woodward, June 1968.
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Looking across the former Kern Block toward the shops and buildings on the opposite side of Woodward, June 1968.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 12:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very nice pics! Thanks a bunch. That Spiegel Bldg. should have been a keeper.
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Oh, yeah! No way anything like B.Spiegel could be reproduced today. Even the Vatican is looking for master craftsmen...hard to find them nowadays!

BTW. My mom worked at Kern's. I sent her this link, so if she has any good tidbits, I'll chime in. Thanks so much for the photos!
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I had always heard about Kerns, while I don,t shop alot, except for hardware, food and beer. I am amazed by the number of stores gone from the mix. Love them pix of Kerns, sad i never went there.
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Bulletmagnet
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The shot of the last wall standing is iconic.
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Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 - 7:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great stuff !!!
Hi MikeG.....this is your cousin here.
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Mikeg
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Hi cuz - welcome to the forum!
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Wasn't it B Siegal's?

Both the department store and the building met terrible demises. I can recall my mother dragging me in there while she looked for clothes. She never bought anything as much of the stuff seemed to be for old ladies. If I am not mistaken the Northland Store closed before this one. When this one closed the only one left was at Livernois and Seven Mile.

The building itself had a facade made of steel. It burned down when some homeless people got in there and set it on fire.

That last pic is the Detroit of my childhood. I can't remember Kerns, but remember all of the other stores downtown. I had regular doctor's appointments as a kid in the Whitney. We would take the bus downtown and it would usually turn into an entire day of wandering in and out of stores.
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Some questions.

What was the condition of the Kern's building when the store closed? Does anybody have information about the chronology of Kern's closing and the subsequent demolition? Was the demolition of the whole block done pursuant to eminent domain or did the city just buy the properties and knock everything down? Anybody have a Sanborn map of the block? At the time of the demolition, had the city announced any kind of possible redevelopment? (1966 pre-dates all of the failed Cadillac Mall proposals.)

Just curious. Thanks for any info.
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I would have thought that the Cadillac Mall proposal would have been the reason for its removal. It may have been the predecessor to the one that never was built that led to the demise of Hudsons. The City of Rochester was having success with a similar Mall at theat time between two of its large departments stores. Xerox was also part of that Development. It was called Mid-town mall and it was built by Victor Gruen. I can recall visiting the mall around 1990 to find a strange clock and a monorail set-up in the mall. At that time the mall was still operating but had clearly seen better days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M idtown_Plaza_(Rochester)
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IIRC, there are images of plans on the Virtual Motor City site of the stillborn Kern Block 1960's development.

Cadillac Mall wasn't announced till about 1978.
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Thanks Burnsie, I looked for stuff on the history of it, but surprise there is not much on the Internet regarding the history of 40 year old projects that were never built!
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All the ladies are wearing dresses. They look so nice. And no underwear sticking out on the men. Forty years plus sure makes a difference.




Don't forget to include goverment sanctioned suburban sprawl, poor land use policies and regional political fear mongering...

(Message edited by Detroit_stylin on October 15, 2008)
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Thanks Burnsie, I looked for stuff on the history of it, but surprise there is not much on the Internet regarding the history of 40 year old projects that were never built!
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Detroit_stylin wrote, "Don't forget to include goverment sanctioned suburban sprawl, poor land use policies and regional political fear mongering..."

Do you mean that those things are current only today, or that they were around way back then also? They were, of course.