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Ilovedetroit
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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 2:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hendrix is beginning to pull ahead of Kilpatrick in the "Who is More Crooked Poll"...Yeah go ahead and make fun of the Citizen looks like good reporting to me. Of course the Helmut Heads will think of a reason to call it all lies. Interesting story - a good and long read. Where did Hendrix get all the money? Looks like he was DM and Chief of Staff when it all happened...sounds more like a bribe than a loan! WAIT now how did Comerica Park get to name that stadium after them??? Hmmm weren't they the ones behind the LOAN!

http://www.michigancitizen.com /
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Merchantgander
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We should start a Hendrix, Comerica Loan super thread. There have been about 30 or so of them.
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Ilovedetroit
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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 3:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The above story is MUCH more than just the loan. I think you should read it before jumping to conclusions.
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Danny
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That's not enough to convict Hendrix of anything that he exploit something in Detroit. All of his doings are just plain allegations. For in fact The Michigan Citizens, the one who endorsed KING KWAME KILLpatrick is publishing this trash and lies about Hendrix but that community has been newspaper is not going to reach out to over 890,000 Detroiters.
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Ilovedetroit
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The Citizen does not endorse. They report the news. Does is scare you Danny that your idol could be a crook to? Maybe he is just more of a slick crook than Kilpatrick and it takes more to catch him. He hangs out with a ruthless bunch...McNamara, Soave. These guys or their minions will be running Detroit under KING FREMAN.
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Detbest
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Wow ILD, what a great find there. Ton of new information there. How ironic that they recylce this story again with GDRRA mixed in. (Turning off sarcasm meter)

So ILD, Comerica loaned Hendrix and his group money so they could get naming rights to the baseball stadium? Then exactly why would they pay $66 million for those naming rights?

I'm glad we can debate the real issues of this city and this mayoral race.

Kudos to ILD and the Michigan Citizen.
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Ilovedetroit
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It all sounds pretty darn corrupt to me! How could you not read the article and quesion his business practices? Are you all so scared of Kilpatric winning again that you would overlook Hendrix's VERY questionable business practices?
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The_aram
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Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"How could you not read the article and quesion his business practices?"

How could you read the article and take the Michigan Citizen seriously?
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Danny
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Ilovedetroit,

The Michigan Citizen has just put a little money in to KILLpatrick campaign. That's from a latest tip from one of mole from the Street Prophets.
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Ilovedetroit
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Rumor and Innuendo Danny!

Winner
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Gistok
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The Michigan Citizen...... remember this title earlier this year.....

"ARCHER JR. GETS $70 MILLION GM CONTRACT/GM LAYS OFF 25,000".

That rag is pure propoganda!
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Ilovedetroit
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Well he just bought a HUGE mansion in off the golf course next to a friend of mines so he must have got some big contract from someone. He is also completely gutting the house and told her he is putting 500k into it? Good for him! Wish I could have married him haha
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Detbest
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ILD, in case you missed it. No one is questioning the contract Archer, Jr. got from GM. It's the MI Citizen's unprofessional headline that implies that somehow there is a connection between DA Jr.'s legitimate business dealings and GM's layoffs of 25,000 workers. You know, instead of reporting the news twist it so that it fits into their own seperate agenda.

On second thought, based on some of your twisting of other headlines and news stories you probably see nothing wrong with it. But, that neither here no there. As you said "good for him".

Anyways, best wishes to you and KK-your candidate.
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Ilovedetroit
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Detbest - And best wishes to you.
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Bratt
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I am still an undecided and I just sit back and read everyone's posts and the main problem that I have is that this is a huge election everyone! Hello! Dirt is going to come out on everyone. But every time dirt comes out on Hendrix...it's all lies....it's not true..prove it. And when dirt comes out on Big Pimpin"...everyone says..oh yeah.. I believe it.

Come on now....open your damn eyes! Quit being ignorant and blinded. Once the decision is made, and the election is over...that's it. You get what you pay for. Start thinking for yourselves...BIG DUH!!!
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Fnemecek
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ILD:
Where's the Michigan Citizen article about cops not showing up when Detroiters call 9-1-1?

Seriously, that's a much bigger story than any Comerica loans or condo flipping in Florida.
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Brian
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No one questions the 'unprofessional' headlines from other news papers. But then Helmut supporters do not see the world as objective. Either you are with them or they work to destroy you.

Fnemecek, I would have thought you would realize by now that the cops just don't like you or your friends. They show up at everyone elses home. Or maybe its just Helmut supporters they ignore. That must be a new KK plan.
Your neighborhood must be the one that makes Detroit's crime stats look bad. Most violent crime in Detroit is at its lowest point in decades. Even lower than the Archer years. Imagine that.
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Danny
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Ilovedetroit,

Rumors and Innuendo flies.

Although this sign can use some ghetto art.




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Ilovedetroit
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Frnemeck - Ok you are a smart guy. Can't you find another reason to hate KK other than the cops not showing up for a change? Come on what the hell will Freman do? Is he going to post one of mini-cam cameras in front of your house?
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Michigansheik
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the citizen did endorse kk.
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1honey
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They sure did, especially when KK pumped that money into the citizen.

I can't wait until NOVEMBER 8th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quinn
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Fnemecek
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quote:

Most violent crime in Detroit is at its lowest point in decades.



