  Sparkle Member Username: Sparkle Post Number: 194 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
This thread is for people (or person) who are voting for Kwame Kilpatrick. I dont see any threads regarding a possible re-election. I dont know any Kwame supporters personally, or anyone willing to admit they are one. But maybe I am wrong, maybe he has a plan for the city, are there any forumers who support him. PS. I had a piece of Carmel,pecan,chocolate cake last night, and had a nightmare about Kwame getting re-elected and giving me a hug after his speech, I just wanted to see if he had any supporters, and if I should really be as afraid of his re-election as I am. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 276 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
The man and his plan ... THE PLAN (Message edited by amelia on March 26, 2005) | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 826 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
It's not his plan. And interestingly, the part of the city where the government has had the least success imposing any artificial boosts to development(such as projects conceived of by the City, then fostered throuhg developer-selection, city finaces, etc.) is the are enjoying the most success. An argument for allowing growth to occur organically? But what about the other 138 1/2 square miles of the city? | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 277 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
Maybe we got one vote? "I look at what this place was like 3-1/2 years ago, and there is no way I would pay anywhere close to that [$200,000 - 400,000] said Phil Greer, a developer AND resident of the Waldorf Loft Condos on Cass. "But the change is remarkable. Dope boys don't own the corner anymore, and it's a lot safer now". (Message edited by amelia on March 26, 2005) | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 278 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
BD: Lean back, dude!! and understand how development projects are done in THIS city. Projects aren't conceived by the city. The city develops a master plan with community planning input [something that hasn't been done since 1992, apparently Freman didn't understand the role of government either]. Other city services such a public safety and infrastructure have to come together as well. Organic growth? are you talking about lettuce and tomatos or what? | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 827 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
Take off the rose coloured glasses and look at the projects that have succeeded and those that languished or failed. The projects that aren't conceived by the city but are undertaken by the businessmen and women who know the business get done. The others - BS that the city passes off as development - do not. Graimark? Herman Gardens? Book Cadillac? MCS? Coming soon - Far East Side? Uniroyal? | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 279 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
Bd: "What about the other parts of the city?" If the Archer bunch hadn't screwed up the HUD HOPE VI money the city could have something at Herman Gardens. But, "hope" is on the way. Didya' hear about the new Gardenview Estates? | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 280 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
GRAIMARK?!?? GRAIMARK?!? Whose shit was that??? | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 828 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
Apparently taking her cues from Fearless Leader, scrambling for someone else to blame for anything and everything is more important than actually focusing on the issues and finding solutions. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 281 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
BD: Don't need cues, Tonto! and you don't ever want to come face to face with my REAL leader! Step up again with something stoopid. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 829 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
Do tell, how did sleeping your way to a job that didn't involve asking someone if they wanted fries with that qualify you to have an opinion about anything other than hair styles and nail polishes, much less construction using something other than macaroni? | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 282 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
BD: YO MAMA??? roflmao - See where people go when they ain't for real?  | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2492 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.32.25 |
I'm still waiting to see the $17 billion Archer and Helmut claimed was invested in Detroit during Archer's two terms. | ||
Sparkle Member Username: Sparkle Post Number: 196 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
Uhmm its nice to see midtown coming along, but those are articles from the newspapers. What about Mack/Bewick area, blighted areas of Southwest side, downtown? I believe the resurgence of Midtown is fueled more so by Wayne State University, moreso than anything. Does Kwame have a campaign website? What is his plans for job creation, supporting and encouraging small businesses and maintaining business relationship with coporate businesses, improvement of city services improvement of services for children and adults maintaining and protecting city's historical sites and jewels such as belle isle plans for keeping young adults and attracting other young adults to the city Plans to deal with unforseen financial problems, that may be caused by an unstable or gloomy economy Both Hendricks and McPhail have mentioned outlines for many of the above statements, granted those outlines and plans are incomplete but they both seem to be looking for solutions. Kwame cannot continue to run the city in the same manner, if elected, what does he plan to do differently? He told us what the problems were in the state of the city address, he told about the things that are in the works, however many of his plans that were in the works failed, MCS and Cobo Hall conferences, and those are both at square one. Not dissing Kwame, these are honest concerns, if he or his reprensatives can recognize,accept and address these concerns then it maybe be helpful to him. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 283 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.90.217 |
Sparkle: Freman and Sharon have "mentioned outlines"? Why would the Mayor have a "campaign website"? He IS the mayor. Newspaper articles including third party document(s) with sources? You continue to babble. I responded with research, experience and facts which is more than you deserve. No more conversation. Game is over. (Message edited by amelia on March 26, 2005) | ||
Sparkle Member Username: Sparkle Post Number: 197 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
you responded with a couple of newspaper articles, all in one area of a city. You are right, Game is over for Kwame. Thank God, he only has one or 2 supporters | ||
Sparkle Member Username: Sparkle Post Number: 198 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
You, know what, I dont want this thread to get hostile. Its just some people bring out the worst in Sparkle. If there are any other Kilpatrick supporters who can address his plan, and why they feel comfortable voting for him, you are welcomed to do so. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 4165 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.42.177.192 |
I'm not a Kilpatrick supporter, but I think he's not getting the credit he deserves for his work in spearheading the Riverfront Conservancy. In a relatively short period of time, they organized, came up with an amazing plan and raised almost a hundred million dollars from private sources. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 284 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.108.185 |
Sparkle: Why don't you take responsiblity for your own "worst in Sparkle"? That's what grown-ups do instead of throwing rocks in a baseball stadium. You started this thread with ill intent, so you'll get what's comming to you. Grow up! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 200 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
