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Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 7:46 pm: |    |
If the City of Detroit election were held today my candidate of choice for Mayor is..... |
Helfy
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Posted From: 64.12.116.195
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2005 - 10:15 pm: | |
Sharon McPhail |
Quinn
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Post Number: 412
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Posted From: 207.145.20.2
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 1:15 am: | |
Sharon McPhail 100% |
Supersport
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Posted From: 69.246.37.236
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 1:26 am: | |
Freeman Hendrix 110% |
Danny
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Posted From: 207.74.111.13
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 1:59 am: | |
HENDRIX, HENDRIX, HENDRIX... |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 207.145.20.2
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 2:07 am: | |
Sharon McPhail |
Merchantgander
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Posted From: 68.42.168.234
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 11:39 am: | |
Hendrix |
Metrodetguy
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Posted From: 207.200.116.134
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 12:52 pm: | |
A repeat of Zulu Warrior's poll...Freman Hendrix |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 69.246.4.46
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 2:52 pm: | |
Sport - I thought you were smarter than that to vote for Hendrix. |
Rberlin
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Posted From: 68.255.82.210
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 6:49 pm: | |
Smart enough to read and understand the topic of the thread. |
Supersport
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Posted From: 69.246.37.236
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 11:28 pm: | |
Ilovedetroit,
If it makes ya feel any better, I'm voting Kwame if it comes down to him or McPhail. |
Bucho
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Posted From: 12.41.112.201
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:06 am: | |
Hendrix... |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 69.246.4.46
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 12:11 pm: | |
I would vote for KK over Hendrix. Hendrix is basically a better looking version of KK...at least with KK we know what we are getting. |
Quinn
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Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 12:48 pm: | |
ah...i'd say KK is better looking that Hendrix. Oh! You mean better looking in terms of substance, etc. (not literally)
Kwame's quote studly. |
Danny
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Posted From: 141.217.173.161
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 7:43 pm: | |
Quinn,
It's not just looks that a candidate will win the election, but the POPULARITY and RACE that determines the political winner. Please vote from your principles. |
Surenowinlife
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Posted From: 67.149.88.137
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 8:22 pm: | |
HENDRIX ALL THE WAY |
Leoqueen
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Posted From: 205.188.116.201
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:21 pm: | |
If it comes down to McPhail vs KK, I will do like I did at the last election with two untenable candidates....I will write in a name. I didnt vote for KK originally, and I will not now. |
65memories
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Posted From: 68.248.54.118
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 9:59 pm: | |
Hendrix |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 69.136.137.134
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:16 am: | |
Oh...by the way
SHARON MCPHAIL |
Jmil
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Posted From: 68.73.202.220
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:20 am: | |
Hmmmmmmm, curious???
Not one KK or Clark vote.
Coincidence? I think not. |
Quinn
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Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 12:26 pm: | |
Coincidental to WHAT jmil? |
Jmil
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Posted From: 68.73.202.220
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 12:57 pm: | |
Quinnly, it does not require a brain surgeon to figure out KK is in trouble. Clark, well not chance in hell. Even on a forum, official unofficial mayoral poll. |
Quinn
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Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 3:48 pm: | |
Ok I'll bite:
Coincedence co·in·ci·dence : A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.
My point was there's nothing secret in this thread. It's not coincidental that this poll shows what the other polls show, it's merely typical.
It doesn't require a brain surgeon to go to dictionary.com either hahahahaha.
OK OK OK...don't get bent out of shape Jmil. |
Fec
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Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 4:07 pm: | |
My hope and prayers for the City and commitment and energy for the candidate is with . . . you guessed it . . . Freman Hendrix! [and he is in my prayers] |
Jmil
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Posted From: 68.73.202.220
| | Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 4:53 pm: | |
"OK OK OK...don't get bent out of shape Jmil."
LOL -
U musta kno I wuz gettin' reddy ta grab da XXXL Heavy Duty can of whup azz. |
Brian
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Posted From: 67.37.83.150
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 12:50 am: | |
While I don't believe Clarke can win, KK was in the same position 4 years ago. Clarke has better name recognition that KK had at that time. The question is money, but if Clarke can carry enough of a vote to make it past August 2 he can win. With three males in the race they each will be pulling hard against each others base. I would consider Clarke over KK or Freman. I don't like either and know that at least Clarke listens to people and does not dismiss what the people want. KK and Freman have both used their power to disenfrachise the people of this community. |
Chub
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Posted From: 69.220.233.164
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 1:41 am: | |
I'll go with Hendrix at this point, but Clark is starting to interest me too. |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 69.246.4.46
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:13 am: | |
Fec - And I have a very strong belief and I am hoping and praying that Hendrix does not make it. He is tbe biggest crook of all...all of you are fooled if you think he is better than KK. The Detroit News just reported the tip of the ice berg today. If he makes it ... I have to move I can't look at that face for four years...he grates on me more than Bush and that is bad! |
Supersport
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Posted From: 69.246.37.236
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:22 am: | |
"I have to move I can't look at that face for four years...he grates on me more than Bush and that is bad!"
