  Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 1477 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41 |
To all the McPhail supporters... As Ms. Gaddis had a call out to explore and copare both Mr. Hendrix's poll and Ms. McPhail's poll. Ms. McPhial's camp chose not to render her poll for discussion. Can we get a better understanding from those close to her campaign as to why? | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 242 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
I can tell you exactly why. Mildred Gaddis works for Freman Hendrix and she is an obvious supporter. Why should Sharon release her poll results to the "other side"...the poll results show where she needs to improve and what target groups the campaign needs to hit. If that information was given to KK and Freman they would know where she is vulnerable. Personally I feel that Sharon McPhail should just stay away from Mildred Gaddis, she is not a fair and objective reporter in this campaign. I would not expect KK or Sharon to ask for each other's polling results. Zogby (which was the polling company) is a reputable international company and there is no reason to call their abilities into question. And we all know that polling results change overtime - I expect all candidates to go up and down over time (especially in the early part of the election cycle). Does this make sense to you? Thanks | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2524 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.207 |
I don't claim to be close to any of the candidates. But from what I heard this morning, Helmut's poll was severly slanted and would not provide accurate results. Its interesting that Helmut would allow MG to air questions from his poll unless he thought it would not hurt. Then the person from WSU who analyzed the poll was not qualified to do poll analysis. Something revealed this morning for all to hear. Typical question which MG and her host, the PR person for Helmuts campaign committee, do you find KK to be honest or trustworthy? This is not a question to gauge support for your candidate but a question designed to engage in sneak attacks against your opponent. Additionally, MG is quickly losing credibility amongts her audience. The fact that she no longer lives in Detroit has some calling her a Detroit basher akin to L.Brooks Patterson. The way she attacked Sharon McPhail, ambushed her during an interview and then allowed Nolan Finley who had never been on MG's show before and who MG has called a racist in the past on her show to attach Sharon McPhail has put MG into a corner where she is begining to lose listeners. WCHB already had low low ratings and her partisan tirades are not helping. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2525 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.207 |
Then recall that Helmut is quoted in the DetNews and saying that his own poll results cannot be trusted. | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 1478 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41 |
Correct Brian, Metzger is not a political scientist and is not as focused as a demographer. His extrapolations are obtuse and draws causal relationships where there are none. I think it was a good move on her part. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 854 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Brian ignorantly proclaims: "Then the person from WSU who analyzed the poll was not qualified to do poll analysis." Kurt Metzger is research director of the Center for Urban Studies and director of the Michigan Metropolitan Information Center (MIMIC) at Wayne State. He came to Wayne State University's Center for Urban Studies in May 1990, as a senior research analyst with MIMIC. He became director of MIMIC in October 1993 and research director in 2001. Prior to coming to Wayne State University, Kurt spent 15 years with the U.S. Census Bureau in the Detroit Regional Office. During the 1980s, Kurt organized and directed the data services program in the three-state census region. Kurt's demographic research interests dovetail well with the essence of MIMIC's charge - namely, conducting a variety of research, education and service programs designed to improve the understanding of population and housing patters in Detroit and urban America. Kurt brings his demographic expertise to a number of local organizations, including United Way/Community Services, the Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce and the Southeast Michigan Census Council. In addition, he is regularly sought out by local media and is asked by a variety of organizations throughout the region to speak on demographic trends. Demographically, Kurt represents the beginning of the baby-boom generation and lives in Pleasant Ridge, Michigan, with his wife (first and only), daughter (His son is married and lives in Chicago), a cat, 2 coupes and a new convertible. Okay, so he's a cat-person. But he has a convertible. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2526 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.237 |
Data Entry of a Census form and analysing political poll results are completely different. Otherwise the census would be able to predict the president, the dominant political party, the moral issues as well as the upcoming pattern of imigration for the coming decade. Instead the census gives you a snapshot of where you are and data on where you have been. Polls predict the future. The Census characterizes the past. Why did Helmut ask his polling sample if they thought Kwame was dishonest? How is that going to help Helmut run for office? That does not provide an automatic plus for Helmut. The same people might also think him dishonest. | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2527 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.237 |
I'll bet neither Mildred or Helmut puts the poll on their websites for all to see despite the rhetoric of being open about their polls. | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 2850 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
Damn, I really hate fact that I must agree with BD on this .... What Metzger laid out was real ... whether you wish to believe it or not. Plus his credentials are real too. Politics are politics .... surprisingly, I actually expected Sharon to release her poll, not an in-house prepared summary; especially since it's so early in the contest and all the foik are spewing propaganda (depending to which station/channel you're tuned in to)!! Mildred and Helmut's lackey (y'all know ... the dude that was arrested in a City car twice [while working for Archer] for soliciting prostitutes) is gonna play that to the max on the air. Kinda funny why he's back on that show, now!! Go figure ..... Black-atcha ..... watching real schitt unfold | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 1479 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.195 |
