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Huggybear
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Anyone else get this odd half-page glossy flyer from "Citizens Concerned for the Future of the City of Detroit?"

It apparenty supports Kilpatrick but not very well - Any flyer that takes the reader more than 30 seconds to figure out who it is supporting is an ineffective piece of campaigning. This is the text (the parentheticals are in the original):

Kwame Kilpatrik Endorsed By
Rev. Wendell Anthony (Detroit NAACP)
Black Slate
Council of Baptist Pastors
Michigan Chronicle
Dr. Claude Young
Rev. Al Sharpton

Freman Hendrix
Endorsed by
L. Brooks Patterson (Oakland County Executive)
Suburbanites
Detroit Free Press
Detroit News
Benny Napoleon
Jack Brandenberg (Leader of Det. Water Dept. Takeover)

After seeing the debate last night and how KK invoked Coleman Young, I am pretty sure this was cooked up by the KK campaign itself. Smells a lot like desperation.
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quote:

Smells a lot like desperation.



Kilpatrick is down 10+ pts. in the polls with less than 3 weeks to go and he has less money at his disposal that Hendrix does.

Oh, and to answer the question of "What would Coleman do?" let me just add that in the roughly 20 years that Coleman A. Young was Mayor of Detroit, I never once had a problem getting a cop to show up when I called 9-1-1.

What would Coleman do?
His job.

What has Kilpatrick done?
Everything else.
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I must have not been watching the news the day that suburbanites issued their collective official endorsement of Freman Hendrix. Notice how they leave off some of Hendrix's other endorsements, such as Detroit's police officers, Detroit's fire fighters and EMS, Detroit's teachers, Metro Times, etc.
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Fnemecek
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Yes, and by the way, L. Brooks Patterson hasn't endorsed anyone in the race.

Oh, and if the suburbanites have endorsed anyone it would be the guy they've given the bulk of their money to: Kwame "Who Needs Cops?" Kilpatrick.
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Metrodetguy
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CAY WOULD NOT print up and distribute lame flyers.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Who cares what Coleman Young would do. I want to know what Kwame and Hendrix are going to do, and I am tired of hearing about CAY. Am I the only one out here that doesnt think he was a God, and needs to be brought up every 5 seconds?

I thought it was lame that KK kept quoting CAY, and i thought it was lame the Hendrix put CAY on a pedestal in his response as well....ugh, talk about TODAY AND TOMORROW during the debates, not about the 20 years CAY lead the city.
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Lilpup
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What would Coleman do? Kick Kwame's ass
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Fnemecek
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LOL
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Danny
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What whould Coleman Do? He tells every white-folks and criminals to hit 8 Mile. But for KING KWAME while he was mayor he told suburbanites to stay in 8 mile and leave Detroit to the black-folks. One thing that he did to address the debate that he quoted from CAY that the future of the city belongs to all of us. Hendrix step in and he said that yes the future of Detroit belongs to us but Detroit is not living in the Coleman Young era anyone. He is telling Detroiters to get out from your houses, stop hiding inside the walls of demarcation and xenophobia and lets build bridges between the Detroit and suburbs so our children in the future could live in time where there's little or no ethnic or urban problems.

(Message edited by danny on October 19, 2005)
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Lets compare the two :

Coleman Alexander Young (1918–1997) served as mayor of Detroit, Michigan from 1974 to 1994.

Young was born in 1918 in Tuscaloosa, Alabama to Coleman Young and Ida Reese Jones. His family moved to Detroit in 1923, where he graduated from Eastern High School. He worked for Ford Motor Company, from which he was shortly blacklisted for involvement in labor and civil rights activism. He later worked for the United States Postal Service. During the second World War, he served in the 477th Medium-Bomber Group (Tuskegee Airmen) of the U. S. Army Air Corps as a bombardier and navigator. As a lieutenant in the 477th, he played a role in the Freeman Field Mutiny in which 162 African-American officers were arrested for resisting segregation at a base near Seymour, Indiana in 1945.

Young's involvement in progressive and dissident organizations including the Progressive Party, the AFL-CIO, and the National Negro Labor Council made him powerful enemies, including the FBI and HUAC, where he refused to testify. He protested segregation in the Army, racial discrimination in the UAW. In 1948 Young supported Progressive Party presidential candidate Henry A. Wallace. He later called that a major mistake.

In 1960, he was elected as a delegate to help draft Michigan's new State Constitution. In 1964 he was elected to the Michigan State Senate, where his most significant legislation was a law requiring arbitration in disputes between public sector unions and municipalities. In 1973, Young narrowly defeated Police Commissioner John F. Nichols (who would later become Oakland County Sheriff) to become Detroit's first African American mayor. He won the four subsequent terms by very wide margins.

His administration was controversial, and he found himself the subject of continued FBI scrutiny amid allegations of contract kickbacks, although no evidence was ever found. He was criticized for his confrontational style toward suburban interests and the apparent diversion of city resources to downtown Detroit from other neighborhoods. Coleman Young was generally popular with the inhabitants of the city proper, while generally disliked by those of the suburbs.

Young was a tireless advocate for federal funding for Detroit construction projects, and his administration saw the completion of the Renaissance Center, Detroit People Mover, Joe Louis Arena and several other Detroit landmarks. He also negotiated with General Motors to build its new "Poletown" plant at the site of the former Dodge Main plant. This was very controversial, as the new plant was larger than the old one and the deal involved many evictions via eminent domain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C oleman_Young

Kwame M. Kilpatrick (born June 8, 1970) is the Mayor of Detroit, Michigan. Elected at age 31, he is the youngest mayor in the history of Detroit, as well as the youngest current mayor of any major U.S. city. Kilpatrick briefly addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He has been nicknamed (somewhat derisively) "America's First Hip-Hop Mayor", or as "Big Diamond" due to the large gem in his left ear, which he removed to campaign and replaced after winning the election.