Might I suggest Canada? Thats where all the Kerry supporters moved to.....or so they planned. |
Quinn
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Posted From: 68.42.170.20
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:30 am: | |
Well I'm staying no matter who wins.
On another note...CHRIST SUPERSPORT...nearly 8000 posts? Are you kidding? |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 69.136.137.134
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 1:06 pm: | |
I just wanted to say that I have taken a very close look at all of the candidates. While i have not had the privelege to introduce myself on the site, I find it a necessity to do so at this time.
I am a lifetime resident of the city(39 years). I was educated in the DPS(McFarlane,Drew,Cass Tech) I work in the city and for the city. Having lived here for so long I must say that I can remember when Detroit was a beautiful city with tree lined streets and a bustling downtown(at least I thought so). I must say that I am very pleased with the turnaround of the Downtown Detroit area and the rebuilding of the city. It is better than it was 10 years ago.
To be perfectly honest I have contemplated leaving this city on a few ocassions and have always had the "let's just wait and see what happens in the next election!" attitude. I mean its just hard to leave something you love, ya know?
I really do want to be a part off this city's growth, but I have concerns about the future of this city.
I don't just want to vote for a candidate that wants my vote...he/she has to deserve it.
I don't want my tax dollars going to outside interests.
I strongly believe that we need to be in an alliance with our neighbors instead of against them.
I want to live in a safe environment. My wife and I should not be scared to sit on our porch and risk getting shot by some thug or approached by some crackhead prostitute.
These are just a few of my concerns.
Let me just reiterate that I have listen to and heard from each candidate. While none of them is perfect I can only judge by their record and accomplishments. While each candidate can brag and boast about their achievements, i feel that I am entitled to my own opinion on him/her.
Sharon McPhail...If you have read any of my posts, I am sure you know that, thus far, this is my candidate of choice. Having had the pleasure to chat with Sharon and listen to what her plans are, this is the candidate that I am going with in August. She is the only candidate that has a plan for getting Detroit back into its groove. Although I'm not sure if she can accomplish her goals in 4 years, I am very willing to see how much she can do in her fist term.
Hanson, because I don't know much about Mr. Clark, I honestly can't comment on him. I really need to hear more about him. I don't think one month is enough time to get my vote.
Freeman, To be perfectly honest, I just don't like him. I feel that he was very instrumental in the Detroit Schoolboard Takeover and feel that he has no feelings toward the people of Detroit. Personally, I feel that if a City is to prosper its Public Schools have got to adequately educate every single child. I feel as though Freeman has done dirty deeds and that all of the bond money for our students has truly been misappropriated and spent haphazardly. I may even be charging Freeman with "guilty by association" to Dennis Archer. Even though Archer has done good things for the city. He too, was very instrumental in the Takeover. I could write for days about this. I am always open and willing to listen to anyone who has something good to say about him.
While Kwame has done great things for this city, he has made some errors that I hold him accountable for. Mismanagement of my city and the city funds is totally unacceptable. I really think he has forgotten the neighborhoods. The only way Kwame will get my vote is if he is in the runoff with Freeman.
Just my say!!!! |
Jdmdetroit
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Posted From: 170.20.11.59
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 1:29 pm: | |
I'm strongly leaning toward Hendrix.
As far as I am concerned, Kwame has blown his chance. We need adult supervision in the CAY Building - and fast.
I like some of what McPhail has to say. But I also have heard here in the past using very divisive language and that does not sit well with me.
Clarke is a good, sincere man. But I just don't think he has much of a plan.
We need a mayor who is willig and able to step up and be a regional leader and to address Detroit's problems head-on. So far, Hendrix seems the best able to do that. |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 69.136.137.134
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 1:34 pm: | |
Jdm...what divisive language is that? Elaborate please.
I am in agreement with the Mayor needing to step up and be a regional leader.
Please elaborate on Hendrix abilities!!!