I just came from Belle Isle Aquarium where Sharon McPhail met with the folks trying to save the aquarium - it was a very nice event - lots of hard working folks doing what they can to stop the closure of this beautiful place. And the dislike for KK was amazingly strong from people visiting the place. If this is a sign of what he is facing he is going to be in BIG trouble. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 285 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.108.185 |
iluvdetroit: So you posted this here because you are voting for Kilpatrick? We ALREADY KNOW WHO THAT GROUP OF DUCKS ARE VOTING FOR! duh! | ||
Sparkle Member Username: Sparkle Post Number: 200 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Thanks Itsjeff, for your input. Amelia, I thought you said Game Over? Ma'am why are you still here,if not to provide information about the candidate you support? You are voting for Kwame,but you can't say why, and you become angry when asked to. You think I am young, which is not an insult to me, I am. Better young and strong for the future is at my grasp, then existing as an old, bitter, stubborn person, for whom there is no future left. You cant tell me anything else besides those two things. Putting Ma'am back on ignore, since she nothing of value to say, no need to read. Back to the original intent of the thread, Kwame supporters- what is his plan and why are you voting for him. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 287 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.108.185 |
You betcha I'm mature, wise, educated and don't need to give you anymore than the spanking you got. Am I going anywhere? Don't think so. Will I stick to you like a bad perm in July? Yes! | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 289 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.108.185 |
Sparkle: Ya' got any of that pie left you ate last night? Finish it up, maybe when you wake up from your nightmares this time Kilpatrick will still be mayor, but don't count on any more hugs from him ... in your dreams!!! Maybe that's really her problem. [and she thinks I'm the bitter one] | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 155 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.173.147 |
Kwame Kilpatrick is a young, dynamic leader and happens to be a great Mayor. His appointments of Walt Watkins, George Jackson, and Henry Haygood were excellent and their results, spectacular. Chief Ella Bulla-Cummings, the nations first big-city female police chief, has also proved to be an excellent appointment as crime rates were at their lowest in 41 years. The Health Authority is off and running thanks to many individuals, including the Mayor's strong and persistent leadership. Neighborhood clean-ups, parks, and code enforcement are having a positive impact on Detroiters quality of life. Anyone see how many housing permits were pulled over the last fiscal year in comparison to previous administrations? I could go on but I'll stop for now because I'm sure some patos will want to take swipes this post. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 160 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.173.147 |
That's pretty class-less Quinn. I'm sure you're going to win a lot of pats-on-the-back for that post. Be careful, Sharon just might end up firing you for something this low. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 166 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.173.147 |
Birds of feather flock together - Patos. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 169 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.173.147 |
Bully-Cummings is a great police chief who demonstrates the ability to sympathize with the people of Detroit, then go out and arrest the bastards assualting children! | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 1052 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.59.244 |
Name calling is not permitted on this forum. If you have run out of ideas, don't resort to name calling. It only makes your POV petty. Your messages will be removed and if you persist you will be asked leave. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and understanding. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 1792 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.42.77.83 |
If " HIP HOP KILLpatricks wins the election for mayor. Then he problably through the biggest wild party in the Manoogian Mansion and every Detroiter is invited. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2531 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.173 |
Here is a serious question/inquiry and an observation. The only link to something in support of the mayor is a link to a Freep article. Then positive references to the mayor take the form of who he appointed or what he didn't do as Archer did , like Graimark. Which is a negative, no a positive on the mayor. Because KK didn't lie, cheat and steal like Archer to make a deal like Graimark does not make him a good mayor. The Pro-Helmut folks who posted here cannot point to specific items KK has done as mayor or as examples of his 'lack of leadership'. But even worse, the Pro-KK folks here can only provide negatives as to why someone should not vote for anyone but Kwame. Does Kwame even have a vision? I don't recall anything resembling one in any of his speaches. Has Kwame accomplished anything? Has he crafted a project from the design phase and planned for putting it into production anytime soon? All he points to is things involving the DDA or DEGC. Those two orgs spend more money than the city does to make their projects work. They have their own tax dollars, they get additional funding or financing from the city, then they still get many various tax incentives to pad their proposals.) | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2539 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 63.69.106.5 |
I am still waiting for positive things KK has done in his three years of office. KK never claimed he was a leader, which is to his credit. But all he does is push an item and assume his duties as mayor is complete. But he has created the largest deficit this city has ever seen. And more importantly our debt load is the highest its ever been. Both in dollar amounts and as a percentage of revenue. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 1846 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.234 |
Why I'm not voting for KILLpatrick. Here's my reasons. 1. He parties a lot at the Manoogian Mansion 2. He Fires people with no reason 3. He didn't fullfill his promises to the people of Detroit. 4. He keeps on cutting on city sevices 5. He used our city tax dollars to lease a red Lincoln Navigator. | ||
Bratt Member Username: Bratt Post Number: 60 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 12.172.207.3 |
The main reason I wouldn't vote for him is because of his lies. Now, every politician lies, we know that for a fact. But he lies about things that can be easily proven. For example, his statement about how he does not go club hopping....okay, everyone in the City of Detroit knows that he does this...why lie? Just come out and say, yes I am young and I like to go out now and again. When he was first approached about the Navigator, just say yes we leased it for the first family....who cares, many politicians do this. Don't deny it and keep denying it and then come back and say, well, okay yes we did. This reminds me of how children respond to situations. You can ask your child if they broke the glass window and they will deny it. You ask them again, and of course they will keep denying it. Then you tell them that the neighbor saw them do it, and that's when they will confess that they did..a child's mentality. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Amelia... COME ON! "THE PLAN" again? How many millions does he have and you guys keep posting that lame news paper story? | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
