  Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1955 Registered: 08-2007 |
Oh, for those folks who couldn't get away, ... no worries. I have a feeling this might not be the last time we poke Matty in the eye. | ||
Downriviera Member Username: Downriviera Post Number: 1004 Registered: 02-2008 |
Outstanding job Detroit Yessers. Matty tried to pull a land scam a few years ago in Riverview near the Grosse Ile toll bridge. Community activists nipped it in the bud. Power to the people! | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1958 Registered: 08-2007 |
Joel's take on the game, a few pix, and some conversations he had with the Matty's minion, Devil Dan Stamper: http://joelontheroad.com/?p=11 81 | ||
Cub Member Username: Cub Post Number: 829 Registered: 02-2007 |
Looks like the fence is coming down. Per KCJ. | ||
Homer Member Username: Homer Post Number: 339 Registered: 08-2004 |
Yes Channel 4 announced on the 11pm news that Mayor Ken said Matty has no right to have fences at Riverside Park and they would be removed. Tear that schitt down! | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 286 Registered: 03-2006 |
Nice Job DYesers. . . did you ever get those drinks? | ||
Cub Member Username: Cub Post Number: 830 Registered: 02-2007 |
We got Water 3 cases. | ||
Zrx_doug Member Username: Zrx_doug Post Number: 740 Registered: 03-2008 |
Holy shit! Fence is coming DOWN?! That was some fast action, right there..  | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 5476 Registered: 10-2003 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EgXdJqWc1U4 | ||
Homer Member Username: Homer Post Number: 340 Registered: 08-2004 |
Well the fence is still up and padlocked this Friday afternoon, and an unmarked tinted windowed white pickup is sitting close by. Maybe City parks and rec work order is sitting on someone's desk till Monday. | ||
Urbanoutdoors Member Username: Urbanoutdoors Post Number: 1103 Registered: 11-2005 |
So now that this is happening what can we do to organize cleanups and make sure it becomes an asset to the community once again? I am thrilled that the fence is coming down but that doesn't mean it is over, we need to utilize these city gems so that this of illegal activity can never be tolerated again. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1963 Registered: 08-2007 |
True UrbanO, but I'm not convinced Matty is going to do what he's been told to do. This might be a test for Cockrel to see if he can stand up to the forces of Evil. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1964 Registered: 08-2007 |
Update by Curt Guyette of the Metro Times: http://www.metrotimes.com/blog /newsblawg.asp?perm=517 quote: quote: quote: Don't put those gloves away just yet folks ... or maybe we'll play some flag football this time ... but this is going to be a long fight. Congrats to everyone that came out and played. Also, congrats to the folks who wanted to come but couldn't. You should all walk a little taller today, you did a good thing, be proud of yourselves. What we've discovered is that this forum is being watched by Matty, and the level of interest in the protest softball game rattled their cages. Plus, they're scared of Homer's bride. Good job to all. Thanx to Mara McDonald of Channel 4 WDIV, Curt Guyette of the Metro Times, and of course Joel Thurtell. Oh, btw, seems our friends at WDET got a bad case of cold feet in covering this issue. I've heard they got a call from a major contibutor; wonder what that conversation was about? | ||
Billybbrew Member Username: Billybbrew Post Number: 349 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks to everyone that was there that day. I know I didn't play softball, but I did come to show my support as a former SW Detroit resident, former Bridge employee and professional mariner. Apparently I helped because I was quoted in both articles. I was left speechless when I made the comparison to the Blue Water Bridge and actually a couple of other signifcant bridges by Dan's reply that the "Government owns those and they don't care" I had no clue what to say to that one. I'm all for protecting the bridge, but there has to be a way to do it that doesn't take our park and riverfont access. (Message edited by BillyBBrew on October 04, 2008) | ||
Eriedearie Member Username: Eriedearie Post Number: 3667 Registered: 08-2007 |
As far as there being a way to protect the bridge without comprising the park and the riverfront access, there is a simple solution to that. I don't know all the logistics of the matter, but whenever we cross underneath the bridge on the Windsor side, there is a Windsor patrol car sitting in the vicinity. You can see the officer inside the car watching the happenings. A Detroit patrol could be set up just as easily, couldn't it? I don't doubt it would be a very boring job for an officer on an 8 hour shift, but I have seen other patrol cars pulling out from the area. So, just maybe the officers are changed every hour or so? Makes sense to me. Or is there something I'm not understanding as to the situation under the Detroit side of the bridge? Other than Matty being the head cheese over there? | ||
Texorama Member Username: Texorama Post Number: 290 Registered: 12-2006 |
As far as that goes, E-D, I'd think a well-patrolled waterfront park would be such an asset to nearby communities that it would more than repay the investment of police time. That park, fence or no fence, is so underused right now, and it's potentially a really nice spot. | ||
Billybbrew Member Username: Billybbrew Post Number: 351 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dan Stamper said that HE is lighting the area down there and HE put up cameras and HE has private security, and so on...However, it's not to make US any safer, it's to protect HIS bosses ASSet....So my question to Dan is and was....Why don't YOU open back up the park and continue to do the same thing. You not only protect your boss' ASSet, but you also protect US and give something back to community that we can see. | ||
Homer Member Username: Homer Post Number: 341 Registered: 08-2004 |
I don't think I'll be playin any flag football in that goosepoop field, maybe a snowball fight. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1965 Registered: 08-2007 |
Good point Homer, I didn't think of the need to step over goose poo, just thought of Matty's Goosesteppers. The thing that burns my biscuits about this whole thing is that Matty took city property, has squatted his construction materials all over it, and hasn't paid a dime. I was really great meeting you and Marge. I see why you fell for her, she's a dynamo. | ||