More aptly put, Metzger's analysis often skirts stuff that should be mentioned: Like Birth and Death rates. A demographers number one rule is that these impact population more than migration. But no mention of that in the post discussion relating to Detroit's trends...he should have gave a puck who lives and dies..... Credentials, smedentials. He's got em, but to what end? Any major acclaimed published work? I'm with Brian on this one. Interesting talk, but its James brown-ish - "talkin loud sayin nothin!" | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 248 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Does anyone other than Fremanites really care about what Mildred Gaddis has to say these days? Her show use to be decent but all she talks about is Freman, Freman, Freman. I use to live in a socialist country and the propaganda wasn't as bad as her show. Most folks I know that watch it (which aren't many) have tuned out as they are tired of her...lving in Southfield but bitching about Detroit. She says that KK drove her out and she needed protection! Bullshit I say - she just wanted to live in the burb. She has no credibility with me...even if she was not Ms Freman I still would be tired of her. She gave up on the city so why do we listen to her! Like KK would really want her raggedy big butt! | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 180 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.173.147 |
The broadcast journalist lost her integrity and credibility a long time ago. | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 2860 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.252.70.198 |
The dudes' credentials speak for themselves and his credibilty. All he did on the show was present what the pollsters stated; of which I can understand why Fre dispatched the damn thing with haste. I wouldn't have trusted the numbers cited either ..... even kurt had to question the schitt. Greg put that schitt out ..... getting paid as a PR man for Hendrix. Mayhaps that is why he's back on the MG show, clowning as usual. He knows a lost cause when he sees one. Go figure ..... betcha Hendrix uses a different polling company next time. (lol) Black-atcha ..... | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 252 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Ras- Did you see the web site for the polling company that Freman used? It had not been updated in 2 years and all their "customer" were in California in fact they are based in Oakland, CA. Where did he find this small insignificant company? Would they do it for a few bucks - because that is ALL he could afford after buying his new caddy? | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 856 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Mildred Gaddis lives in Southfield? | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 858 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
In response to to ild's question: "Does anyone other than Fremanites really care labout what Mildred Gaddis has to say these days?" From anither thread: "Rev. Wendell Anthony announced that Ms. Mildred Gaddis will be honored for her lifetime achievements toward the service of our community. She will be the recipeint of the NACCP Freedom and Justice Award." Or, in a word, yes. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 254 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
I am not so sure that Rev Wendell Anthony is all that popular with most Detroiters. I would like to hear from african americans or members of the NAACP on this chat room what they think of him. Most of my aa friends don't think that much of him but I don't feel like it is is my place to respond as I am not a member of the NAACP. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 255 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Bin - And yes Mildred lives in the burbs - if I remember correctly it is Southfield - unless someone wants to correct me. She stated on her show one day that she "had to move there due to threats she was receiving and she blamed KK for it." | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 1483 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41 |
Most detroiters are happy he's around. Better question: why arent you a member of the NACCP? There's a chapter in A-square.... | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 256 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
That is a good question Zulu ... I should be. I usually put most of my resouces towards ACLU. | ||
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit Post Number: 859 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
From http://www.mildredgaddis.com/M GInfo1.htm: "Mildred resides in Detroit, Michigan, with her daughter Khia." | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 178 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Well that is interesting. I've heard her say twice to a caller friend of mine that she lives in Southfield. Within the past 3 months too, since I've only been listening to her for that long. Maybe mildredgaddis.com is not updated? | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 341 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
When is Rev.Anthony giving her this award? She may be "hiding out" in Southfield, but check the tax record for her ghetto house! | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 258 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Bin - Her web site is outdated. Trust me (at least on this) she does not live in Detroit. She has even acknowledged this on her show. I think we should have Call em Out get ahold of Mildred...I think it is awfully bold of her to be running her mouth on Freman Freman (maybe she loves him or more likely he has promised her chief of staff job) and Detroit Detroit when she does not even live here. That is not even credible to me. Amelia - The KK folks surely don't care for her - maybe the McPhailites and KKites should unite against Mildred. Urge everyone to turn the dial on the radio to something less obnoxious! | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 348 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