One thing that is known for a fact. . . as long as Kilpatrick remains as the Mayor, nothing will be coming into Detroit. Everything will either stop at 8 Mile or leave by way of 8 Mile. The Corporate entities do not trust him and prefer not to do business in or about Detroit. The development that is taking place is viewed as a slight gamble with somwhat of an assurance that Detroit voters will remove him by year 2006. Chiefly, development views land, space and property as dollar signs with determination of seeing brighter days. Believe me, the corporate Detroit area is not quiet about what is going on in Detroit. [Proposal E showed that] They are getting their licks in their own way. However, voters, people that are not in denial and business-thinkers know that Kilpatricks days are numbered. Happily, there are many that are riding this storm out for brighter days with improved leadership on the horizon. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 960 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Three more reasons why Freman Hendrix should be the next mayor of Detroit: Kwame’s fundraiser fun http://www.metrotimes.com/edit orial/story.asp?id=7594 Gold earring, tin ear http://www.metrotimes.com/edit orial/story.asp?id=7592 Motown booster about to go bust http://www.metrotimes.com/edit orial/story.asp?id=7579 | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 962 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Oops, missed one. Another reason ... Dream scheme Mayor’s budget a dangerous fantasy http://www.metrotimes.com/edit orial/story.asp?id=7593 “Nobody trusts him.” | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 493 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
BD: Nowhere in any of those articles was the name "Freman Hendrix" mentioned. Tell us why anybody should vote for him, don't let the press mention Kilpatrick more than Hendrix. Some of the Hendrix team members are lazy as hell .. just sit and wait for somebody else to write something about the Mayor and all you can do is reprint. GET IN THE GAME. (Message edited by Amelia on April 20, 2005) | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 494 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
I see minnie mouse stuck her head out again. Please don't get run over by the "ain't nobody crossing 8 mile" train. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 963 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
"Tell us why anybody should vote for him." Okay dokey. Go to www.fremanhendrix.com and read REAL plans for getting Detroit back on track. (A little wonk-ish in places, but better than Kilpatrick's blaming god for his failures or McPhail's promise of "coming soon - an idea!") | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 496 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
see lazy azz folk ... my voice mail could say "Go to FREMANHENDRIX.COM". | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 967 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Could. Might be more productive and a better use of the City's resources than the waste of time the Kilpatrick administration will prove to be for the next 8 months. (How many felonies on KK's to-do list? Gotta feather that nest for a soft landing). | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1325 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.188.117.8 |
Amelia, speaking of "lazy ass folk"... "We can't have a summer jobs program for teens because there is 14% unemployment" (but wait, Kilpatrick is now attempting to throw just such a program together, I wonder why?) ..."Other cities are doing this and that"..."It's suburbanites fault"..."It's White people's fault"..."Political opponents are out to get me"..."it's because I'm a young, Black, male, with an earring"..."it's lies, innuendo, speculation"..."wait 2 weeks"..."it's the state/national economy, Republicans, etc"..."I didn't realize this crap took so long"..."I inherited a (fill in the number) deficit"..."I am an imperfect servent" GET OUT OF THE CLUBS AND GET BACK TO WORK | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 507 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.120.128 |
MD: Can't you find anything Hendrix said that's quotable? You need to get on your job. The Kilpatrick summer program is for 300 youth and not nearly the unrealistic thing that Freman proposal [10,000 youth earning $10 hr]. That's a comparison of how realistic Kilpatrick's proposals are compared to Hendrix's "no clue" crap. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 223 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 66.208.247.197 |
Amelia you had the nerve to tell me to shut up earlier but someone puts a thread on her for people like you to explaing why Kwame is good and you place that old rag link "Da man and Da Plan" !?!?!?!!? WFL | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 512 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
shut up quinn | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 327 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Amelia - Be careful with Quinn (we accidentally met recently and he is a mean cookie)!!! Although I bet you can kick some good butt to hahaha. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 515 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
To quote your Queen when she got into a skirmish with the late Councilwoman Everett --- ooooooohhh!! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 328 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Hey now leave our "Queen" out of this - this is a battle between you and Quinn. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 517 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Likewise, and I can handle this without "King Kwame" as well. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 225 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Handle what? As far as I know there isn't an operation yet to improve brain size or brain power...think you're screwed Amelia.  | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 251 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.221.202 |
The band played as the ship went down. | ||
Helfy Member Username: Helfy Post Number: 12 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.134 |
Amelia? KIDS KOPS KLEAN? remember that? You must work for Bobbie Fergusen. | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
Here is something SPOKEN BY Hendrix as it relates to his plan on a Summer Youth Employment Initiative. His thoughts and plans are to approach private businesses to encourage them to hire our youth. He knows that HIS PLAN has to take in dependable considerations such as staffing size, ability to hire youth, budgeted allocations, etc. Hendrix's plan will attempt to PROGRESSIVELY REACH 10,000 youth hired at, say, up to $10.00 hourly for 3 months, 20 hours per week. That will be something he strongly plans to implement as he moves into the position as Mayor. Hendrix knows that you can not initiate a successful, well-thoughtout summer youth program THREE MONTHS BEFORE IT IS TO BEGIN [as KK attempted to do as he tried to mimic someone else's plan]. Hendrix knows that you do not hype the numbers [55,000] of registered youth to make yourself look good [AS YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY HAVE THE MANPOWER TO PROVIDE THAT MUCH INTAKE AND/OR MONITORING IN THREE MONTHS' TIME BECAUSE NUMBERS OF THE CLERICAL STAFF HAVE BEEN FIRED]. He has a plan and has revealed just Enough of it so that those with open minds can feel comfortable enough in knowing that he knows what needs to be done and how it should be done. As you may see, but some of you will not, I've killed two birds with one stone. . . Said what is thoughout, planned and probable by someone seeking to have the chance to prove it, versus, someone that HAS hastily pulled SOMETHING together by any SURREPTITIOUS means necessary. Got more good stuff, but gotta go! So some of you have a great time with this message. . . you all know what you are capable of! | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2644 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.87 |
Begging!