Prior to defeating City Council President Gil Hill in the 2001 mayoral election, Kilpatrick served as a Democratic member of the Michigan State House of Representatives, becoming the first African American to lead any party in the Michigan Legislature.

Kilpatrick is a lifelong resident of the city of Detroit and attended Pelham Middle School and Cass Technical High School. He earned a teaching certification and a Bachelor's of Science in political science from Florida A&M University, where he was also captain of the football team. He earned a Juris Doctorate from the Detroit College of Law at Michigan State University. His mother, U.S. Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, represents Michigan's 13th District in the United States House of Representatives. His father, Bernard Kilpatrick, served as Chief of Staff to then-Wayne County Executive Ed McNamara.

In early 2005, the Detroit media began reporting on the issue of Mayor Kilpatrick's overspending of city funds. One example is a $25,000 lease on a new Lincoln Navigator which Kilpatrick initially disavowed any knowledge of but that eventually he admitted was for his wife.

By April 2005, Kilpatrick's approval rating in Detroit was sharply declining due to the scandals and the perceived lack of improvement in the city. As a result, the April 17, 2005 issue of Time Magazine listed him as one of the three worst big-city mayors in the United States.[1][2] The other two mentioned in the article are Dick Murphy of San Diego and John F. Street of Philadelphia.

In May 2005, the Detroit Free Press reported that over the first 33 months of his term, Kilpatrick has charged over $210,000 on his city-issued credit card for travel, meals, and entertainment. Kilpatrick has also been under scrutiny for an allegedly inappropriate party at the mayoral mansion. [3]

In June 2005, Kilpatrick threatened to cancel the International Freedom Festival if the council overrode his veto of the council's budget plan. City Council did indeed override Kilpatrick's veto, and the mayor was forced to back down from his threat.

In a poll released in June 2005, Kilpatrick is trailing in support for the non-partisan primary for mayor, with 27% support as opposed to former Detroit deputy mayor Freman Hendrix's 39% support. He leads city councilwoman Sharon McPhail who has only 16% support.[4]

The results of the August 2 primary were very discouraging for the Kilpatrick campaign. Hendrix led Kilpatrick by double digits as the two headed to the November general election. With his dismal primary returns, Kilpatrick became the first mayor of Detroit since 1947 to place second in the mayoral primary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K wame_Kilpatrick
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BILL MCGRAW: Young's presence felt in Detroit mayor's race

October 19, 2005


BY BILL McGRAW
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

Coleman Young has become a player in this year's Detroit mayoral campaign. It's quite an accomplishment when you think about it. He has been dead for nearly eight years.

That has not stopped Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick from adopting Young as a sort of a posthumous mentor and mentioning his name a lot.

On Friday, Kilpatrick defended himself from charges of malfeasance in office by noting some people said Young was corrupt, "but when he died, we found out all he had was his 401(k) plan from his job."

Monday night, after Kilpatrick had said "Coleman Young" for the third time during the mayoral debate, challenger Freman Hendrix told Kilpatrick to stop.

Said Hendrix: "Mayor Young was a fighter for the little people in this city. Mayor Young never lived lavishly. Mayor Young fought tooth and nail for the workers in the city of Detroit. So let's let his legacy rest and let's stop invoking his name as though you've got something in common with him."

Kilpatrick said Tuesday Hendrix's put-down "seemed pretty rehearsed" as if "he practiced it several times" while preparing for the debate. The mayor said Young's popularity in Detroit is so high that Hendrix "hears people out here talking about that Kwame could be the next Coleman. And he doesn't like it."

Kilpatrick said he wanted to be mayor of Detroit since he met Young as a grade school student. "He's my hero," the mayor said. "He's an incredible figure in modern political history."In death, as in life, Young can be a controversial figure.

http://www.freep.com/news/metr o/journal19e_20051019.htm
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Danny
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How Coleman Young became mayor of Detroit?
Let's look at the Demographics:

In 1973, Detroit's white population was about 720,000 people (46%) but white flight to the suburbantopia was acclerating. And Detroit's black population was 660,000 about (44,2%). Close numbers is'n it. Since Coleman Young has tremendous support in most local black churches, the AFL-CIO and 85% of black communities. Only he needs is that 9% of the white Detroit vote to win. Instead he have up to 10% of the white Detroit vote. And He was elected the first black mayor of Detroit. Black-folks in Detroit were cheering YAYYYYY!!!!!! DETROIT IS OURS TO CONTROL FOREVER! and the white-folks in Detroit who mostly supported Nichols cried boo hoo! screw Coleman Young and quickly moved away for they feared that once the black-folks have Detroit it would be the end of White control until this day.

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And since then black folks have been fleeing Kilpatrick's Detroit even faster than the white folks did in the 1970s. Almost 1,000 of them leave every day, according to some estimates.

Black folks aren't afraid of black control. They're upset with the high taxes and almost non-existant city services that we have under Kilpatrick.

This thread started out as a conversation about my former boss, the late Coleman A. Young.

Mayor Young was once asked what he thought about one of the biggest racists around, Orville Hubbard - then Mayor of Dearborn.

Mayor Young's response was that he greatly admired the man because he had done some great things for his contituents.

Mayor Young knew that a large part of being an elected leader was taking care of the people who put you in office.

We put Kwame Kilpatrick into office, but what has he done for us?

Even on their worst day, Coleman Young and Dennis Archer were light years ahead of taking care of Detroiters. Neither of them were perfect, but they were a lot better than Kilpatrick. If you doubt me, pick up your phone and call 9-1-1. See for yourself how bad the response time is.