Lord knows we have tried! If you think of something else, let me know because that is one thing we can agree on. Regardless of who we support, this woman is poison in Detroit's water system and a polutent in our "air". No, McPhail shouldn't give her a poll or any damn thing else. (Message edited by Amelia on April 01, 2005) | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2529 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.37.83.107 |
WCHB's ratings are so low that Mildred Gaddis show doesn't even register on the ratings notices. You would have to advertise on WCHB/"Inside Detroit" for two years to reach the same number of listeners that WWJ reaches in a month. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 1276 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.188.117.68 |
"Bin - Her web site is outdated. Trust me (at least on this) she does not live in Detroit. She has even acknowledged this on her show." Another bogus claim from "Ilovedetroit". She just said a couple of days ago on her show that she lived in Detroit. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 265 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
METRO! I am not lying - SHE DOES NOT LIVE IN DETROIT! She has said before on her show that she moved out of Detroit because she did not feel safe. Mildred Gadddis is a lot of things...but I know she is not saying she lives in Detroit. YOU ARE LYING! YOU ARE TRYING to take things into another circle AGAIN! SHE DOES NOT LIVE IN DETROIT! Get it threw your thick head! Since you are so close to her - call her and ask her on her show. | ||
Amelia Member Username: Amelia Post Number: 360 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 4.229.69.96 |
She probably was evicted and is actually homeless and living in her BMW. | ||
Morena Member Username: Morena Post Number: 181 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.173.147 |
Can someone tell me how MG is allowed by the radio station (WCHB) to get away with what she's been doing? I think it's prefectly okay to have an opinion about things happening in the city. It's another thing to be allowed to go on the attack against the mayor the way she has and completely disrespect him. Does this mean WCHB is FH supporter too? Remembering Robin Hardin years ago ... | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 180 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.170.20 |
Yes, Mildred is a paid consultant to his campaign. She is basically a paid political whore. I really don't get why people think she is so great. Rumor has it that IF helmut-head became mayor that she would be Chief of Staff. She's a hack.  | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 267 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Morena - One thing the McPhail and KK supporters can agree on is our dislike for Ms Gaddis' brand of politics. She is using her air time (there has to be tons of FCC rules being broken) to tout her candidate for mayor (when she cannot even vote) - she is in it for something or he has promised her something? I think Quinn is right. I literally quit listening to her show last week - and I know a lot of other folks are tired of her mouth to. I think her ego is so big that she does not get it! | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 2862 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.252.70.198 |
You MG listeners should note that after all those limited years on the air ..... WCHB now airs a disclaimer for what is stated on her show. Methinks she pissed off somebody and somebody had their lawyer call somebooby in the FCC with some threatening information that may have made 'CHB liable for something. Go figure ..... In essence, that disclaimer throws that claimed "Journalism" schitt out-the-window and places the show more-so in the comedic entertainment genre. Blac-atcha ..... wondering if Tatum Eason is next?? | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 268 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.46 |
Eason is on the McPhail team but I never hear him talking her or Benny up the way Mildred does Freman. In fact I don't think he should - journalist should report the facts. At least that is my opinion. | ||
Ltorivia485 Member Username: Ltorivia485 Post Number: 1128 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 199.74.93.54 |
Tatum Eason is great. Check out his show broadcast if you missed him in the morning at night on Comcast. 88.1 FM, WHPR TV 33 | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 269 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 67.101.190.144 |
Ras- Interesting on the disclaimer...she has probably ticked alot of folks off over the years! I think a journalist should be able to say and report whatever they want - but she uses her "journalistic abilities" to act as a stump person for Hendrix - that is what I don't get? Doesn't the FCC have guidelines for political endorsements? Can you imagine if we had to listen to Oprah everyday saying vote for Bush! | ||
Brian Member Username: Brian Post Number: 2534 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 63.69.106.5 |
Mildred is no journalist. Do you ever see her report a story or just repeat what she says someone told her in confidence. A Journalist uncovers a story. Mildred is fed her stories. A Journalist has never been allowed to say and report whatever they want. They always work for someone. Journalists also have guidlines. Talk show hosts don't have guidlines outside of FCC rules. Mildred isn't the only one to bend those rules in this area. Which is why no one is really complaining. | ||
Jmil Member Username: Jmil Post Number: 951 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.224.234 |
C'mon, she is a talk show host. She is not delivering the nightly news. You guys act like she is Rush Limbaugh. Unless you are Kwame, it ain't that serious. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 273 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Maybe you are right Jmil. If she is a talk show hostess then she is not a realy journalist. | ||
Rasputin Member Username: Rasputin Post Number: 2867 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.252.70.198 |
Tell that to MG, JMil ..... 'cos Dumas is on the kk team!! and doesn't claim to be a journalist, either. Black-atcha ..... roflmbao | ||
65memories Member Username: 65memories Post Number: 151 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.214.181.158 |
http://www.detnow.com/wxyz/nw_ local_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ _15924_3677299,00.html |