Yeah, it's real easy to lower the crime stats when you stop counting crime.

When a domestic dispute in my neighborhood turned violent, and someone tried repeatedly running over a pregnant woman, it never showed up in the crime stats because when I called 9-1-1 I was told that there were no officers available.

If you want a far more accurate depiction of crime in Detroit, take a look at the volumne of calls to 9-1-1.

According to records from the Detroit Police Department, that were subsequently published in the Detroit Free Press, citizen calls to 9-1-1 have almost doubled since Kilpatrick has taken office.

I really don't think those folks are calling in looking for lottery numbers.
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Drm
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quote:

How could you not read the article and quesion his business practices?


Because it's full of non-sensical statements like this:

quote:

The Comerica loan was the type that permited the borrowers to add to the collateral as time passes while enjoying the money up front.


This is wrong, as I have explained numerous times.
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Fnemecek
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quote:

Fnemecek - Ok you are a smart guy. Can't you find another reason to hate KK other than the cops not showing up for a change?



Oh, I can probably think of a dozen reasons: the streetlight in front of my house that's been out for 2 weeks, a huge sinkhole in the street a few houses up or the fact that I can't get anyone to answer the phone at 3-1-1 when I call to report these problems.

But you know what?

None of those things really matter when the cops don't show up.

I can drive around the sinkhole. My neighbors and I can keep our porchlights on; illuminating the area enough to compensate for the lost streetlight.

But what can we do about the cops not showing up?

We have neither the training, the equipment nor the authority to respond properly to a violent or drug-related crime. For that, we need cops.

quote:

Come on what the hell will Freman do?



For starters, he'll spend that $743,000 on hiring police officers who will be assigned to the narcotics and gang units instead of spending it on a tank.

That's enough to hire more than a dozen officers and will make a much bigger impact on this city than any "urban assault vehicle" ever will.
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Ilovedetroit
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Ok - Frnemcek I will accept your comments I don't agree that Freman's plan is the bomb...but I get where you are coming from. With regards to the tank it is standard issue for a city of our size to have a vehicle like that...do I think they could wait to buy it YES...should it be purchased eventually YES.
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Jams
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ILD
Please note the TACOM/Army will give us one for FREE.
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Ilovedetroit
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Cool! Are you going to put your helmet on ala Michael Dukakis and drive it here Jams :-)
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Bindetroit
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FH, as a mayoral appointee, serves on the GDRRA so is thus directly and personally responsible for its day-to-day operations and management? Really? That would be news to its Director, Office Manager, Operations Manager, and numerous other staffers.

Even ild's favorite unprofessional embarassment to journalists everywhere admits that all they have is innuendo: "With the Hendrix case, no visible conflict of interest is ... clear." Why's that? Because their illogical connecting of disparate dots resembles only their scattershot blasting away at the reputations and good names of successful local businessmen. (The MC's argument seems to be that "they made money therefore they are racist crooked rat bastards.")At least the National Enquirer is sometimes funny (BRITNEY SELLS BABY FOR $6M! BUSH CAUGHT IN POT SCANDAL! SECONDHAND FAT KILLS!).
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Gistok
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Bindetroit, you are absolutely correct about the MC. Ever since Don Barden lost out on his "entitlement" to a Detroit casino bid, these folks have had an ax to grind against Archer and Hendrix. And not to leave it there, they besmirch their families as well. Hearsay, halftruths and innuendos are the main staple to news at the MC. And they add to the mix real life stories or struggles, to try and make the other crap appear legit.

This was the same propoganda that the Nazi's used in Germany leading up to WWII. In their newspapers they portrayed the Jews as the evil ones. And to prove that they were telling the truth, they sprinkled their newspapers with real stories about child care, and other popular social issues. The under-educated German masses bought this stuff up. It had to be the truth... that's what it said in the Nazi inspired newspapers. Only the educated and intillectual German's saw thru the charade, but they were exiled and killed.

I know, because both my parents lived thru the horrors of Nazi Germany, and they believed that crap. They weren't stupid... they were just told what they wanted to hear and were brainwashed.

Some of this brainwashing is still going on today....
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Brian
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quote:

Yeah, it's real easy to lower the crime stats when you stop counting crime.



IS this how Helmut plans to deal with the crime issue, lie?

The volume of calls has not increased any more than any other year since before Archer was mayor. Percentage wise if you look at the entire number of calls the numbers are going lower. Less folks are calling 911 for non-emergencies. Those were always the bulk of the calls, especially calls for an ambulance. The DPD gets the lowest percentage of calls to 911.
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Fnemecek
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quote:

The volume of calls has not increased any more than any other year since before Archer was mayor.



Please spend some time talking to the DPD - or reading the newspapers. Those figures were published for a reason.
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Brian
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You get your figures from the news who has endorsed Helmut or those officers on Helmut's campaign team? Why not just get the numbers from the source, they are published. You don't need to get them third hand and by word of mouth.
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Fnemecek
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Brian:
The Detroit Police Department has not endorsed Helmut Freman Hendrix for Mayor nor have they endorsed anyone else. As I said above, they are my source.

If you feel that DPD's figures are inaccurate, you are welcome to post your own sources.