$24 Million, will Hendrix provide tax breaks to pay for this too? (Of course this is the summer of 2006, it does nothing for the youth this summer. But then if Hendrix wasn't going to pay for this plan with city taxes he could go to business this summer and implement his plan. WHY DOES Hendrix have to wait until he is mayor to ASK someone else to hire the youth? | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 352 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Because Hendirx has NO pull right now. Everyone who is anyone knows that McPhail WILL make the primary (she has the solid support)...but will it be KK or Hendrix? I still say KK - too much money not to make it and too many appointees that want to keep their jobs. Hendrix's network moved the burbs when archer did not run again and the 4000 voters in Rosedale Park are not enough to carry the city. Most Hendrix supporters are supporting him because he worked for Archer - how long can he carry that pail of water before it springs some leaks? Remember varying polls show somewhere between 25% and 50% of the population DO NOT KNOW HIM. | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 17 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.69.80 |
Why do some of you insist on these 'because' statements. Give credit where credit is due. And don't give me that crap about a couple of things that happened that YOU didn't like, and if any damaged may had resulted, it too was somewhat insignificant! Believe me people, Hendrix has support from more than his immediate neighborhood . I'll take this statement to the bank; that's just how sure I am of his victory! It does not take millions to succeed if you're determined to win. Again, Proposal E proved that! Get it...bunk the money, get the supporting bodies! [Unless someone happens to use money to pay, play and win!] Don't hate the person because of their abilities to open eyes, make citizens know that there is hope around the bend, that someone has so much love for their City to want to 'stick their neck out'; has the experience, determination and the vision to HEAR DETROITERS' CRIES, and there are so much more determining factors to quantify why Mr. Hendrix is the better one. I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THESE SELFISH PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THIS CITY. THEY ARE NOT NOTICING OR ARE IN DENIAL THAT THE CITY IS AILING, AND IF IT HAD THE ABILITY, IT WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE. THAT'S JUST HOW MISERABLE THE CITY FEELS: UNEMPLOYMENT, FLITH, NO CIVILITY, MISPLACED PRIORITIES, SELFISHNESS, HOPELESSNESS, HELPLESSNESS, ISOLATION, ETC. MIND YOU, SOME OF THESE CONCERNS ALWAYS EXISTED, BUT IT HAS BECOME MAGNIFIED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. IF NAYSAYERS WOULD JUST STOP AND LOOK AND LISTEN. THE CITY CRIES OUT! IT'S TRULY APPARENT WHEN THE CITY'S IMAGE AND REPUTATION IS CONSTANTLY CHALLENGED AND SCRUTINZIED DAY IN AND DAY OUT. PEOPLE ARE TALKING, GETTING THE WORD OUT AND THE GOOD OLE-FASHIONED WORD-OF-MOUTH MEDIUM IS TRAVELING! WE ARE SICK AND WE ARE TIRED AND WE ARE EMBARRASSED AND WE ARE SAD AND WE ARE PERPLEXED! FURTHER, AND UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH OUR EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE ENTITIES HAVE SURELY FAILED US! THERE IS NO,NO RELIEF IN SIGHT OR RESEMBLANCE OF SINCERE CONCERN TO BE FOUND FROM EITHER. Sorry for the shouting folks, but it helps me to hold back the tears! Good night, and if you have any lights, leave them on! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 357 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Hold back the tears???? OH you are as dramatic as a Shakespearan actor. I am sitting here holding back my vomit! BLEEEEECCCCCK oooops could not hold it. Hendrix - Is so bad that I will vote for KK before I vote for that hack. He has done nothing for this community since day one. He has hung out here as a tool of the McNamara machine for years! REALLY what has he done??? FEC? Can you name something? Other than work under Archer and chair the school board takeover he has done nothing for Detroit? He is so embedded in the political machine in this town that he can't even see beyond. If he becomes mayor (fat chance no one knows him and when the do they will run) he will ruin this town with corruption and greed! At least KK is scared now and will probably learn from his mistakes. | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.183.172 |
In case you did not know, it takes a lot of parts to make a whole. You are stuck in some type of "machine" mentality and can't move beyond your own selfish perception. This is a City we are talking about, and I sincerely think that we need to prioritize its issues, weakness and what should be put at the top of the "Things To Do Today" list. Let's move on and talk about Restoring this Great City. There are different reasons why we like somethings and not others. To make it simple, you may like a particular tv show because of the actors and I may like it because of the story line. We're all have our own idiosyncrasies and perceptions. However, one thing I know we can agree on is that a Mayor is only as good as how well he leads his city and fulfils the responsibilities of making sure the citizens receives the services as set forth by its charter. Sure, the other situations and circumstances that come into play are there, but hell, that's not why you vote for a leader, you are looking at the qualities of a leader to LEAD. All other things are SECONDARY. . . and if left unchecked, can become significant problems. But we must not lose sight of why we chose a Mayor . . . CITY SERVICES and PROVIDING THEM EFFICIENTLY. This is why we chose our leaders to lead, not for game playing, not for whishy-washy, or for not well-thoughtout planning. A City is only as good as its leader. I've watched Mr. Hendrix for many years. He's thorough, he's a doer, he's no nonsense, he faces issues, he's a pioneer, he doesn't have a problem challenging and he knows that in order to be affective, those folks that you lead, must be included in your plan. They must be thought about and, if at all possible, be at your table. From what I've learned in life, the premise of a Mayor is to operate the City government. The first and foremost responsibility is dependable service for its citizens! [Excuse me, but isn't that not the main problem that we are facing today and the reason why most of this website centers around Detroit and its issues] To this writer and many, many, many others, everything else is SECONDARY! It becomes irritating to read of how others just brush off or excuse what we truly need for this City. It also becomes irritating to read the thoughts of mammy-made, single-issue, single-focused, self-appointed political analyst with this 'political machine' mentality. There are an array of foreseen responsibilities that must be dealt with, and Mr. Hendrix knows what they are, and plans to maintain and sustain this Great City of Detroit. I've seen him in action from that perspective. Does he know what the citizens and the City need, yes, reliable, dependable City services. Does he know what his primary responsibility is, yes, to make sure the citizens and the City are cared for. Does he know how to delegate to those to do his deeds, yes, he knows that to get the job done you most surround yourself with competent,reliable and knowledgeable people whose job is to help you with your primary responsibilities [City services] Bunk the 'machine' and allow Mr. Hendrix to put it where it belongs. . . at the bottom of the list of "Things To Do Today." Let us concentrate on the primary objective - Restoring pride to the people and to it's Services! By the way, each day, more and more citizens are becoming aware of Mr. Hendrix. They are told of the plans he has to sustain City Government and to restore the Pride back to its Citizens. He's becoming a Mindset, and some of us know the old adage that, "when you get your head together, your a_ _ will surely will follow." Just watch'em! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 362 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