Zrx_doug Member Username: Zrx_doug Post Number: 741 Registered: 03-2008 |
Ditto on the no football in the goose poo vote..one diving/falling non-catch and my jeans are already never gonna be the same. "These grass stains smell awful." (ZRX Doug's 82 year old mother.) Definitely up for another softball game though. (Message edited by ZRX_Doug on October 05, 2008) | ||
Busterwmu Member Username: Busterwmu Post Number: 544 Registered: 09-2004 |
So, when's the cleanup in front of MCS? | ||
Billybbrew Member Username: Billybbrew Post Number: 352 Registered: 07-2005 |
Lol @ Marge...Good one Gnome. And you're right, she is a dynamo and a great person. I've worked with her before on other projects. What you see is what you get with her...I think it was nice meeting Homer for the first time. | ||
Lefty2 Member Username: Lefty2 Post Number: 2440 Registered: 07-2007 |
Shouldn't the guy be fined at least the cost of the city dealing with this. This was over the line. | ||
Craggy Member Username: Craggy Post Number: 341 Registered: 10-2003 |
GNOME. Are you making things up? You don't know what you are talking about. We have been trying to get EXACT information from the folks at Homeland Security before we talk about it. So far, we don't have it. In fact, we've had conflicting answers from them about this property, and nobody is willing to go on record about it. THAT'S why the topic hasn't come up yet. It has NOTHING to do with our donors, and our coverage of issues at WDET never does. So...do me a favor, and call me first before posting something like that. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1969 Registered: 08-2007 |
Craggy, your absolute silence on this issue laughably belies your outrage. Where were you on the day of the softball game? I don't know, but I do know you weren't interviewing Bridge President Dan Stamper, Security Chief Jack Teatsorth, an entire cadre of Bridge Community Organizers, or even retired Journalist Joel Thurtell. Curt Guyette from the Metro Times and Mara McDonald from Channel 4 were able to stop by. Are you busier than those folks? I know you knew about the game. You had a full week to fit it into your busy schedule. Don't whine to me about you not showing up. Don't whine to me about you not covering the story. Where I come from, that's being MIA. Did it ever strike you that not being able to find the person in charge is a story in and of itself? That conflicting answers as to Bridge Jurisdiction is a major story? Until you give the airtime this story deserves you're just a fast talker/slow walker. Maybe you need to spend some more time covering the next garage band or art fair. Do US a favor, save your outrage for the people of Detroit and not for your apparently fragile ego. | ||
Craggy Member Username: Craggy Post Number: 342 Registered: 10-2003 |
Gnome... You mistake an honest question for outrage. You insinuated that a call from someone determined whether we did the story. You are wrong. That's all. I don't mind critique of subjects, our coverage of said subjects, and certainly not of my style or delivery. I am what I am. I do, however, bristle at your assertion that we have somehow been bought off. | ||
Craggy Member Username: Craggy Post Number: 343 Registered: 10-2003 |
One more thing, Gnome. I'd love to hear the story about the "phone call from a donor" that led to this. The segment was ready to go. Dan Stamper had agreed to come on the program and talk about the riverside park situation. Homeland Security was not. In the interest of getting the most accurate information, we wanted confirmation of what role, if any, Homeland security had in allowing Maroun to use the property and fence it off. Without that, it would have been Dan Stamper saying eveything was hunky dory. We wanted more than that for the program. So...the Detroit Today team (Zack, Amanda, and Myself) decided to hold off for now. Little did we know that the Metro Times would have the story the next day. I realize that you believe this to be an important story. So do we, but we also have other responsibilities during the program. Yes, we talk arts, culture, music, etc. I realize you have little use for it. But, others enjoy it, and we will continue to bring it to people, as well as political and business news. We actually try hard each day. Its obvious you listen, and we appreciate that. Again, feel free to call me if you have questions. I'm really not a bad guy. | ||
Gnome Member Username: Gnome Post Number: 1970 Registered: 08-2007 |
I didn't say you were a bad guy Craggy. Just a putz. It tough to disprove a negative Craiggy, but your silence is proving more than I can reveal. Not every workmate is a fan. If you think this is a one-off story where a single 7 minute segment is going to cover it, I'm afraid you are mistaken. Holding out for a global on-air solution is sophomoric in its optimism. You actually think you are going host some round-table kumbaya talk-fest? Pleeeze. I love the fact, you brissle at the your personal integrity being questioned, but on the subject of Matty stealing City property, you've been silent. Silent. We dropped the story in your lap, but you "...decided to hold off...". Instead of answering that question, you doth protest too much. You want to prove me wrong? Fine. Cover the story. Prove to the world I'm the putz. Until then the nom de putz is yours. Oh, btw, I'm a big fan of your music pieces, maybe you should concentrate on what you're good at and leave the bridge story to a professional news organization. Like the Metro Times. In the meantime, just keep quiet on the issue. Don't use your microphone to let your listening audience know what's going on. shhh. It's not time to speak out, it's too early, not enough people really care, or maybe you don't want to cover the story. Feel goaded yet? You should. Putzes always feel that way when cornered. It natural. They shrink right up. yep. Seen it happen. | ||
Curly98 Member Username: Curly98 Post Number: 49 Registered: 06-2007 |
Hey I'm a putz, but I made it. I even left to get the kids and came right back, oh wait. I guess that means I'm not really a putz, my bad. | ||
Alley Member Username: Alley Post Number: 688 Registered: 02-2008 |
Gnome, the softball game was a great idea and this issue needed to be brought to people's attention. That being said, in your past couple posts you're coming off as bitter because you didn't get something you want, it's not very nice. Craggy explained the situation from his standpoint--you don't have to believe it, but why the insulting and name calling? |