Good one on Kwame |
Jdmdetroit
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Posted From: 170.20.11.59
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:06 pm: | |
I can't quote it verbatim. But I recall seeing McPhail on public access TV a couple times using what seemed (to me) an unhelpful "us against them" line regarding the suburbs. And she has been in league with the divisive Call 'Em Out Coalition and their "Sambo" awards. Not helpful at all.
She has changed her tune a bit and even supports regionalism in some cases, which is good. That and her emphasis on increasing the city's population are reasons why I have not written her off entirely.
But then there is the Kay Everett incident, which still bugs me:
www.freep.com/news/locway/counc25_20040325.htm
Hendrix, to me, has good qualifications because he was the day-to-day guy under Archer.
That had to give him a good "executive level" view of how the city works and good hands-on experience. He also strikes me as mature, smart and basically honest.
(Message edited by jdmdetroit on July 08, 2005)
(Message edited by jdmdetroit on July 08, 2005) |
Quinn
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Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:26 pm: | |
JDM...I've heard this story from one of JoAnne's staff members as well as Sharon.
Kay was fighting against this legislation. Sharon wrote it and had tried to get it to a vote for months. It had been delayed and postponed repeatedly. Kay was sick that day (from diabetes related problems) and was on medication and acting irrationaly...telling Sharon she wasn't going to get her vote, etc.
From what I saw from Channel 10, it looked embarrasing to both of them. But when you understand the context under which that snippet of Sharon saying "ohh I'm scared" it makes sense. She was calm and collected for a HALF HOUR of ranting by Kay, and only replied to Kay when kay said, "I'm going to go east side," or "show you east side."
I think what is important to remember here is that Kay was sick and irritable. She wasn't getting her way and Sharon was pissing her off.
"He said people need to be sensitive to the fact that Everett has been ill with kidney problems that require her to receive dialysis. 'And she is still serving the people of this city,' he said. " - quote from the article.
Of note: Kay even voted for the legislation after the fight.
I'm sure Sharon regrets the whole incident, but she is human and we all get to our wits end. She was trying to do something good for the city and was almost thwarted again.
I think it's funny the article mentions a fist fight from the 70's council. Are there any photos of this? Does anyone have any? |
Rosedaleken
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Posted From: 204.38.171.25
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:44 pm: | |
I'm about 52% for Hendrix. Would've liked to vote for Clark, but he can't be taken seriously anymore. Would like to vote for McPhail even more, but anyone who has to be ordered by the court to eliminate a glaring conflict of interest isn't quite ready for the job. So i'll vote Hendrix, and keep my pen ready to sign a recall petition if he kicks one more old lady out of a meeting.
No possible chance for Mayor K. |
Jdmdetroit
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Posted From: 170.20.11.59
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 2:44 pm: | |
Quinn...OK, I can let the Everett thing go. And I can guarantee that if McPhail makes it past the primary, I'll vote for her. |
Quinn
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Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 3:03 pm: | |
AH! How come you can come to a decision and so many people still can't make up their mind?
Here's an example of human nature...I just yelled at Jams because he fustrates me and I'm at MY wits end with him...see ailing golf venture thread.
Anyway, talk to you later. |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 69.246.4.46
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 3:11 pm: | |
Rose- Honestly the entire Ecorse thing is so blown out of the water by the Hendrix/Kilpatrick people that it is laughable. She does not have a no compete clause with the city...meaning that if she wants to do side work she (or anyone else can). A friend of mine is a landscaper at the Detroit Zoo (actually he is a dept head and director)... he has a side business doing work for other zoos. Why? Because he has a no compete. Sharon worked for Ecorse (she had at time a daughter in college who she was paying for)...they offered her a contract to work on items for Ecorse (mostly with their pending receivorship). She accepted the offer and worked on NON DETROIT related items. The only thing Ecorse buys from Detroit is Water - Ecorse has their own attorney to deal with city of Detroit items. There was no conflict. Because she stood up to Kwame on the 30 year casino deals his folks, Derek Miller, threatened her that they would get her for voting against the casino deal. She wanted one year renewable contracts which would have been better for Detroit. They raised a stink about it and it went to court. At the trial the Judge (matter of public record) said "this is probably legal (what she is doing) but since I am only judge in the room I am voting her down"...the judge was a known supporter of Kilpatrick. So really in the end what did she do wrong? Is it wrong to use your skills to make money on something that does not have anything to do with your city council job? She is a city council person not an attorney for the city of Detroit. So if this is your only reason for voting against her then find something else.