FEC- Glad to see you have recovered from your tears enough to type this. You remind me of a lady I know who is a BIG Freman suppoter Michelle F. She talks about him all the time - like you do - but her real plan is get her husband a job as his CFO. What is your plan? Are you trying to be his PR person? There is nothing that he can do to convince me to look at him AGAIN. I have been to several meetings - in fact even donated money at an event he had in Birmingham back in the early fall late summer. Initially I found him to be interesting - then I realized that he said the same thing over and over again in that BORING monotone voice. He also has a weak handshakek, which bothers me. Then the more I got to know about him the more mad I was. - School Board Reform Chairman - HE gleefully took charge of this committee to look good to the Engler administration. He was hoping for some big appointment from a Repub controlled state. He may be a Dem but he would sell his soul to the highest bidder. HE was the person who recommended Burnley, HE helped take away the right of American citizens to vote for their own school board. HE is not a person to admire. - He has been involved in the CORRUPT political machine that has been running Detroit into the ground for 30 years. - HE is nothing but an empty suit. There is no mind there. He had his chance to do something for Detroit but he chose a path of corruption and I am sure the campaign will show all those folks who don't know this person as nothing but an empty suit who cares for nothing but himself. | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 21 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 4.165.132.98 |
Since you alleged to a motive as to why I'm backing Mr. Hendrix, I have a job. In fact, I'm looking forward to gaining control over my life by retiring in a couple of years! But enough about me. My plan is to get the person elected that I have confidence in; someone I feel could provide the much needed leadership that this City needs to heal itself. Secondly, I guess you have your reasons to feel the way you do about Mr. Hendrix. Some of your reasonings are weak and trite; some of your accusations are not relevent and surely not true. But, you have your idiosyncrasies and your personal beliefs. But I'm puzzled. You stated that you were on board with him in the beginning. The time when his so-called questionable character was already formed. Right now, I question you. But, "Ithink"IloveDetroit, my confidence in his abilities is not wavering. I have no reason to doubt his abilities as a Mayor for the city. He has my vote, and the vote of others that feel he is the best man for the best job. You say some things and others say something else. I'll believe what I want and more importantly, what is relative to me as an independent thinker. Lastly, your tone reflects that you have a lot of suppressed anger. So chill, and know that some things are not as bad as YOU may think! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 368 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
"Suppresse anger"..... looks like you got an A in Psych 101 FEC. The polls show that Hendrix is somewhere between 25% and 50% of people who have no clue as to he is. EPCI MRA (his poll conducted by his friends) showed that 25% did not know his name with another 11% not sure about him as a person. The Channel 4 poll this past week showed 50% (which I think is hight but who knows)...either way people don't know him. When they do know him they will question why? I was a luke warm supporter at first. Went to a couple of house parties that I was invited to. I was never really impresses but I was thinking ABK. After I went to a McPhail rally (actually her annoucement for mayor) I was really shocked. she had the ability to make me feel really proud to be a Detroiter. She is smart, sharp and knows what needs to be done. I have always liked her and thought she was good...but I have to admit the media's portrayal of her left me questioning. After meeting her and attending numerous sessions I have come to completely admire her and Benny Napoleon. IF you have never listened to them you should. YOU (FEC) need to be an informed voter.AND not just vote for Hendrix because he worked for Archer. AND you may think I am joking...I worked to invite folks to a McPhail event. For those who were not interested or declared their support for Hendrix I would ask why and 90% said "because he worked for Archer"...isn't that sad. NO one knows anything about him...he can't ride on that Archer coat tail for too long. HE has a huge gap of 25-50% that is going to be filled by another challenger. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1006 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
"The polls show that Hendrix is somewhere between 25% and 50% of people who have no clue as to he is." you keep saying this but that alone doesn't make it true. If you can't back your crap up, drop the lies already. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1342 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
"Ilovedetroit" on the other hand you have to acknowledge that almost everyone knows McPhail (less than 10% don't recognize her) yet various polls show her with almost 50% negative rating. Name recognition absolutely kills her. She would be better off if people didn't recognize her and simply picked her because they want the current mayor out of office. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2654 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.32.240 |
BD and MD at it again, back to back. But with a supposedly 50% negativity rating (a laughable poll) the other candidates do even with her or worse. Why is it that BD's candidate can't get out of the box with his numbers that supposedly look so good? Why is it that MD's candidate fails to pull ahead of anyone. Their candidate always slips in his own polls when polled against each possible component. Why has their candidates ex boss refused to endorse or support him? Archer was scared out of office. It doesn't look like Archer's former employee can make it alone without a powerful boss to open doors and force others to take notice. I wonder if that's why his title as deputy was so important at the time as opposed to chief of staff. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 786 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.212.36.76 |
Brian, what will you do with yourself if Sharon McPhail loses in August or November? How will you be able to face all of us if she doesn't win? Will you make claims that Hendrix and Kilpatrick conspired to keep McPhail's voters away from the polls? Will you claim the weather was the cause of low voter turnout on the part of McPhail supporters? What fantastical story will you come up with to explain away McPhail's defeat? | ||
Fec Member Username: Fec Post Number: 25 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
Mr. Hendrix, himself, realizes that surveys are merely numbers. And depending on how the wind blows, changes with that wind. [HE'S NOT SMUG] There is confidence like no other that Mr. Hendrix will be a force to reckon with, and that same force will see it come to fruition. Those persons will stand up for him and back him because of the strong belief that he can make this City live and operate again. [However, the transition won't be as easy or as comfortable as one would hope!] And believe me, those will be the same persons to ensure that he stays the course! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 371 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
