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Detroitman
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http://www.freep.com/news/locw ay/waters14e_20050514.htm
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Merchantgander
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How can she back Hendrix nobody in Detroit knows who he is, does she even know who he is.
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"Waters said Hendrix has the experience and maturity to help lead the city out of its crisis."
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Ilovedetroit
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Waters was put in the race to pull women from McPhail by Hendrix...but since no one knows who she is nor cares it did not work. Well maybe it pulled five votes. Just like KK has Hansen Clark in there to pull votes from Hendrix.
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"Ilovedetroit", using that line of reasoning, what about Kilpatrick having Clarke and Kilpatrick and McPhail basically being one-in-the same? That would make it Kilpatrick-McPhail-Clarke? The power of three.
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Brian
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Waters pulled out of the race because its a longshot for the deputy to win. With his track record and her current job, its better for her to retain what she has instead of banking on one of the deputies many promises.

Is there enough room for him to keep all the promises he has made to people? The deputy would have to raise the employment levels back to the numbers under Archer to fullfil his promises of jobs.
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Brian, the only candidates that I have heard PROMISE jobs are Kilpatrick (obviously, friends and family) and McPhail (to Napoleon).
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Ilovedetroit
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Time will tell...Metro
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Royce
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"Waters pulled out of the race because its a longshot for the deputy to win." - Brian.

Brian, it would make sense to most people on this planet that if Mary Waters believed Hendrix was a longshot to win, she would first of all stay in the race, determinining that if a leading contender dropped out, then she could improve her chances. She might be able to get his votes. Secondly, if she believed he was a longshot to win, then why would she endorse him?

Brian, it amazes me the depths you will go to bad-mouth Freman Hendrix. You actually think that Hendrix is behind Waters dropping out of the mayoral race? If she dropped out and said she was supporting Sharon McPhail, what you would say then? Surely you wouldn't say that McPhail was behind her dropping out, now would you?

I know it must be very painful for you to have to accept the reality that there are people in this city who think Hendrix is the best candidate for mayor. I know it's disappointing that a state representative from Detroit would come out and endorse Hendrix and not McPhail. I know it's disheartening for a candidate for mayor to endorse another candidate for mayor who's not your candidate. I know your asking yourself, "Why didn't she endorse my candidate?"

Brian, if you want to be angry with somebody, then be angry with Mary Waters, not Freman Hendrix. He can't be responsible for her endorsing him because, according to you, he's just the deputy.
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Brian
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Royce, your former deputy has been making promises all over the city in his attempts to get support. This is just another example. Waters endorsement is a matter of a political deal. The real question is why would she endorse anyone after entering and dropping out of the race in the space of a week? She has nothing to gain by this endorsement and everything to lose once the deputy doesn't make it past August. The deputy has nothing to give now except for future promises if he can win the election. BUT he has already promised several people the same positions. Not good.
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Brian
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Did Waters not know how much money it would cost to run for mayor until now? Did she think she could raise a million dollars up until this week? Now she says she wants to remain a legislator and she immediately endorses Helmut.

Was this all a publicity stunt for Helmut's campaign?
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Royce
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Brian, who were promises made to and how would you know that they were made? Please substantiate your claim.
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Ilovedetroit
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What claim do you need Royce? It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that she was put in the race to take votes from McPhail and now after a yawner of a reception from 99% of Detroiters she is pulling out with her five stolen McPhail votes and supporting Hendrix. It was a publicity ploy! We will see the same thing with Hansen Clark for KK at the end of July.
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Royce
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ilovedetroit and other McPhail supporters, if voters were for Waters before she dropped out of the mayoral race, what makes you think they would vote for Hendrix simply because she is now endorsing him. If they voted for her in the first place, then that means they weren't interested in voting for Hendrix, Kilpatrick, McPhail or anyone else, except Mary Waters.

Waters supporters now have to decide on another candidate. Don't think that just because she endorsed Hendrix that her supporters will support him. You McPhail supporters can't predict who they will vote for now, therefore your claim that Waters entering the race was a ploy by Hendrix to take votes from McPhail is, as usual, unsubstantiated. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you McPhail supporters are still grasping for straws.
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Ilovedetroit
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True. They may not go with Hendrix - personally I am not worried about it. I really don't think she brough much to the party. I have honestly not spoken to a single soul who was supporting her MOST don't even know who she is.
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Danny
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Bye Mary Waters. Now go back to being a state rep. You have no principles in Detroit business.