BTW - It is still with the state supreme court...almost all attorneys have agreed she needs to fight it. |
Rosedaleken
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Posted From: 204.38.171.25
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 3:21 pm: | |
ILD- nope, not the only reason, but I will admit you're doing a decent job explaining these issues more thoroughly. Guess I can't put the quarter away just yet. |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 69.246.4.46
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 5:21 pm: | |
Rose - I have found that when people complain on issue about Sharon McPhail and it is answered thoroughly they still find something else to have an issue with. The mystique of Sharon McPhail is MUCH bigger than the actual Sharon who is kind, smart, funny, intelligent and very caring person. Who has the best plan for Detroit. The media and the old suburban white guys who control this city (media and Wayne Co machine) DO NOT want her in control. They know that she will take corrupt power from them.
Rose - You seem reasonable - you should come listen to her speak at an event. Are you interested? |
Rosedaleken
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Posted From: 141.211.120.146
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 6:03 pm: | |
I mentioned in another thread that I saw both her and Freman when they came to U of M. Some of the stuff the media is coming up with HAS to be BS, but i'm not convinced it all is. I'll give her another chance though. |
Susanarosa
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Posted From: 208.39.170.77
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 6:12 pm: | |
People don't like McPhail because she's covered in "loser dust" Plain and simple. You can argue and debate it and say how wrong it is until you pass out from exhaustion it's not going to change. |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 69.136.137.134
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 6:29 pm: | |
I am really glad of all the responses in this thread. I guess I will have to take the same approach as I have always taken. Due to the fact that I support McPhail, I must certainly say that I may be a lil biased in my opinions. But I have a mind, and as we all know, minds can be changed instantaneously.
As much as I support regional support of the Big City, I must also dwell on the fact that you have to "take care of home" first. And Sharon and Benny are very concerned with this great city. Mr. Hendrix has not yet exhibited this. He is the Suburbs choice for Mayor as well. As I don't know where his contributions are coming from I am sure a lot of them are from the other side of 8 mile.
I think that it will be the same(or worse) with Hendrix in office as it is with Kwame. Everyone keeps saying its time for a change...Then I agree. Lets put Sharon in there and see what type of change we can get.
Just my say!!! |
Quinn
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Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 6:30 pm: | |
One woman's loser dust is another woman's gold dust.
I could say the same about your candidate susanarosa. |
Bratt
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Posted From: 69.216.107.217
| | Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 7:36 pm: | |
I am voting for Jimi Hendrix...ooops I mean Morgan Freman....oops...what is his name again.....to hell with it!
I'm voting for Sharon...damn! |
Brian
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Posted From: 67.37.83.157
| | Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2005 - 10:34 am: | |
quote:Freeman, To be perfectly honest, I just don't like him. I feel that he was very instrumental in the Detroit Schoolboard Takeover and feel that he has no feelings toward the people of Detroit. Personally, I feel that if a City is to prosper its Public Schools have got to adequately educate every single child. I feel as though Freeman has done dirty deeds and that all of the bond money for our students has truly been misappropriated and spent haphazardly. I may even be charging Freeman with "guilty by association" to Dennis Archer. Even though Archer has done good things for the city. He too, was very instrumental in the Takeover. I could write for days about this. I am always open and willing to listen to anyone who has something good to say about him.
I agree, well said. Very solidly echoed across the city. |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 3:38 pm: | |
Thanks....
It's a shame others are too blind to see this. Tha |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 68.40.226.188
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 3:50 pm: | |
Broken - Welcome to the Sharon McPhail Club we love and admire her to!
We need to work on JDM and Rose some.
JMIL - Come on you know you are voting for McPhail. Remember I saw you at the Gem in your purple shirt and glassed AKA (not Alpha Kappa Alpha you weren't that pretty) Mr Secret Service Man and you looked pleased  |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 3:53 pm: | |
Thanks ild... I wouldn't have it any other way. I made a promise to her camp and I'm bringing my family and friends.... |
Ilovedetroit
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Posted From: 68.40.226.188
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 10:56 pm: | |
Well we had two major campaign events today for McPhail with hundreds of people attending from block clubs. She did a smash up job. We gave out over 150 signs. All this was in the neighborhoods at a grass roots level! It was great! |
Ltorivia485
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Posted From: 69.212.33.157
| | Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 11:17 pm: | |
I will vote for Sharon McPhail.
If she doesn't win the primary, I would rather vote for Hansen Clark over Hendrix and Kwame any day. |
Broken_main
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Posted From: 198.109.44.2
| | Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 3:50 pm: | |
Let's just continue the effort to get people out to support her. It's gonna be one of those "take a friend out to vote" days. I feel as though these polls are very inaccurate. I know that a majority of the voters on my street are supporting Sharon. I continue to spread the word.
Just my say...let's grass roots it people. |