McPhail has a 50% negative rating. That number may or may not be right - regardless I think McPhail knows that she has work to do to convince voters. She has to at least define herself as a credible candidate to at least 5-10% more people in Detroit. That is not an impossible task (remember Bush had less than 40% approval at one time and he ended up winning) for her to do. She has a really solid base of 40 some % of voters (polls vary). If she can capture another 10% she will win. I really feel that KK will make it to the primary with McPhail. Call me crazy but he has so much money that he will be in the neighborhoods throwing parties etc for folks especially in those areas that he has done well in the past in. With regards to people not knowing who Hendrix is. That numbers range of 25% to 50% is not my numbers (not lying Bin) those are the polling results. Anyone who is in politics in this city knows that EPIC MRA ran the last poll - that was a Hendrix poll commisioned by his buddies at channel 7. That poll was commisioned at McPhails highest negative press time (post Sambo) and KK has continued negative press. Of course the poll had Hendrix going up. NO one has said anything bad about him yet. BUT in that poll 25% of folks did not know him and another 11% were not decided. The channel 4 poll from last weeks showed 50% not knowing him (which I think is high)...my point is that when people find out who he really is esp. the first Reform School Board Chairman he will more than likely plummet in the ratings. Remember this town voted 70% to take back the school board. His role in that takeover was not popular and he was so rough with tossing people out of meetings that that the city even got sued over one case and LOST! KK is going to go after Hendrix - he wants him out. He is the weaker of the three candidates with the public. That is why KK and McPhail will make it to the primary. Then KK is going to pull out all stops to kill her off - calling her crazy and a racist etc.. But she is tough, smart and a fighter. The fall should be an interesting race! | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1016 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
"Anyone who is in politics in this city knows that EPIC MRA ran the last poll - that was a Hendrix poll commisioned by his buddies at channel 7." Really? And you buying into another frequent poster's "super-duper conspiracy theory"? "The channel 4 poll from last weeks" The poll you can't find, and no one else saw, heard or heard about? "Call me crazy" Okay. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 6845 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226 |
"Remember this town voted 70% to take back the school board. His role in that takeover was not popular and he was so rough with tossing people out of meetings that that the city even got sued over one case and LOST!" What a weak argument. Considering Kwame supported the take over PRIOR to becoming mayor, and he still won the position. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 374 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Bin - I myself did not see the poll but I have heard from plenty of people - including my boss (not a Detroit resident) who said "congrats to your candidate for leading in the polls - I saw it on the news last night". I have tried to find it to but cannot locate it. So enough people have talked about it...just don't know where it is. Don't worry Bin it still showed a statistical dead heat amongst all candidates - Hnedrix trailing by a couple of points. It is only a poll and they really don't mean much this early in the game. It just gives folks like us something to get excited about for a minute and get on here to squawk about. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1345 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
"Ilovedetroit" you are being dishonest again. 1. There aren't any polls showing McPhail with 40% support. 2. Hendrix rated as unknown has varied in polls between 25% to nearly 40%, not 50% as you stated. Even you have to acknowledge that number is shrinking by the day. 3. The WDIV poll did not make any of the claims that you are "reporting" on this forum. McPhail was certainly not leading in their poll. They reported a virtual three-way tie, however, they also (once again) reported high negative ratings for McPhail (as well as Kilpatrick). 4. Please "back up" your claims about EPIC/MRA. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 380 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Metro - Look up the EPIC MRA poll yourself. I even said that I did not believe the 50% number on Hendrix but I am glad you acknowledged 25-40% of folks don't know him. And McPhail did lead in the poll for WDIV and I did say that it is still a 3 way race above... you really are not saying anything new and I agree with you on most everything. But McPhail is running 40% with Napoleon factored in. AGAIN as I have said before none of this matters numbers change. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2659 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.32.150 |
What??? Almost half of the poll respondants don't know who the front runner in the poll is? Huh? MD, wrote Hendrix rated as unknown has varied in polls between 25% to nearly 40% So out of 100%, 40% don't know a candidate, but out of the other 60% this unknown candidate is leading? So does that mean there is a 40% undecided or did those 40% indicate support for someone not identified in the poll! Were all candidates placed in the same poll? | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 384 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Brian - When you put it that way it is very interesting....the "front runner" is not known by 25-40% (as acknowledged by one of his obvious campaign leaders - he knows too much to be a plan old volunteer)... how can Hendrix possbily make it past the primary. When people find out who he really is - they will run away so fast they will leave skid marks. Like I said a month ago after a McPhail event at Trinity Church in Woodbridge all the kitchen workers had no clue who Hendirx was - when I said he worked for Archer there was a brief moment of uhhh ok...then when I said the first reform school board chairman who helped to take away your right to vote...they ALL went "OH NO WAY. WHAT WAS HIS NAME AGAIN?" No matter how you slice trouble for the Hendrix camp. But then again I keep saying it is between KK and McPhail in the primary. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1347 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Quite simply the likes of Brian, Quinn, and "Ilovedetroit" are not the best examples of campaign supporters/volunteers. Their actions speak for themselves. "Ilovedetroit's" latest blatant lies about the WDIV poll only further demonstrates his/her lack of credibility. As I said before, over 90% recognized yet nearly 50% unfavorable (along with lack of money) does not bode well for the McPhail campaign. Combine that with her association to City Council as well as multiple failed runs for political office are a deadly combination for McPhail. The public views her and Kilpatrick with equal distaste and virtually as one in the same (part of the current problems). | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2661 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.32.150 |
That would mean you have a slam dunk then MD? Then what are doing here? Then we could go back to your poll when you say that 40% of the 60% (of poll respondants) who know your candidate would vote for him in August. Which calculates back down to 24% would support your candidate. From your numbers above, 45% would support my candidate. So it looks like you are claiming a loss by 2 to 1. You are probably trying to recover from posting that your candidate is, "rated as unknown has varied in polls between 25% to nearly 40%" | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1348 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Furthermore...Brian/"Ilovedetr oit", you're either being dishonest once again, or you lack basic comprehension skills, or both. The undecideds as well as those that do not recognize Hendrix are roughly the same percentages. That means each candidate has the potential to capture those votes. By the way, no need for your prefab story that was cooked up at McPhail campaign headquarters. You and Quinn told the same story about the church kitchen. Thanks. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 390 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Metro - You must lead a REALLY boring life. You remember everything everyone says! Actually that night when Quinn and I told the same story is when we were outed to each other (kind of funny). Metro- You are the one that is not genuine...you alway try to credit yourself by discrediting others. Are you cabbage ear guy? And you know who I mean! | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1352 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
"Ilovedetroit" - you must lead a REALLY boring life. You make up stories about other candidates to support your candidate. It's not that hard to remember the incredibly false claims that you have made on here. Furthermore, you aren't very bright because your false claims were easily exposed while you can't even keep your story straight in the process. Brian, as you have clearly demonstrated time and time again, you lack basic comprehension skills as well as common sense, in addition to a severe lack of honesty. It's simply amazing that you think that the entire undecided portion of voters would go towards one candidate (your own, McPhail). Remember, over 90% of voters know who she is, and nearly 50% have a negative opinion of her. Furthermore, you somehow think that the portion of voters that do not know Hendrix will remain the same by election day. Simply amazing. Again, remember the portion of voters that do not know Hendrix is roughly equal to the undecideds. Those votes are fair game to all the candidates. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2666 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.102 |
MD, you said,
which is so many that don't know your candidate that he will need alot of money in order to make himself known and THEN capture that vote. Double duty for a candidate. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1028 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
"which is so many that don't know your candidate that he will need alot of money in order to make himself known and THEN capture that vote. Double duty for a candidate." No, merely getting the word out and introducing the voters to Freman Hendrix is what the campaign is about. Unlike McFail, who must try to convince the voters who know her that she's not the manipulative lying racist that she has appeared to be over the last 4 years. Double duty? Mission Impossible. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 416 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Bin - Manipulative lying racist. Please look at the lind below is this a woman with her family who looks like a racist? A woman with a child like this - does not like whites? Come on Bin that is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Hendrix and KK can't get anything else on McPhail so they call her a racist. Grow up you ass! http://www.sharonandbenny.com/ about/mcphail.htm | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1035 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
What's a racist look like? From Joe Harris: "some council members consistently obscure, delay and/or impede progress for political expediency. Some are more interested in radical, divisive, racist concepts, such as African Town, a race-based community, which would not only be detrimental to both the image of the City and the direction in which this City needs to proceed, it is contrary to the desires of most African Americans. The creation of a ghetto is an anathema that represents a return to what many African Americans have attempted to escape. It sends a message to outsiders, both potential residents and businesses, that this is a government that supports racism ... not all small businesses, not all Detroit-based businesses, not all residents, not all poor people, but only members of a particular ethnic group. Moreover, the book (PowerNomics), from which the concept emanated, is fraught with fallacious, impractical ideas. The concept is not only undesirable, it is unworkable. It is not based on sound economic theory, or on some concept that has been successfully practiced elsewhere. It is purely conjectural. Those who blindly follow the author’s lead not only do not understand the socioeconomic impracticalities of the plan if implemented, but moreover, do not understand the ramifications of such a government-sponsored plan. There is no place in this world for such a racist-based philosophy, regardless of the race that prescribes it. The only ones that can benefit from this book are the author and the publisher. While the City should be welcoming all people of all ethnic groups to live and establish businesses in the City, some council members disdain members of ethnic groups that conduct business in the City. Most are not competing with African American businesses, but rather are providing goods or services that otherwise would be unavailable in those communities, while maintaining their property and acting as good neighbors and good corporate citizens. Nevertheless, they are chastised as a group by some council members, effectively impairing opportunities for a rebirth of this once great city." Who do you think he was talking about? Yep, the champion of the most racist and bigoted waste of tax dollars imaginable, your beloved mcfail. Ms Sambo-awarding hater, Sharon. "Sharon McPhail is a liar. She is also apparently a racist. And not too bright." http://www.detnews.com/2005/ed itorial/0503/10/A10-112821.htm Now, with regard to your frequent personal attacks on me and other posters, please note: From the DetroitYes Conditions for Participation: "This forum is for polite, thoughtful discussion and inquiries only. Entries that are abusive, off subject, silly, containing personal attacks, threats, libels, illegal activities, or hate group messages will be removed as quickly as possible." "Absolutely no name calling will be allowed, directly or indirectly." "Participants are kindly requested to address the entire forum in their posts and to only address other participants by their forum names. Please always address the forum in a polite manner." Whatever happened to your new leaf, your professed vow to embrace civility? Were you lying then or are you lying now? Simple. It's both. You are as inconsistent, untrustworthy and explosively volitile as your candidate. No wonder you like her so much, seeing so much of yourself in her. Your narcissism borders on pathological. Get some help. And good luck. But at least clean up your act. | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 90 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 68.60.74.3 |
vintage mcphail (http://www.freep.com/news/locw ay/award9e_20050309.htm): McPhail's first run for mayor in 1993 also was punctuated by comments that painted eventual winner Archer as a pawn of white suburbanites. Rev. Charles Adams, pastor of the Hartford Memorial Baptist Church, apologized after an attack on Archer at a McPhail prayer breakfast in 1993. Adams said suburbanites "want a mayor to shuffle when he's not going anywhere, scratch when he's not itching and grin when he's not tickled." Even after Adams retracted the remarks, McPhail continued to use the derogatory image during the campaign. ****************************** ******************* ANOTHER barrier to "regional cooperation" - sharon mcphail. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 421 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Thecarl...this is such OLD news get a better subscription to a paper. If you are stupid enough to believe what you read in the paper then vote for Hendrix or Kilpatrick. Or better yet get off your ass and go to a McPhail event and ask her the truth. ItsJeff - was upset over the Sambo awards and I told him to go see McPhail at an event and confront her. GUESS WHAT! He did and he was very pleasantly surprised at the REAL Sharon McPhail...he even wrote the campaign a check and was turned into a supporter. So quit beleiving the shit in the paper. Check out the web site for events. There is one tonight at True Rock Church 17500 Chandler Park Drive just east of Cadieux at 7:00 PM | ||
65memories Member Username: 65memories Post Number: 164 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.250.43.42 |
Interesting: http://kwamemustgo.com/index2. html | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 544 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 206.148.224.169 |
Well, just looks like more of the Furman family tactics. Remember Mark? Real clever website, but wasting time with old news. We have Steve Wilson for the new stuff. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1366 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Amelia, more attempts at distractions by the Kilpatrick Administration/Campaign. Now the "Mark Furman card". What next, the "J. Edgar Hoover name-drop"? How about a good old fashioned Senator McCarthy reference, for old times sake? Guess what, "old news" doesn't make wrong turn into right...doesn't make stolen money return to the bank rolls...doesn't make lawsuits go away...and on and on. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 551 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 206.148.224.149 |
Metroboy: You're the one being distracted - in a big way! You'd better go pick up some petitions and head down to the beauty shops this morning! Freman needs more than your worn out snipes at me, his operatives are just plain lazy. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1370 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.188.117.8 |
See Amelia's back-peddling attempt at saving face under the thread "Candidate Having Trouble getting on the ballot". | ||
Damon Member Username: Damon Post Number: 420 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 172.130.230.235 |
Kwame, you are the weakest link. Goodbye! | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1053 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
At least Kwame will get this guys vote: (From Sunday's Detroit News) Trial in alleged pistol whipping rescheduled Bobby Ferguson, owner of Ferguson Enterprises and a longtime friend of Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, has had his Wayne County Circuit Court trial on assault and weapons charges rescheduled for Aug. 15. The trial was to start in April, but the date was postponed after Ferguson's lawyer withdrew. Ferguson remains free on a $50,000 cash bond. His bond was increased after Ferguson, before a preliminary examination, allegedly threatened the man he is accused of assaulting, according to court records. Ferguson is accused of pistol whipping one of his employees after the worker allegedly called Ferguson's wife on the phone. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2688 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.71 |
If Ferguson received any contracts under Archer, it might spell trouble for your candidate. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1373 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.12.116.195 |
Brian, if city council approved any contracts for Ferguson (or any other shady characters), it might spell trouble for your candidate...oh wait, that already happend. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 1055 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.117.31 |
Brian - Every single contract between the City and Ferguson was approved by Sharon McPhail. Does this spell trouble for your candidate? | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 3336 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.43.31.87 |
Unlikely, Brian. Your biased and erroneous claim doesn't fit here. When was Freman brought up? Or are you just continuing your vendetta? Bobby Ferguson jumped into the game when his good buddy Kwame moved into the Manoogian. Here's some morsels on how Bobby cashed in. http://www.detnews.com/2005/me tro/0503/10/A01-112311.htm "Since Kilpatrick became mayor, friend and contractor Bobby Ferguson has been appointed to the Downtown Development Authority board that oversees city construction contracts -- some of which been awarded to his company, Ferguson Enterprises. Though Ferguson did not make a direct contribution in 2004, employees of his company gave $10,200 to the Kwame M. Kilpatrick for Mayor campaign. While on the authority's board, Ferguson abstained from voting several times because the agency was approving contracts involving his company. In February 2004, the authority agreed to pay Ferguson Enterprises Inc. $700,000 for demolition-related work on the Book Cadillac after the company that was to pay him, Historic Hospitality Inc., withdrew." The same picture from above appears in a 2002 article: http://www.detnews.com/2002/me tro/0212/31/c01-48705.htm And it all started from the beginning. From Kwame's inauguration speech: "Our transition team worked very diligently, led by Bobby Ferguson and Frank Torre in this area, to develop a comprehensive cleanup for the city of Detroit that will begin knocking down dangerous buildings focused around Detroit Public Schools on February 1." http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/ma yor/speeches/speeches_inaug.ht m | ||
Sparkle Member Username: Sparkle Post Number: 455 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 198.109.44.2 |
Its been a month, I still havent read a convincing reason why I would vote for Kwame. The media has him by the neck, and he stays there silent, no response. Well it will all be over come november or will it? | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 130 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
Here is a reason. KK has great tastes in restaurants. | ||
Wcpo_intern Member Username: Wcpo_intern Post Number: 1540 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 68.60.140.71 |
Its been a month and I think the funniest post, for the rawest truthfulness, should go to Bratt for: "This reminds me of how children respond to situations. You can ask your child if they broke the glass window and they will deny it. You ask them again, and of course they will keep denying it. Then you tell them that the neighbor saw them do it, and that's when they will confess that they did..a child's mentality." | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2709 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.84.231 |
Now I mention a possibility and folks get angry. Md and BD now try to shift the blame to CC and even lie in the process. BUT their candidate was the one who started the Fergusson rumpors and leaked his stuff to the press. If he knew about any CC members who approved it he should have mentioend it then. BUT he did know that Sheila supported those contracts. BUT sheila also employed his daughter. Too many tangled Webs for your candidate BD. Produce the votes, lets see the record. Who did those contracts under Archer? That stuff will hurt both Kwame and the deputy. AND not all contracts came before the CC under Kwame or even under Archer. Oops! | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1403 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Tangled webs indeed. McPhail and her supporters on CC (Mahaffey, Collins, and Watson). No wonder things slip by them left and right. |
